Gene Honda Civic Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I will NOT be posting on this thread any longer! People who's minds are closed are not going to be educated or swayed here, and I am not going to waste anymore time trying. As I suggested to Flash Tizzle, a few pages ago...if you are interested in reading (fact-based) articles and visiting great websites on the subject, email me ([email protected]). If not, no big deal. Take care all!!! I, for one, will be emailing I4E. He obvoisly has all the answers and a wilingness to post them. I will actually post any of the emails he gives me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I want to leave this thread with this quote: "...You declare, my friend: that you do not hate the Jews, you are merely 'anti-Zionist'. And I say, let the truth ring forth from the high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of G-d's green earth: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews--this is G-d's own truth." "Anti-Semitism, the hatred of Jewish people, has been and remains a blot on the soul of mankind. In this we are in full agreement. So know also this: anti_zionist is inherently anti-Semitic, and ever will be so." Martin Luther King Jr. on Zionism Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I, for one, will be emailing I4E. He obvoisly has all the answers and a wilingness to post them. I will actually post any of the emails he gives me. I don't claim to have all the answers...never did. But I do know where you can find 'em! Now...leave me alone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I want to leave this thread with this quote: "...You declare, my friend: that you do not hate the Jews, you are merely 'anti-Zionist'. And I say, let the truth ring forth from the high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of G-d's green earth: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews--this is G-d's own truth." "Anti-Semitism, the hatred of Jewish people, has been and remains a blot on the soul of mankind. In this we are in full agreement. So know also this: anti_zionist is inherently anti-Semitic, and ever will be so." Martin Luther King Jr. on Zionism What did MLK say about violence against anyone? What did MLK say about races living together in peace? What did MLK say about economic sanctions based solely on race? Once again it is hypocratical to quote someone by choosing such a narrow piece of his words, and ignore all of the rest of his teachings that contradict everything you stand for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Hose Jon Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I want to leave this thread with this quote: "...You declare, my friend: that you do not hate the Jews, you are merely 'anti-Zionist'. And I say, let the truth ring forth from the high mountain tops, let it echo through the valleys of G-d's green earth: When people criticize Zionism, they mean Jews--this is G-d's own truth." "Anti-Semitism, the hatred of Jewish people, has been and remains a blot on the soul of mankind. In this we are in full agreement. So know also this: anti_zionist is inherently anti-Semitic, and ever will be so." Martin Luther King Jr. on Zionism I want to leave this thread with this quote: So know also this: anti_zionist is inherently anti-Semitic, and ever will be so." Martin Luther King Jr. on Zionism And hitler was fervently against the death penalty( for germans) Sometimes bad people can be right at times And good people can be wrong at times As for the thread, lets take a little while off and return in a few weeks Now for some emoticons :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 What about Robert Kilroy-Silk, a former Parlamenteer, being censored by BBC and investigated for racial conflict agitation saying that Arabs/Muslims have not contributed to the world in any meaningful way, are all uneducated Jew-hating suicide-bombing limb-amputators and women oppressors.......all the while professor Tom Polin, a poet who charges exorbitant fees for speaking in Harvard among other venues, gave an inteview to an Egyptian paper Al-Akhram where he wasted no time: "[Jews living in Gaza, Samaria and Judea] are Nazis who should be executed.....[American expats living in Irael] are fascist racists, I have nothing but disgust toward them. Israel should have never been created in the first place" No problem, he still hosts an arts show on BBC. Double standard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 What about Robert Kilroy-Silk, a former Parlamenteer, being censored by BBC and investigated for racial saying that Arabs/Muslims have not contributed to the world in any meaningful way, are all uneducated Jew-hating suicide-bombing limb-amputators and women oppressors.......all the while professor Tom Polin, a poet who charges exorbitant fees for speaking in Harvard among other venues, gave an inteview to an Egyptian paper Al-Akhram where he wasted no time: "[Jews living in Gaza, Samaria and Judea] are Nazis who should be executed.....