Wong & Owens Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 Smith will implement that cover 2 defense, and my guess is he'll turn Alex Brown into a Leonard Little type of pass rusher. But if he can get Fairchild or Linehan as an OC, then I can easily see da Bears makin da playoffs next year IF they can get sum O-Line help and another quality CB. Alex Brown has nowhere near Leonard Little speed to be that type of pass rusher. I think that I agree it really depends on who the coordinators are. If it's Fairchild or Linehan, then I like it because both those guys have shown that they can design offenses that can move the ball and score against NFL defenses. Shoop's system wouldn't have worked with any personnel--I've seen high school offenses that created more confusion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 Anyone catch the news conference today??? I just wondered what Lovie had to say. Specifically about the Coordinators. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 Anyone catch the news conference today??? I just wondered what Lovie had to say. Specifically about the Coordinators. The Trib said this morning that there was a good chance that he would try to keep Blache as the D man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be Good Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 NOT a bad move by the Bears, Lovie has improved the Rams defense over the last 3 years, the Rams promblems over the past 3 years has been Mr. Martz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 Ill be f***ing angrey if that happens. I hate Blache. Annyoing loud mouth who dosent know when to shut his trap. It's a good thing your opinion doesn't actually count in the bears descision making then... Blache is a master a motivator... his players LOVE him... They would run through a wall for the guy. I don't know if he presents like a Head coach, with the crooked hat, and eccentric colloquialisms. But he is among the best DC's in the league. That being said I would have liked to see the bears get more pressure. But if you don't have the guys to create pressure, like the bears, you're not going to have sucess in the NFL. Just think how many more tackles/sacks urlacher would have had if Washington was still with the club. I think a telling thing about Blache's chances is that the bears didn't grant permission for him to talk to anyone until Monday, after the Minnesota DC job was filled, and likely after JA had talked to Lovie about the DC job. He interviewed in Pittsburgh, and could interview in KC and Buffalo by the end of the week. I don't really think the DC is a big deal with Lovie here... We need a bright Offensive mind. One who establishes O-line continuity, guides Rex through his first season as a starter, throws the ball 7 yards on 3rd&5, not 3 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted January 15, 2004 Share Posted January 15, 2004 I thought the News conference was at Noon. I guess it's not until two.... Watch it online (requires realplayer)... just click the link @ 2PM I'm assuming, right now it say tune in during broadcast hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Smith just doesn't impress me. The ram's defense hasn't been stellar, but hey....what do i know? As an FYI... The Rams defense led the league in turnovers forced and had about twice as many sacks as the Bears defense did. If he can be a coach that can control time well, the Bears IMO, will win. I personally think that the two biggest factors in a winning team from a losing team is time of possession and turnovers. If you control the ball most of the game and have a + turnover rating, you'll win most of the time, I don't care who is on your team. The only time that theory does not work out is when Peyton Manning goes 30-50 for 400 yards, 5 TD's and 4 INT's, because the way their offense just goes and does not stop, you'll have the ball more then them almost every game because of their quick strike ability, sort of like their game against Denver in the playoffs. I am quite sure Denver won the time of possession battle, but they got smoked because they do not have the quick strike ability that the Colts do....no team does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 As an FYI... The Rams defense led the league in turnovers forced and had about twice as many sacks as the Bears defense did. If he can be a coach that can control time well, the Bears IMO, will win. I personally think that the two biggest factors in a winning team from a losing team is time of possession and turnovers. If you control the ball most of the game and have a + turnover rating, you'll win most of the time, I don't care who is on your team. The only time that theory does not work out is when Peyton Manning goes 30-50 for 400 yards, 5 TD's and 4 INT's, because the way their offense just goes and does not stop, you'll have the ball more then them almost every game because of their quick strike ability, sort of like their game against Denver in the playoffs. I am quite sure Denver won the time of possession battle, but they got smoked because they do not have the quick strike ability that the Colts do....no team does. do you mean time of possession or clock management..that was dickie's undoing...he managed the clock like he was the head coach of the other team...we always left just enough time to get beat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 do you mean time of possession or clock management..that was dickie's undoing...he managed the clock like he was the head coach of the other team...we always left just enough time to get beat Both, but I'd worry more about clock management. If I were the coach of a football team(which I am not), the 3 things I would say you need in order to succeed are winning the turnover battle, clock management, and time of possession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Ill be f***ing angrey if that happens. I hate Blache. Annyoing loud mouth who dosent know when to shut his trap. We said that about Buddy Ryan by 1987 I was only able to follow them on paper, not too many chances on national TV. I thought injuries were more the problem. AMazing how quickly the Coach of the Year becomes the Scapegoat of the Moment. The KIng is Dead! Long live the King! New season. New problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Interesting to note, while everyone gets all excited about Lovie Smith, of the 6 teams that have hired coaches so far, Lovie Smith is going to make the smallest salary of any of them. As a matter of a fact his annual salary of $1.35 million per year, is basically 1/4th of the $5.7 million that Joe Gibbs is going to make. Now the hiring makes