zach23 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 So.. umm... what's up with the wall..?? All in all this is all just bricks in the wall....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 2) Jesus was a rabbi (I believe he voluntarily gave up Judaism, I don't know for sure). 3) I believe Jesus was A son of G-d, like I believe we are all "Children of G-d". let me step in here (why I do not know) Jesus was a respected teacher, a rabbi by popular contemporary parlance, and Jesus embraced Judaism fully - Jesus never started another religion. The separation between Judiasm and Chriustianity came later by decades and certainly by the time of the fall of Jerusalem to Titus in 70 CE Paul reminds us in Romans that we Christians are but a branch on the tree of faith, that tree being, accoridng to Paul, Judaism. Christians should do well to remember our own Scriptures makes us the branch, not the tree itself. I would not expect anyone who follows Judaism to acknowledge or accept Jesus as anything more than a good teacher. Again citing Paul, Paul says some people know God by the Mosaic covenant and then there were those of us who couldn't grasp that so we know God through Jesus, the Christian covenant. There is more than one way to God - or should I say, more than one way God comes to us. The term "Christ killer" is offensive in the extreme and has been behind more pograms, hatred, and ultimately holocaust. A person is considered a Jew if the mother is Jewish. Being Jewish has nothing to do with keeping to the faith and/or religious practices of Judaism. Please resume insulting each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 All in all this is all just bricks in the wall....... all in all its just another brick in the wall Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 So.. umm... what's up with the wall..?? Frank and Maggs want it moved in and the pitchers are b****ing. It's all part of the ISA, US Cellular, and some worldwide conspiracy against righthanded batters. I could be worng, and if I am, someone will tell me. And Steff by using the you are clearly showing a pro-Arab and anti semite bias you b**** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Please resume insulting each other. HOW DARE YOU DISAGREE WITH ME!! YOU DONT DESERVE TO BREATHE THE SAME AIR I DO YOU SWINE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Israel, I have a joke for you. A good friend of mine told it to me and I thought of you. A young Jewish man calls home and talks to his mother. "Mom, I have some news you may like and you may not like, I'm getting married!" "That's wonderfull Joey, but why wouldn't I be happy?" "Well mom, she's isn't Jewish, she's American Indian" "Oh vey" "Her name is Running Deer and I know you will like her" "Joey, Joey, Joey, what will I tell your bubby?" "and mom, I've taken an Indian name my self, I am Smiling Owl" silence from mom "And mom, I think you should have an Indian name also" "I already do" "You do? What is it?" "Sitting Shiva when you father hears about this" I've heard it...Very funny. Here's a godd/sick joke for you... Knock, knock... Who's there? Little Boy Blue. Little Boy Blue, who? MICHAEL JACKSON Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 let me step in here (why I do not know) Jesus was a respected teacher, a rabbi by popular contemporary parlance, and Jesus embraced Judaism fully - Jesus never started another religion. The separation between Judiasm and Chriustianity came later by decades and certainly by the time of the fall of Jerusalem to Titus in 70 CE Paul reminds us in Romans that we Christians are but a branch on the tree of faith, that tree being, accoridng to Paul, Judaism. Christians should do well to remember our own Scriptures makes us the branch, not the tree itself. I would not expect anyone who follows Judaism to acknowledge or accept Jesus as anything more than a good teacher. Again citing Paul, Paul says some people know God by the Mosaic covenant and then there were those of us who couldn't grasp that so we know God through Jesus, the Christian covenant. There is more than one way to God - or should I say, more than one way God comes to us. The term "Christ killer" is offensive in the extreme and has been behind more pograms, hatred, and ultimately holocaust. A person is considered a Jew if the mother is Jewish. Being Jewish has nothing to do with keeping to the faith and/or religious practices of Judaism. Please resume insulting each other. Finally...a ray of hope, and, an intelligent posting! All hail, cwsox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I don't wanna play anymore...this is very tedious! Email me if you want. Carry on. Shalom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I never said I know everything, far from it...but there are a lot of "know-it-alls" here, like SouthSide, Zach, Kapkomet, TexSox, etc., who can berate me and my postings, but cannot (have not) back(ed) up anything they've said. Umm... I have been quoting many of the same sources that you have! You used the Torah, I used the Torah. You quoted King, I used King's teachings on nonviolence. I guess that means I am not backing anything up, neither are you. But then again you haven't let facts stop you yet, so why would you now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach23 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 The separation between Judiasm and Chriustianity came later by decades and certainly by the time of the fall of Jerusalem to Titus in 70 CE Was that during the time of: Pilate and his sidekick, Biggus Dickus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Finally...a ray of hope, and, an intelligent posting! All hail, cwsox. I thought you were leaving this post for good here's how you site facts One more time --- All of the answers are here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach23 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I thought you were leaving this post for good here's how you site facts One more time --- All of the answers are here. He just left it for good for the second time. He is doing a Michael Jordan retirement from the thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 I thought you were leaving this post for good here's how you site facts One more time --- All of the answers are here. Damn, that was 6 pages of posts ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Damn, that was 6 pages of posts ago. Yeah I just woke up though I had a rough one last night... That was the first thing I saw was I4E on the main page in the Ireal Wall thread..I had to post a response, with proof to back it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Was that during the time of: Pilate and his sidekick, Biggus Dickus zach23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Was that during the time of: Pilate and his sidekick, Biggus Dickus Oh SNAP!