Chisoxfn Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 This is assuming the Bulls get one of the 1st two picks. I think as long as the Bulls are 1 or 2 they will be able to get Okafor and insert him immediately as the starting power forward. With Okafor and Curry the long term answers down low, I look to move Chandler for an offensive weapon. I would offer two deals. The first deal would be AD-Chandler to the Celts for Paul Pierce and Michael Stewart (Bad contract). This deal works cap wise, although I am hard pressed to see the Celts doing it. However, not many of the Celts moves have made sense and if the Celts asked for next years 1st I'd gladly give it to them. IF the Celts don't accept, then I'd go to the backup and more likely plan. I'd deal Chandler and JYD to the Mavs for Antwan Jamison and Josh Howard. The Mavs finally get the low post players they need. Guys that will provide toughness and defense and possibly help the Mavericks get to the finals. This move works salary wise and gives the Bulls a legit 3 as well as a pretty good youngster in Josh Howard, who could provide some points off the bench. Then I'd either sign Jamaal Crawford or find a way to sign Qrich to the mid level exception. He's a free agent and from the Chicago area so the mid level may just be enough, especially if thats what the other teams are offering him. He plays better defense then Jamaal and would also be enough of an offensive presence. Either way the Bulls have a front court of shooters (Hinrich, Craw/Qrich, and Jamison) who would be great for Curry and Okafor to dish out too. They also have a pretty solid defensive team, minus Curry and Crawford and would have some damn good athletes. A starting lineup of PG - Hinrich, Craw, FA SG - Qrich/Craw, Josh Howard, Erob, Dupree SF - Jamison, Erob, Dupree PF - Okafor, AD, Blount, Lonny Baxter C - Curry, AD, Okafor, Blount, Lonny Baxter If the Bulls keep Craw then they may even be able to make a FA signing. Either way, that starting lineup would be plenty good to compete in the East and would also have the ability to grow into a better team. The bench wouldn't be bad either cause you'd always keep one of Okafor/Curry on the court with AD being out there eventually and I'd always have one of Crawford/Hinrich on the court giving you a good point all the time. Then Howard, Erob, and Dupree are good swing players and in other instances Blount and Baxter are more then capable depth players that can provide some toughness. I fully believe the deal for Jamison would be more then viable and the reason I'd rather have Okafor then Chandler is because Okafor is already a better defensive player. He's also healthy, and has a much better low game - offensively. In fact I could see him being a less offensive Elton Brand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 i think we gotta get rid of curry. he's lazy and too inconsistent. i think chandler is the better of the two but probably best to get rid of chandler too while we can since he is oft injured and probably will remain that way rest of career. i wouldn't mind keeping crawford as long as the guy learns to play some d and also learns not to make so many stupid shots. wouldn't mind seeing quentin here either. i doubt boston would get away with--from their fans--dealing pierce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted February 29, 2004 Share Posted February 29, 2004 That team would be way too young to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 i think we gotta get rid of curry. he's lazy and too inconsistent. i think chandler is the better of the two but probably best to get rid of chandler too while we can since he is oft injured and probably will remain that way rest of career. i wouldn't mind keeping crawford as long as the guy learns to play some d and also learns not to make so many stupid shots. wouldn't mind seeing quentin here either. i doubt boston would get away with--from their fans--dealing pierce. I think we have learned that 4 starters under 25 isn't a good thing in the NBA. They have to break these guys up, even if it means one of them ends up being a star somewhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 I think if Orlando gets da 1st pick they'll take Okafor and not Dwight Howard. But I think it's more likely Atlanta does and gets Howard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 Trade Chandler... and watch him become the next JO'Neal or Garnett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 I don't think Chandler has as much trade value right now as you think he does. Injuries and disciplinary issues are hurting him. I would offer two deals. The first deal would be AD-Chandler to the Celts for Paul Pierce and Michael Stewart (Bad contract). This deal works cap wise, although I am hard pressed to see the Celts doing it. However, not many of the Celts moves have made sense and if the Celts asked for next years 1st I'd gladly give it to them. IF the Celts don't accept, then I'd go to the backup and more likely plan. Pierce will be VERY difficult to remove from Boston. Ainge may be smoking the GM crackpipe this year in his trades but, he would be hung by his nads if he traded Pierce for just Chandler. I'd deal Chandler and JYD to the Mavs for Antwan Jamison and Josh Howard. The Mavs finally get the low post players they need. Guys that will provide toughness and defense and possibly help the Mavericks get to the finals. This move works salary wise and gives the Bulls a legit 3 as well as a pretty good youngster in Josh Howard, who could provide some points off the bench. Jamison is overrated, but it may be a more likely scenario than Pierce. