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Mr Eye, I love you always!  And whether one is Catholic or not, it is a great curiousity that the pr for this movie has claimed the Pope's endorsement when the Vatican vehemently denies the Pope doing so - the pre release press campaign has been one of the most curious in history, and perhaps most effective

I'll give you that. I'm hearing a lot of crazy stuff coming from all sides. It definitely will be interesting, though.

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Cool.. another rasist exposed.  :headshake

im not racisists and you cant say that about me when you dont even know me. im white, but my step sisters who i was raced with are half spanish. i have had many black friends, not to mention even a couple jewish friends. so dont be jumping on the racist gun yet. you dont even know me.

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im not racisists and you cant say that about me when you dont even know me. im white, but my step sisters who i was raced with are half spanish. i have had many black friends, not to mention even a couple jewish friends. so dont be jumping on the racist gun yet. you dont even know me.

From your comment that "everyone hates jews" I can, and do, take that as a racist comment. It's a racist comment. You made it. Just commenting on your comment.. :rolleyes:

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From your comment that "everyone hates jews" I can, and do, take that as a racist comment.  It's a racist comment. You made it. Just commenting on your comment..  :rolleyes:

i didnt mean everyone. i ment a morjority. have you heard how many jew jokes there are. and how many people hate the jews.

 

btw im a little drunk.

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i didnt mean everyone. i ment a morjority. have you heard how many jew jokes there are. and how many people hate the jews.

 

btw im a little drunk.

420.. for every jewish joke I've heard 10 lawyer jokes.. and catholic jokes.. and polish jokes... and african american jokes. I fail to see how that equates to "the majority" And how exactly does that mean they are hated? :huh

 

 

Enjoy the buzz... :cheers

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i didnt mean everyone. i ment a morjority. have you heard how many jew jokes there are. and how many people hate the jews.

I guess that means everyone hates Pollacks and blondes...(I guess that means I am double hated...er...1.5 x hated (only half Polish)...I wonder if that is anything like double secret probation). :o :lol:

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I guess that means everyone hates Pollacks and blondes...(I guess that means I am double hated...er...1.5 x hated (only half Polish)...I wonder if that is anything like double secret probation).  :o  :lol:

I'm a red-headed step child.

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PA, not you in general!

 

as a specific event in a place in time that was performed by the Romans, the crucifixion of Jesus was of course a theological and salvific necessity and is understood to have been done in its real sense by all of us as it was for th atonement of the sin of all of us

 

and that is where I read you as being very much - 

 

the problem is that some people from the beginning of the Church have used the event as a way of blood guilt to lay upon the Jewish people - millenia of history have shown that - pogroms almost always broke out in Europe, where they did, around Holy Week and the general antiSemitism always began with "they killed Jesus didn't they" as if bigotry or killing against/of Jews culminating in the Holocaust was a proper response to Calvary

 

that the Gibson family has the views it has and has made a movie which the script - and all I spoke of was the script which has been available - repeats all that blood guilt stuff, then that is worthy of comment

 

interesting that Gibson has screened his movie only for evangelical and conservative Catholic groups - he has refused screenings for seminary (Christian and Jewish( faculties, the National Council of Churches, Jewish groups, Jewish religious organizations) - by billing himself as a martyr

to "the liberals" and "political correctness" has been a great marketing ploy and that very approach to me bears out the deep concerns

 

of course since Mel wants to rip out the intestines (little too much Braveheart, there, Mel!) of his critics, we need to be very careful in criticizing him! :ph34r:  :ph34r:  :ph34r:

 

 

a lot of my dear clergy friends in my community are buying tickets by the score for their church members to see it as a "witness to Christ against the antGospel attackers of this dear Christian man and his wonderful movie"  - this is the shrewdist marketing campaign that I have ever seen - and my friends are convinced that any criticism of the script or the marketing campaign or the film's maker is against Jesus -  what does one say, I think they are not looking at the known facts, they think I am wrong because I am so "liberal", and we love each other and work for good together in other ways

 

my comment that those churches should repent was a little over the top and I would have had a better post had I not stated that and I do withdraw that statement -

Cdub,

 

I'm in total agreeance with you. I, for one, don't necessarily hinge my faith on Gil's assessment of "who killed Jesus", but it's obvious to see that there are some people out there ready to use anything and everything to boost their anti-semetic agendum.

 

I'm going to see this film because I'm a firm supporter of the message of Christ and a man ingnorant of the "true killers" of Christ, and therefore, I'd like to analyze as much information on the subject as possible...though truthfully, in the metaphoric sense, we all take daily turns at turning our backs, spitting on Him, and landing punches in sinful defiance.

 

I am a desperate and dead sinner...

 

 

"oh for Grace, I trust you Lord"

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oh lord.

 

don't go there. :nono

 

Mr.-John-Deere-Drivin'-Tractors-To-School-To-Get-Through-The-Cowcrap-In-My-Backyard-NonChanging-Clock-Hoosier!

 

:ph34r:

Hey buddy, I change my clock more often than I drive my tractor to school :finger, well at least since they kicked me out of the 6th grade for being 21...

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