[American expats living in Irael] are fascist racists, I have nothing but disgust toward them. Israel should have never been created in the first place" No problem, he still hosts an arts show on BBC. Double standard? the BBC???..that figures this whole issue is so out of hand..one thing i do know...israel is a speck on the arab map...yet it is the central focus of the entire world...its like a drama queen that has to be the center of attention and anyone who has the misfortune of coming in contact with her has to pay the price of being in the center of her world...its just crazy to keep fighting over this little speck of land like this..its gone on for so long now that i dont think people on either side really know what the hell they are fighting anymore...generations are being raised to hate each other...i sure dont have the answers here (who does??) but there has to be a way where both sides can exist atleast somewhat peacefully..its gonna have to happen that way because both sides call the land home and at different points in history both sides did have claim to it..both sides fail to recognize that the other side has no where else to call home should they be forced to leave...so both sides will fight to the death...what's that oing to accomplish??? ive always supported israel and believe it is right to support them now..but there has to be a better effort to form some kind of a peace overthere...on both sides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 If you knew murderers were coming, would you not use the best means necessary to stop them? Wouldn't that be easy. Figure out who the murders are before they murder and get rid of them. That's the problem in the US we believe in innocent until proven guilty. Didn't a suburb try and block their roads that led into the city and create cul de sacs? I forget which suburb tried it? Perhaps Evanston. My guess it was in the early 70s. I remember a whole lot of retoric about it being discriminatory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 I will NOT be posting on this thread any longer! People who's minds are closed are not going to be educated or swayed here, and I am not going to waste anymore time trying. ROTFLMAO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Thats strike two for you buddy. First you make a premature statment blasting Nuke for suggesting that Israelis place electric currents on their fences.......even though the article cleary stated chain linked fences were in place. Now you seem to believe my statement was directed towards the 80% figure.....which it isn't Go back couple pages and check I4E post and my reply. He was saying that from what he read Muslims don't care about life/death and infact look forward to it. I SAID, in reply to that, I don't need to read anything to come up with that conclusion. It has nothing to do with my 80% figure Oh, I should of been more wise then to say 80% of muslims support terrorism. What sounds better is 80% of muslims support a Palestinian state. And, everybody knows how Palestinians intend to recieve their state;from TERRORISM. You support Palestine.....you support terrorism. (hows that for an asenine statement) Israel deserves to defend itself from Palestinian attacks and if terrorists are hiding among Palestinian supporters terrorists they should have their homes demolished. But Palestine don't mind that because when Israel kills a few "innocent" citizens stations like Al-Jazeera will jump all over it and show the world of Isreals oppresion. Ultimately, show me evidence of the PLO publicly denouncing terrorism and suggesting diplomacy between themselves and Israel and I'll change my mind. How can you compare this "army of god" to the self dubbed "army of dumbasses" that support a Palestinian state? Palestine won't be satisfied until they conquer all of the land which Israel occupies. That will never happen.....and people like you, with you charts and pictures of flaming comic figures, will never relent in your pursuit to somehow convice us that Palestine is the innocent victim in this conflict. Don't tell me Muslims around the world aren't aware of Palestines intentions of their own manifest destiney..... Side show is never wrong.. Haven't you heard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Nuke, if I'm wrong then show me with the facts. Come on, Nuke, I've posted plenty of them from reputable sources so if you want to say "That's BS", you better have information to back it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I don't claim to have all the answers...never did. But I do know where you can find 'em! Now...leave me alone! Sure, as a "Jew" (in quotes because you aren't really a Jew) you could find them in your Torah, but you choose to ignore everything but what supports your Zionism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 Perhaps my favorite peace song of all time. Mother, mother There's too many of you crying Brother, brother, brother There's far too many of you dying You know we've got to find a way To bring some lovin' here today - Ya Father, father We don't need to escalate You see, war is not the answer For only love can conquer hate You know we've got to find a way To bring some lovin' here today Picket lines and picket signs Don't punish me with brutality Talk to me, so you can see Oh, what's going on What's going on Ya, what's going on Ah, what's going on In the mean time Right on, baby Right on Right on Father, father, everybody thinks we're wrong Oh, but who are they to judge us Simply because our hair is long Oh, you know we've got to find a way To bring some understanding here today Oh Picket lines and picket signs Don't punish me with brutality Talk to me So you can see What's going on Ya, what's going on Tell me what's going on I'll tell you what's going on - Uh Right on baby Right on baby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Sure, as a "Jew" (in quotes because you aren't really a Jew) you could find them in your Torah, but you choose to ignore everything but what supports your Zionism. I said once before, douchebag, that I don't study Torah! For you to say that I'm not a Jew is an insult. I was born a Jew, Bar Mitzvahed, and will die a Jew! You were born an anti-Semite, live as one, and will die as a pathetic, hate filled asshole! You are dead to me, you piece of s***! I will not respond to ANY of your postings, because