Mariotti blasts Sox again

[Texsox]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but there hasn't been an original thought in baseball in 100 years. Example: Let's find the first person to think trading Kong for a pitcher, because everyone else must be copying.

 

Someone show me an example of original thought in baseball that a thousand other people didn't think of at the same time.

 

I think we flatter ourselves a little too much if we think writers actually come here because they have no clue or ideas for columns. Yes, it is a great way to gauge the feelings of the die hard fans, but trust me, most sportswriters, and I know a few from my college newspaper days, think the internet sites are full of psycho crazies who would be ignored in most bars.

[BrandoFan]

I don't have a dog in this fight, but there hasn't been an original thought in baseball in 100 years.

 

Why 100 years, why stop there? You why not, say, 140 years? What are your criteria for an "original" thought? Put the bat on the ball and outscore your opponent. Oh and don't get laid within a few hours of the game.

 

Example: Let's find the first person to think trading Kong for a pitcher, because everyone else must be copying.

 

Huh? There is inevitable, unintentional "copying", which is just expressing sound ideas better/differently than others....and then there is PLAGERIZING of which Mariotti (and pompous hacks in other industries) has been long suspected. He generates ratings, so noone at the paper questions his ethics and "ways". WSI thing is just a recent example.

 

There is also a big difference between a trade proposal and a focal idea of an ARTICLE.

 

Someone show me an example of original thought in baseball that a thousand other people didn't think of at the same time.

 

Well, if we're to look at it like that........Show me a thought PERIOD that millions of people didn't think of, one way or another at some time or another. Not that I would necessarily judge a professional journalist the way I would do "normal" people, mind you.... You don't have to re-invent the wheel of fortune in every paragraph, but at least have the decency to come up with our own thesis, arguementative progression and a semi intersting/original conclusion that 1000s of

uneducated message board folk haven't already beaten into the ground and frgotten.....I mean........What are your degrees worth otherwise?

 

I think we flatter ourselves a little too much if we think writers actually come here because they have no clue or ideas for columns

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I think you're looking for something that isn't there. It's not meant to be taken literally. Most people joke and hyperbolize about two-bit columnists scouting the boards and stealing their precious pearls of wisdom to further underscore how UNETHICAL those columnists are allowed to be, and how SIMPLISTIC and UNORIGINAL and CHEAP their scribblings are....even to the untrained eye. Most of Toad's logic and conclusions are THAT pititul and THAT agenda-driven, Tex.

 

Yes, it is a great way to gauge the feelings of the die hard fans

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Not that I think Mariotti would stoop as low as to actually paste-n-copy beastlyordonez's gems.......But in EVERY industry, especially now that Internet is here, nearly EVERYBODY steals/borrows/gets "inspired" by everybody else. Gauging feelings is just a fancy way of putting it. Reality.

 

It gets fairly easy to spot a skilled and imaginative talent just because of the startling contrast with the rest of the crowd.

 

but trust me, most sportswriters, and I know a few from my college newspaper days, think the internet sites are full of psycho crazies who would be ignored in most bars

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Forgive me for calling a spade a spade. That Jay Mariotti is a major city newspaper columnist, covering the coolest game ever invented in the fashion that he does......is a testament to the greater injustice of the world.

 

Oh the stigma and shame that come with being "ignored in most bars"......Oh God, no, not the baaaaaarrs.......

[BrandoFan]

Why 100 years, why stop there?  You why not, say, 140 years?  What are your criteria for an "original" thought?   Put the bat on the ball and outscore your opponent.   Oh and don't get laid within a few hours of the game. 

 

 

 

Huh?  There is inevitable, unintentional "copying", which is just expressing sound ideas better/differently than others....and then there is PLAGERIZING of which Mariotti (and pompous hacks in other industries) has been long suspected.  He generates ratings, so noone at the paper questions his ethics and "ways".   WSI thing is just a recent example.

 

There is also a big difference between a trade proposal and a focal idea of an ARTICLE.  

 

 

 

Well, if we're to look at it like that........Show me a thought PERIOD that millions of people didn't think of, one way or another at some time or another.   Not that I would necessarily judge a professional journalist  the way I would do "normal" people, mind you.... You don't have to re-invent the wheel of fortune in every paragraph, but at least have the decency to come up with our own thesis,  arguementative progression and a semi intersting/original conclusion that 1000s of

uneducated message board folk haven't already beaten into the ground and frgotten.....I mean........What are your degrees worth otherwise?

 

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I think you're looking for something that isn't there. It's not meant to be taken literally.   Most people joke and hyperbolize about two-bit columnists scouting the boards and stealing their precious pearls of wisdom to further underscore how UNETHICAL those columnists are allowed to be, and how SIMPLISTIC and UNORIGINAL and CHEAP their scribblings are....even to the untrained eye.   Most of Toad's logic and conclusions are THAT pititul and THAT agenda-driven, Tex.  

 

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Not that I think Mariotti would stoop as low as to actually paste-n-copy beastlyordonez's gems.......But in EVERY industry, especially now that Internet is here, nearly EVERYBODY steals/borrows/gets "inspired" by everybody else.  Gauging feelings is just a fancy way of putting it.  Reality. 

 

It gets fairly easy to spot a skilled and imaginative talent just because of the startling contrast with the rest of the crowd. 

 

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Forgive me for calling a spade a spade.   That Jay Mariotti is a major city newspaper columnist,  covering the coolest game ever invented in the fashion that he does......is a testament to the greater injustice of the world.  

 

Oh the stigma and shame that come with being "ignored in most bars"......Oh God, no, not the baaaaaarrs.......  

 

http://www.suntimes.com/output/mariotti/cst-spt-jay06.html

 

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