israel4ever Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Ladies and Gentlemen: It has come to my attention that Soxtalk.com has temporarily suspended "Steve Bartman is My Idol", for allegedly posting "blatant lies" on the site. (BTW, he is my brother...we are not the same person. He is a die hard Sox fan, is extremely knowledgable about baseball, and is distraught (yeah right!!!) about his suspension! This is problematic to me for the following reasons: 1) There are only a "million or so" trade rumors posted on Soxtalk.com on a daily basis, 99.9% of which are unsubstantiated. 2) You have "posters" like Apu, for example, who is allowed to spout off his "knowledge" on a myriad of topics, much of which he knows little or nothing about. 3) You have other "posters" who attempt to abuse and mock others, use derogatory and/or inflammatory and/or offensive language towards others; they are not censored or suspended. Please explain your policies for suspensions on your site. It is my understanding that we live in the USA, where we still enjoy Freedom of Speech and other such freedoms...maybe I'm wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Trade rumor is one thing. Flat out lying and saying that I HEARD THIS RUMOR ON ESPN is another thing. It won't be tolerated. If that is the kind of site you want, try the public boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 I heard Shaer say it too! Does that make me a liar??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 I heard Shaer say it too! Does that make me a liar??? No it makes you and "your brother" the same person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniBob72 Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Something odd though. A buddy of mine just emailed me saying that USA Today is reporting that Frank is demanding a trade to LA because he's tired of Guillen calling him out in public. Surely this is an independent report as he doesn't visit this site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Trade rumor is one thing. Flat out lying and saying that I HEARD THIS RUMOR ON ESPN is another thing. It won't be tolerated. If that is the kind of site you want, try the public boards. I just listened to the sportscenter update on ESPN 1000, and there is a quote out out there that Thomas wants to be traded. I just didn't hear the source because the walkman I'm listenening decided to shell out static right before that moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 No it makes you and "your brother" the same person. Did you call the station ss2k4 to make sure if it was or was not reported? I didn't hear him say this either, but I only listened for about 20 minutes today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 I just listened to the sportscenter update on ESPN 1000, and there is a quote out out there that Thomas wants to be traded. I just didn't hear the source because the walkman I'm listenening decided to shell out static right before that moment. No one else could verify it, and it wasn't on their site. If this is true, I apoligize and will fix the suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Bartman and Israel4Ever are the same person as shown by the IP addresses which also reveal where they work - whether this was reported on ESPN 1000 I do not know because I am in Michigan - but by the same token Bartmnan and I4E are in Virginia where there is less chance of them hearing it than me funny how they only post at the same time - so whatever game is being played - there is something not right here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Bartman and Israel4Ever are the same person as shown by the IP addresses which also reveal where they work - whether this was reported on ESPN 1000 I do not know because I am in Michigan - but by the same token Bartmnan and I4E are in Virginia where there is less chance of them hearing it than me funny how they only post at the same time - so whatever game is being played - there is something not right here Where did you hear he lives in Virginia? In Pale Hose Talk he stated how he works at O'Hare........terminal 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 The policy is simple. You shell out money to start and maintain a BBS system and you can do whatever you please. I love it when capitalism and free speech collide. I believe the real powers to be here (not the mods) are more tolerant than I would be in the same situation. I cannot suspend anyone and have barely learned how to delete a post and close a thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 I just listened to the sportscenter update on ESPN 1000, and there is a quote out out there that Thomas wants to be traded. I just didn't hear the source because the walkman I'm listenening decided to shell out static right before that moment. We will accept yor public apologies, and my brother's reinstatement at any time!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 Bartman and Israel4Ever are the same person as shown by the IP addresses which also reveal where they work - whether this was reported on ESPN 1000 I do not know because I am in Michigan - but by the same token Bartmnan and I4E are in Virginia where there is less chance of them hearing it than me funny how they only post at the same time - so whatever game is being played - there is something not right here The IP addresses are based out of Virginia because we work for the Federal Government. I don't think that we owe you an explanation, but here it is!!! Come see us at Terminal 5, Dept. of Homeland Security...there are not any other brother-combos that are Sox fans here. Be warned though, if we see you here, we cannot/will not be responsible for what ensues!