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 Interesting, about three or four pages back we were discussing who is and isn't a Jew. Not yet Jews Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Frank and Maggs want it moved in and the pitchers are b****ing. It's all part of the ISA, US Cellular, and some worldwide conspiracy against righthanded batters. I could be worng, and if I am, someone will tell me. And Steff by using the you are clearly showing a pro-Arab and anti semite bias you b**** Wait.. I thought the wall "move in" was Albert's cry back in '98..?? Did you just call me a b****...? it's FAT ASS BIOTCH, thank you very much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Interesting, about three or four pages back we were discussing who is and isn't a Jew. Not yet Jews We could always use Adam Sandler for that... "Okay... This is a song that uhh.. There's a lot of Christmas songs out there and uhh.. not too many Chanukah songs. So uhh.. I wrote a song for all those nice little Jewish kids who don't get to hear any Chanukah songs. Here we go..." Put on your yarmulke Here comes Chanukah So much funukah To celebrate Chanukah Chanukah is the festival of lights Instead of one day of presents, we have eight crazy nights When you feel like the only kid in town without a Christmas tree Here's a list of people who are Jewish just like you and me David Lee Roth lights the menorah So do James Caan, Kirk Douglas, and the late Dinah Shore-ah Guess who eats together at the Carnegie Deli Bowser from Sha Na Na and Arthur Fonzerelli Paul Newman's half Jewish, Goldie Hawn's half too Put them together, what a fine lookin' Jew You don't need "Deck The Halls" or "Jingle Bell Rock" 'Cause you can spin a dreidel with Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock- both Jewish Put on your yarmulke It's time for Chanukah The owner of the Seattle Supersonicahs Celebrates Chanukah O.J. Simpson, not a Jew But guess who is? Hall of famer Rod Carew- he converted We got Ann Landers and her sister Dear Abby Harrison Ford's a quarter Jewish- not too shabby Some people think that Ebenezer Scrooge is Well he's not, but guess who is All three Stooges So many Jews are in showbiz Tom Cruise isn't, but I heard his agent is Tell your friend Veronica It's time to celebrate Chanukah I hope I get a harmonicah Oh this lovely, lovely Chanukah So drink your gin and tonicah And smoke your marijuanikah If you really, really wannakah Have a happy, happy, happy, happy Chanukah Happy Chanukah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 Wait.. I thought the wall "move in" was Albert's cry back in '98..?? Did you just call me a b****...? it's FAT ASS BIOTCH, thank you very much! I just want you to take off the burqa you qualify and bio what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach61 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 So Israel boy, how about those US companies names that descriminate against Jews that you mentioned. You said you would get me the names, and you still haven't given me anything. And why is it that if someone doesn't agree with what you think, they are right away Jew haters? No wonder more and more people are siding with the Palestinians. And what would you like me to back up with proof that I said? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 So Israel boy, how about those US companies names that descriminate against Jews that you mentioned. You said you would get me the names, and you still haven't given me anything. And why is it that if someone doesn't agree with what you think, they are right away Jew haters? No wonder more and more people are siding with the Palestinians. And what would you like me to back up with proof that I said? Suggested reading: The Politics of Anti-Semitism It's a pretty good read about how once the label 'anti-semite' was given to the worst human rights abusers of Jews (i.e. the Nazis) but now is given, by some right wing Likud-niks, to any person who even has the slightest critique of the Israeli state. It goes into the reasons why this occured also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted January 23, 2004 Author Share Posted January 23, 2004 Israel4ever, I am ready to prove any statement that you like. I realized I threw away my vinyl and 8 track tapes of Marvin Gaye's What's Goin' On which may have proven it's my favorite peace anthem. So y'all will just have to take my word for it. Earlier you accused me of making statements without facts and I would like a chance to prove I have not made a statement I couldn't back with facts. I think it's funny you attacked me and I agreed with the wall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach61 Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 What a review on that book sideshow: Reviewer: A reader from Bloomington, Indiana The people of Palestine may be in the most desperate condition of any people in the world. Naturally, we hear almost nothing of their plight. Worse, they are depicted in the American media and political sphere in racist terms, as fanatical automatons strapped with suicide belts. Anyone who tries to break through this foul fiction is crushed, branded an anti-semite, exiled to media oblivion never to be heard from again. It happens every day. Even to people in power. Ask former members of Congress Cynthia McKinney and David Hilliard, who criticized Israel and immediately lost their seats in Congress. Ask the veterans of the USS Liberty, the Navy ship that was attacked and nearly sank in 1967 by the Israeli military. Their demands for justice remain unmet and are largely unheard. This courageous book begins to set things right. Edited by two seasoned investigative journalists, Alexander Cockburn and Jeffrey St. Clair, and featuring essays from professors, such as Shahid Alam and Michael Neumann, Israelis (such as Uri Avnery and refusenik Yigal Bronner) and American Jews, Norman Finkelstein, Bruce Jackson and Lenni Brenner, the Politics of Anti-Semitism is a full-bore assault on the craven political correctness that has stymied the media and held the US congress hostile to every whim of a rogue state that terrorizes its neighbors, brutalizes its citizens and robs land and resources. Israel is the new South Africa, only worse. The time has come to tell the truth. This book is a formidable first step. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted January 23, 2004 Share Posted January 23, 2004 Suggested reading: The Politics of Anti-Semitism It's a pretty good read about how once the label 'anti-semite' was given to the worst human rights abusers of Jews (i.e. the Nazis) but now is given, by some right wing Likud-niks, to any person who even has the slightest critique of the Israeli state. It goes into the reasons why this occured also. What Arab wrote "The Politics of Anti-Semitism"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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