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 This is assuming the Bulls get one of the 1st two picks. I think as long as the Bulls are 1 or 2 they will be able to get Okafor and insert him immediately as the starting power forward. With Okafor and Curry the long term answers down low, I look to move Chandler for an offensive weapon. I would offer two deals. The first deal would be AD-Chandler to the Celts for Paul Pierce and Michael Stewart (Bad contract). This deal works cap wise, although I am hard pressed to see the Celts doing it. However, not many of the Celts moves have made sense and if the Celts asked for next years 1st I'd gladly give it to them. IF the Celts don't accept, then I'd go to the backup and more likely plan. I'd deal Chandler and JYD to the Mavs for Antwan Jamison and Josh Howard. The Mavs finally get the low post players they need. Guys that will provide toughness and defense and possibly help the Mavericks get to the finals. This move works salary wise and gives the Bulls a legit 3 as well as a pretty good youngster in Josh Howard, who could provide some points off the bench. Then I'd either sign Jamaal Crawford or find a way to sign Qrich to the mid level exception. He's a free agent and from the Chicago area so the mid level may just be enough, especially if thats what the other teams are offering him. He plays better defense then Jamaal and would also be enough of an offensive presence. Either way the Bulls have a front court of shooters (Hinrich, Craw/Qrich, and Jamison) who would be great for Curry and Okafor to dish out too. They also have a pretty solid defensive team, minus Curry and Crawford and would have some damn good athletes. A starting lineup of PG - Hinrich, Craw, FA SG - Qrich/Craw, Josh Howard, Erob, Dupree SF - Jamison, Erob, Dupree PF - Okafor, AD, Blount, Lonny Baxter C - Curry, AD, Okafor, Blount, Lonny Baxter If the Bulls keep Craw then they may even be able to make a FA signing. Either way, that starting lineup would be plenty good to compete in the East and would also have the ability to grow into a better team. The bench wouldn't be bad either cause you'd always keep one of Okafor/Curry on the court with AD being out there eventually and I'd always have one of Crawford/Hinrich on the court giving you a good point all the time. Then Howard, Erob, and Dupree are good swing players and in other instances Blount and Baxter are more then capable depth players that can provide some toughness. I fully believe the deal for Jamison would be more then viable and the reason I'd rather have Okafor then Chandler is because Okafor is already a better defensive player. He's also healthy, and has a much better low game - offensively. In fact I could see him being a less offensive Elton Brand. Uhm, Last time I checked Lonny Baxter was a RAPTOR. And as far as Q-rich settling for the 4.5 mid level exception, YOU'RE NUTS. He's averagin close to 20 ppg this year. He'll command more than that. And lets say there was a miracle and we could sign him for that. Who comes off the bench? Crawford or Q? I don't think either would like that idea...And the whole Paul Pierce thing is RIDICOLOUS. I know I probably spelled that wrong, but u get the idea... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 Baxter got waived when they signed Dion Glover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 1, 2004 Author Share Posted March 1, 2004 Like Dan said, Baxter was just waived and the Bulls are reportedly going to be resigning him. Also, all I'm saying is that Crawford and Q are very similar players value wise. The Clippers will likely let him go and I think he still has enough question marks where no team will make a huge offer to them, at least not with some of the other players on the market. My thoughts are the Bulls go after one or the other, they may instead go after someone like Turkolu or for example Manu Ginobli and if you offer enough years you may get a team like the Spurs not to match. Its all a tricky business. I don't doubt that Pierce would be ridiculous. Now if the Bulls involved some sort of sign and trade deal with JC (Don't know how it works) but JC, Chandler, and then AD or JYD for Pierce and Capfillers would at least make the Celtics think. I think Paxson is going to go after a big fish this offseason via trade and then try to sign one (It very well may be Crawford who he resigns instead) secondary scorer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AssHatSoxFan Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 If I were Paxson i would quit now and save myself the humiliation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted March 1, 2004 Share Posted March 1, 2004 There are too many guys who think they are the s*** on the Bulls. <_> Guess what kids! You are nothing until you play and win as a team. E-Rob Tyson Eddie Gill Crawford Get rid 3 of the 5 egos and they might save themselves from the draft lottery in the next few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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