SuperSteve Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 This is a huge deal in the world of wrestling, and beyond. J Robinson would be equal to Rick Patino in college wrestling. His main a points are: 1. The University has two sets of rules for its teams. Men’s teams, especially non-revenue teams are not granted the same privileges that the women’s teams are given. The women’s teams are granted finances based solely on the fact that they are women. Coaches are paid more just because they coach women. It doesn’t matter whether they are men or women, it only matters that they are coaching a women’s teams. 2. Freedom of speech. Because J spoke out against Title IX, and its injustices, the university reprimanded him and tried to fire him. This is called reprisal. Chicago Tribune Miami Herald Deluth Superior This is a huge deal. I know no one on this board will understand how big this will be in the wrestling world, but it will not just effect wrestling; swimming, gymnastics, and other non-revenue sports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 I have been waiting for title 9 to be applied to nonrevenue sports. It will be interesting to see how this pans out, and if it affects womens sports as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 I have been waiting for title 9 to be applied to nonrevenue sports. It will be interesting to see how this pans out, and if it affects womens sports as well. Yeah, it seems more fair that way. I don't know the specifics though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Yeah, it seems more fair that way. I don't know the specifics though. The specifics of Title 9 are basically that for every mens sport, you have to have a womens sport. And because of the money losing nature of certian mens sports, such as wrestling, many mens sports have been cut, instead of adding womens sports, to achieve the balance. According to title 9 revenue has no bearing on how many womens sports should be fielded at the collgeiate level, just an equal # as men's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted February 12, 2004 Author Share Posted February 12, 2004 I have been waiting for title 9 to be applied to nonrevenue sports. It will be interesting to see how this pans out, and if it affects womens sports as well. There is a war going on with Title IX already. The biggest names in wrestling are already fighting for wrestling. Dan Gable, J Robinson, Tom Brands, and many others are fighting for the sport. A few years back, when I used to go to the University of Iowa camps (wow, how did I end up at State then? ), they would talk to us about Title IX. They went on for awhile on it, and it is still a downward battle that most mens sports are fighting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted February 12, 2004 Author Share Posted February 12, 2004 The specifics of Title 9 are basically that for every mens sport, you have to have a womens sport. And because of the money losing nature of certian mens sports, such as wrestling, many mens sports have been cut, instead of adding womens sports, to achieve the balance. According to title 9 revenue has no bearing on how many womens sports should be fielded at the collgeiate level, just an equal # as men's. Wrestling is one of the few sports that doesn't lose much, if any money. The state of Washington does not right now have a D1 wrestling program, but Washington State is in the process of reinstating their program. Here at State, we raise easily over half of the budget. We work a ton of crap for it, and have great boosters and supporters. We have the nicest facilities in the nation. Our lockeroom is gorgeous, we have a raised platform for meets, and they are redoing the wrestling room this summer and building a team room (with a TV, couches, and all that stuff). State is an exception to a point, as it is generally one of the top programs in the nation...but we are one of the most controversial programs in the nation on several fronts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 The specifics of Title 9 are basically that for every mens sport, you have to have a womens sport. And because of the money losing nature of certian mens sports, such as wrestling, many mens sports have been cut, instead of adding womens sports, to achieve the balance. According to title 9 revenue has no bearing on how many womens sports should be fielded at the collgeiate level, just an equal # as men's. I knew that much. I thought there was more to it than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted February 12, 2004 Author Share Posted February 12, 2004 I knew that much. I thought there was more to it than that. The numbers are the big catching point. Instead of creating new womens sports and teams, colleges are just removing mens sports. That solves their problem off the bat. Cheerleading also does not count as a NCAA sport. So, all the cheerleaders are not NCAA athletes, and do not count towards the numbers. Title IX is a great idea, but it is being used the wrong way. One day Title IX activists will take on basketball or football, and that is a battle they could not win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 Yeah, I remember a piece on ESPN about mens' sports being cutoff because of Title IX. It's really wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted February 12, 2004 Share Posted February 12, 2004 ive never been a proponent of title ix..its a joke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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