complete sense, or is that cents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Was just watching NFL live. He said we will be running something similar to St. Louis, with some of KC's offense mixed in. I really like what i hear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Interesting to note, while everyone gets all excited about Lovie Smith, of the 6 teams that have hired coaches so far, Lovie Smith is going to make the smallest salary of any of them. As a matter of a fact his annual salary of $1.35 million per year, is basically 1/4th of the $5.7 million that Joe Gibbs is going to make. Now the hiring makes complete sense, or is that cents? The bears aren't the cheapo's of the league... Lovie is still making more than the Vikes head coach(tice), and it's newly hired OC (Cottrel - who was making more than tice last year), COMBINED. Plus, according to JA in the press conference yesterday, the main reason Saban is not the bears coach was not money, but control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted January 16, 2004 Share Posted January 16, 2004 Both, but I'd worry more about clock management. If I were the coach of a football team(which I am not), the 3 things I would say you need in order to succeed are winning the turnover battle, clock management, and time of possession. actually i am a football coach..coach jr high ball here in elk grove and id agree 100% with what you said...give me those three catagories in that order and ill gaurentee a win about 90% of the time... clock management is so underrated and mis-understood...steve marriuci , who i think is the best ever a managing the clock has a theory that from the opening kick off one team should always be in a hurry up while the other team should always be in a slow down...he endorsed a book on clock management thats 264 pages long that covers every possible situation on clock management..its one of the best books ive ever read on football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 The Bears have hired Shea as the offensive coordinator but the Bucs have denied giving hte Bears permission to hire Marinelli as the defensive coordinator, which means Laramie or something along those lines will likely be the next DC of the Bears. Marineli is very upset about not getting the job because he is very very close friends with Lovie Smith and he thought he and the Bucs had an agreement that he could leave to become Smith's DC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 actually i am a football coach..coach jr high ball here in elk grove and id agree 100% with what you said...give me those three catagories in that order and ill gaurentee a win about 90% of the time... clock management is so underrated and mis-understood...steve marriuci , who i think is the best ever a managing the clock has a theory that from the opening kick off one team should always be in a hurry up while the other team should always be in a slow down...he endorsed a book on clock management thats 264 pages long that covers every possible situation on clock management..its one of the best books ive ever read on football I knew you were a football coach and that you love the single wing offense IIRC. To me, winning the close games is determined by those 3. However, in blowouts, or games that are not totally lost but have a shot, I would change it a little. If my team is losing by say 24 points going into the second half, I'm worrying about forcing turnovers and clock management. Score with some consistency, and score relatively quickly. You score 3 touchdowns and kick to the other team with 6-8 minutes left in the game while allowing no points, and you've done your job. If there is more time then that left, you have done a job better then you really needed. If my team is the one blowing the other out, I'm worrying more about time of possession and clock management and less about getting turnovers, because if you try to get turnovers, you are more prone to missing tackles or giving up big plays, and scores can come rather quickly and you can be down within a quarter The one constant in all of that is clock management, and like you said, it is very underrated. More teams should worry about clock management IMO, then they should about other things, like a great passing game or an incredibly good defense. BTW, do you remember what the name of the book is that Mariucci endorsed? Maybe it's something I'd consider reading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 i believe the title is football clock management..its by a guy named john t reed you can order it directly from his website at www.johntreed.com (i think thats the adress if not then let me know and ill find the right one - i have it here somewhere)..he wrote some other books on youth football that are real good..when marriucci read his book he was so impressed that he got him to speak at the NFL coaches convention on the subject...can you imagine that..a youth football coaching like 8 and 9 year olds being asked to talk to all the NFL coaches about football??...id crap in my pants.. but this guy is statistican major from westpoint...he's got freaking statistics on everything..its impressive how organized this guy is...an NFL team would be smart to hire him just organize all their daily activities.. you were right on the single wing...love that offense..its so versitile..power running , misdirection , passing...i saw barrington high school beat conant with the single wing in the 8A playoffs..though they call it a 2b slot...it is a version of the single wing.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 Interesting to note, while everyone gets all excited about Lovie Smith, of the 6 teams that have hired coaches so far, Lovie Smith is going to make the smallest salary of any of them. As a matter of a fact his annual salary of $1.35 million per year, is basically 1/4th of the $5.7 million that Joe Gibbs is going to make. Now the hiring makes complete sense, or is that cents? I vote for the latter. The cynic in me says they made a head fake at Saban to make it look like they were going to do something substantive then took the cheap way out like they were going to do all along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 I think Angelo and Saban had some philosophical differences that couldn't be worked out. Like ... Who's da boss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted January 17, 2004 Share Posted January 17, 2004 I think Angelo and Saban had some philosophical differences that couldn't be worked out. Like ... Who's da boss? that would be tony danza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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