kapkomet Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 FanOf14, I think marital infedelity is important insofar as their legislation can be seen as hypocritical. I mean, when a lot of Republicans are for a "sanctity of marriage" amendment to ban gay marriage...how can their reverence for the sanctity of marriage be believed if they violate it themselves. That's when I think infidelity is important. That is perfectly said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 To elaborate on my post after reading CW's post, many men and women are guilty of adultery at some point in their lives. This doesn't make it okay, I am merely stating a fact. If this is a disqualification to be pres, we just cut out many congressman (repubs and demos) and a large portion of the US. This is a question not an accusation of any sort so no panty bunching please, didn't Bush Jr. admit to some sort of affair? One way or another I don't care and it isn't the reason why I can't stand Bush. I am more concerned on what they can do as president - foreign relations, economy, women's issues (surprise there, huh?), health insurance, etc. i dont believe he did.. i know he admitted to using some illegal substances in his past..and abusing alcohol...wouldnt surprise if during that time in his life he did have an affair or affairs but i dont think it was ever reported as such Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Okee dokee. Like I said I couldn't remember for certain, but I had thought something like that came out...maybe it was someone else that was running for the republian nod last election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 Okee dokee. Like I said I couldn't remember for certain, but I had thought something like that came out...maybe it was someone else that was running for the republian nod last election. cant remember for sure but i think something came out about mccain having an affair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted February 13, 2004 Share Posted February 13, 2004 cant remember for sure but i think something came out about mccain having an affair Could have been. I would have voted for him had he gotten the nod last time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted February 15, 2004 Share Posted February 15, 2004 Add to that the fact that he was a traitor to his country appearing at the same antiwar protests with the infamous "Hanoi Jane" Fonda and rooting for a communist victory in the war. Kerry was never anywhere near Fonda -- Newsday Newsday also broke the A-rod trade. 1971 Photo of Kerry Doctored By Michael Rothfeld Staff Writer As a 20-year-old photographer documenting the country's struggle over the Vietnam War, Ken Light snapped the picture of John Kerry at a peace rally in Mineola. It captured the future senator alone at a podium, squinting into the sun. Light did not photograph Jane Fonda on that warm June Sunday in 1971. The actress, who is reviled by many Vietnam veterans for her vocal stance against the war, did not even attend. But when opponents of the Democratic presidential hopeful began e-mailing Light's picture to one another four days ago, it depicted Fonda standing by Kerry's side. The photo had been doctored. "I'm horrified," said Light, 52, who grew up in East Meadow and now heads the graduate photojournalism program at the University of California at Berkeley. "I think this kind of alteration is probably one of the scariest forms of trickery, particularly when it's done against a political candidate." Dag Vega, a spokesman for Kerry's campaign, said, "The smear tactics have started already." Kerry, who co-founded Vietnam Veterans Against the War, spoke at the Register for Peace Rally on June 13, 1971, when thousands gathered for "the largest anti-war demonstration ever held on Long Island," according to a story in Newsday the next day. Light recalled Long Islanders of all ages sprawled across the State Supreme Court mall in Mineola, with American flags and peace symbols. Former members of Congress who attended included Bella Abzug, Allard Lowenstein and Lester Wolff. Folk singer Peter Yarrow entertained, and the rally ended with a burst of thunder and lightning. Light, a student in Ohio at the time, took the picture of Kerry but never published it, and it sat in his files until two weeks ago when he shipped it to Corbis, his Seattle-based agent, which placed it in its online archives. That is apparently where someone found it, and attempted to capitalize on the attention garnered by an authentic photo of Kerry and Fonda at a Vietnam-era rally -- seated some distance apart -- posted early this month on a Web site called www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnkerry.com. The Web site's creator, Ted Sampley, a Vietnam veteran from North Carolina, said he received the doctored photo by e-mail on Wednesday from a woman in Richmond, Va. "Thought you might want to include this pic on your site," said the note from Loree Siemek, with an attachment called "HanoiJohn.jpg," a takeoff on "Hanoi Jane," the derisive nickname given to Fonda by her critics during the Vietnam era. It is made to look like a newspaper clipping, headlined "Fonda Speaks to Vietnam Veterans at Anti- War Rally," with an Associated Press photo credit. Sampley said he was immediately skeptical, and e-mailed it to some friends who concluded it was faked. He did not post it. "I looked at it and it didn't feel right," Sampley said in an interview. "It just looked too good." Siemek, 34, reached by phone, said she found the picture on a conservative Internet message board and had no idea it was phony. "This thing has spiraled out of control," Siemek said. "If I had any thought that photo was not real, I would never have forwarded it to the veterans' group." Copyright © 2004, Newsday, Inc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted February 15, 2004 Share Posted February 15, 2004 i am a republican...i just cant believe after the clinton fiasco that if these allegations are true that there are still people out there saying it doesnt matter... Of course it doesn't matter. To me. I want the uber-scumbag Bush and his neo-con fundamentalist cronies G-O-N-E, and if it takes a lesser scum-bag Kerry or Edwards, fan-f***in'-fastic. As such, obviously I am willing to overlook such tiny offense as occasional secretary-schtupping. More power to him. Call it seeing the forest for the trees. YMMV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted February 15, 2004 Share Posted February 15, 2004 . I guess it also puts me at odds with that opinion because I think gay marriage is fine - if you don't like gay marriage, don't have one That's they way I have looked it ever since my conscience came out of the closet a few years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted February 15, 2004 Share Posted February 15, 2004 Of course it doesn't matter. To me. I want the uber-scumbag Bush and his neo-con fundamentalist cronies G-O-N-E, and if it takes a lesser scum-bag Kerry or Edwards, fan-f***in'-fastic. As such, obviously I am willing to overlook such tiny offense as occasional secretary-schtupping. More power to him. Call it seeing the forest for the trees. YMMV. the rest of the country doesnt think like liberal chicagoans...if a real story broke about kerry chasing women now..not 20 years ago....but since he got remarried it would kill his campiagn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted February 15, 2004 Share Posted February 15, 2004 the rest of the country doesnt think like liberal chicagoans...if a real story broke about kerry chasing women now..not 20 years ago....but since he got remarried it would kill his campiagn Everyone is entitled to their opinions, even non-Chicago liberals. Of course that won't stop me from ridiculing them and their ignorant, hypocritical and/or immoral ilk on occasion or two. But ultimately, I realize that this is supposed to be a true Democracy, with every ideological and political "inconvenience" such distinction entails. If not Kerry or Edwards ot Clark, then give me MaCain, give me Powell, give me Libermann, give me Hilary, give me Gore, give me Sharpton, give me Slick Willie for unconst. 3rd term....anybody but Debuy'ya. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted February 16, 2004 Share Posted February 16, 2004 4 MORE YEARS!!! 4 MORE YEARS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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