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 No it makes you and "your brother" the same person. Nope...it makes you a presumptive, repetitive bore! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Nope...it makes you a presumptive, repetitive bore! lol. anyways. Steve's suspension has been lifted. I apoligize to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Nope...it makes you a presumptive, repetitive bore! That was necessary... :headshake Geezus.. just doing their job to not let this site turn into the other s*** boards out there. IMO, this thread is bulls*** and issues like this is what PM's are for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 "Steve" thanks you! It wasn't totally about "steve" personally...I don't believe in censorship, so I had to write to express this to you. Sure, "incendiary language" has to be censored, but, "Steve" only reported on something he heard on the radio...there was nothing inflammatory about anything he said. Additionally, what would "steve" have had to gain by making up and posting lies on the site? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 That was necessary... :headshake Geezus.. just doing their job to not let this site turn into the other s*** boards out there. IMO, this thread is bulls*** and issues like this is what PM's are for. It doesn't bother me. That is part of the genuiness of this site, is the Admins and Mods won't hide from their actions, and act like they are better than the posters who really make up their site. If they want discussions out in public, that is fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 "Steve" thanks you! It wasn't totally about "steve" personally...I don't believe in censorship, so I had to write to express this to you. Sure, "incendiary language" has to be censored, but, "Steve" only reported on something he heard on the radio...there was nothing inflammatory about anything he said. Additionally, what would "steve" have had to gain by making up and posting lies on the site? He would have thanked you personally, but, he's still "locked out"!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Additionally, what would "steve" have had to gain by making up and posting lies on the site? Why does anyone make up s***? To rock the boat. Unfortunately this place has seen way too much of that bulls***, and it's caused a lot of trouble here. Fool them once.. shame on you, fool them twice shame on them.. try a third time and you better duck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 "Steve" thanks you! It wasn't totally about "steve" personally...I don't believe in censorship, so I had to write to express this to you. Sure, "incendiary language" has to be censored, but, "Steve" only reported on something he heard on the radio...there was nothing inflammatory about anything he said. Additionally, what would "steve" have had to gain by making up and posting lies on the site? I invite you to hang out for a week on one of the public boards, and you will know exactly what I am trying to aviod. The plethora of complete garbage overwealms any intelligent conversation and forces good posters to look for other places for information. At Soxtalk just about anything is tolerated, but their are lines. Allowing people to intentionally degrade this site by making stuff up won't be allowed. And as to the what would he have to gain, the answer is I don't know. Why do people troll at all? There must be something to gain from it. Entertainment, revenge, boredom, they could all be reasons for this type of behavior. It happens all the time. It is the big reason that I left the ESPN.com board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 At Soxtalk just about anything is tolerated, Yeah, SS2K4 is a mod! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted February 18, 2004 Author Share Posted February 18, 2004 I invite you to hang out for a week on one of the public boards, and you will know exactly what I am trying to aviod. The plethora of complete garbage overwealms any intelligent conversation and forces good posters to look for other places for information. At Soxtalk just about anything is tolerated, but their are lines. Allowing people to intentionally degrade this site by making stuff up won't be allowed. And as to the what would he have to gain, the answer is I don't know. Why do people troll at all? There must be something to gain from it. Entertainment, revenge, boredom, they could all be reasons for this type of behavior. It happens all the time. It is the big reason that I left the ESPN.com board. I agree. Lets "kill" this topic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Yeah, SS2K4 is a mod! Not a mod, an admin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted February 18, 2004 Share Posted February 18, 2004 Be warned though, if we see you here, we cannot/will not be responsible for what ensues!!! Right, give me a damn break buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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