you are obviously an uneducated, inbred, white trailer trash, racist. Keep hiding under your white sheets! :fyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I said once before, douchebag, that I don't study Torah! For you to say that I'm not a Jew is an insult. You are dead to me, you piece of s***! I will not respond to ANY of your postings, because you are uneducated, inbred, Indiana white trailer trash. :fyou Jews study and obey the Torah, which means by definition you are not a Jew. It is that simple Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I said once before, douchebag, that I don't study Torah! For you to say that I'm not a Jew is an insult. You are dead to me, you piece of s***! I will not respond to ANY of your postings, because you are uneducated, inbred, Indiana white trailer trash. :fyou Damn, thats a little harsh isint it? I agree with a lot of the points you make on this issue but thats a little out of line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Damn, thats a little harsh isint it? I agree with a lot of the points you make on this issue but thats a little out of line. Dude...I'm sick of SouthSider's racist ways...he insults me every chance he gets. His breathing the same air I breathe is the biggest insult of all. I make NO APOLOGIES for who I ma or what I've said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Wouldn't that be easy. Figure out who the murders are before they murder and get rid of them. That's the problem in the US we believe in innocent until proven guilty. Didn't a suburb try and block their roads that led into the city and create cul de sacs? I forget which suburb tried it? Perhaps Evanston. My guess it was in the early 70s. I remember a whole lot of retoric about it being discriminatory. I t was Evanston...I lived right near the "Evanston/Chicago Barricade." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach23 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Dude...I'm sick of SouthSider's racist ways...he insults me every chance he gets. His breathing the same air I breathe is the biggest insult of all. I make NO APOLOGIES for who I ma or what I've said! For a guy who is done with this thread and not posting on it anymore, you sure do post a lot on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Dude...I'm sick of SouthSider's racist ways...he insults me every chance he gets. His breathing the same air I breathe is the biggest insult of all. I make NO APOLOGIES for who I ma or what I've said! I know I've gone off on certain people around here a few times but thats all fun and games as far as I'm concerned . Damn dude, this is a message board. If someone rubs you the wrong way then just get over it. Life goes on and Isreal will still be there when the sun comes up in the morning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Dude...I'm sick of SouthSider's racist ways...he insults me every chance he gets. His breathing the same air I breathe is the biggest insult of all. I make NO APOLOGIES for who I ma or what I've said! Little sensative there? I guess you can't handle the fact that posing as a Jew doesn't make you a Jew. Go ahead keep tossing out labels, but realize the only person who has ever advocated the oppression of a people simply because of their race it you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I thought this thread was about a wall...?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 I said once before, douchebag, that I don't study Torah! For you to say that I'm not a Jew is an insult. I was born a Jew, Bar Mitzvahed, and will die a Jew! You were born an anti-Semite, live as one, and will die as a pathetic, hate filled asshole! You are dead to me, you piece of s***! I will not respond to ANY of your postings, because you are obviously an uneducated, inbred, white trailer trash, racist. Keep hiding under your white sheets! :fyou The love and respect for your fellow man is very touching. Thank you for bringing clearly to the fore front of this debate why peace is impossible. Guys, this is really unfair to Israel4ever. I feel like a kid at the baboon cage tauntiing the baboon. Hey everybody let's make him yell and scream and fling poo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Let's look at the "Fence Issue" once again, in a comparison context. There is a 20 meter high concrete wall surrounding the Vatican City in Rome, (it was built with the sole purpose of keeping the Italians out.). There is a fence between Botswana and Zimbabwe, built to keep the people of Zimbabwe from entering Botswana, and bettering their dire economic conditions. There IS a fence between Mexico and the US, built to keep illegal workers out of the US (it is 14 miles long at San Ysidro) in Texas, there is a natural barrier (Rio Grande). There is a fence separating North and South Korea. There is a British forced fence separating Northern Ireland, to facilitate Catholics and Protestants coexisting. There is a fence built by the Dutch at Hoek van Holland, so they can keep "undesirables" out. There is a fence between India and Pakistan. There is a fence in Spain, guarded by armed troops, in Ceuta, on the Moroccan border, built to keep illegal workers out of Spain. Interstingly enough, ALL of these countries have complained about and condemned the Security Fence in Israel as being unlawful and racist. Double standard??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 For a guy who is done with this thread and not posting on it anymore, you sure do post a lot on it. "Every time I think I'm out, the keep pulling me back in!" -Michael Corleone- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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