NBA Draft Goss

[DBAHO]

From Hoopsworld, I know some ppl like Aboz and Jason will be interested in this,

 

1 Magic - Rebounding and interior dominance or an explosive playmaker: Emeka Okafor, Sebastian Telfair, Pavel Podkolzine and Jameer Nelson are the names Magic GM John Gabriel hints at, but will Gabe make the pick? The Magic are going through their motions and with eyes at a top three selection they are doing a lot of scouting.

2 Bulls - A Franchise Player: The Bulls have a lot of talent, but no one worth building the club around. The High Schooler experiment has turned them away from the hot "Schoolers" this year, so now we're talking Okafor, Nelson and possibly Josh Childress. Question is would the Bulls be willing to pack this pick and a player for a bigger name this summer? Most around the club say they do not want to miss the playoffs next year and their roster needs help now, not in two or three seasons. With no instant stars in this class, the Bulls may pass this pick down a few slots and get a veteran and a prospect versus another project.

3 Hawks - Someone who will draw fans... Dwight Howard is almost a lock to go to the Hawks, if he's there. If someone grabs him higher expect the Hawks to go after Pavel Podkolzine or Ivan Chiriaev. The Hawks want and need size, and those are the biggest upside guys with height on the board. Dark horses for the Hawks could be Ben Gordon or Sebastian Telfair, if they are still on the board, the Hawks need help at the point too.

4 Bobcats - A foundation... The first two years in Charlotte will be ugly, so their first draft needs to give them something to build around. If Sebastian Telfair is there, that's my choice, but Dwight Howard or 6-8 "Schooler" Josh Smith may be an answer too. Ben Gordon wouldn't be a horrible pick, and a reach for the Bobcats would be going after 6-8 Dukie Luol Deng, he needs more time to develop, but a Duke player being in Charlotte wouldn't hurt the fans base.

5 Wizards - Impact guy at any position... The Wizards are fairly set at every spot but Power Forward, it's unlikely Ernie Grunfeld goes "Schooler" but with Josh Smith looking like a prospect and the chance that Dwight Howard could slide, there may be a gamble thee, but seeing how the franchise is paying for Kwame Brown, a proven may be more likely even a Euro like 6-11 Andris Biedrins who is playing limited minutes in Europe is drawing comparisons to Darko Milicic. Biedrins may be the equivalent to a Euro High Schooler in his grasp of the NBA game, but a left handed forward can change the way plays are run and force guys to defend in different positions on the floor.

6 Suns - Size and Shooters. The Suns haven't shied away from the foreign players, so if Pavel Podkolzine or 7-3 Martynas Andriuskevicius both could be solid additions for the Suns. On the shooters front, there are a few notables, but none worth taking at #6, unless you think highly of Josh Childress, who is currently shooting 48% from the floor on 173 attempts, and roughly 42% from collegiate three on 61 attempts in the 17 games he's played, as a swingman type he may not have a role with Shawn Marion and Joe Johnson dominating the minutes. The Suns would be smart to address their size issue.

7 76ers - Impact player? What the 76ers need is new direction and management, but you don't get that from the draft. The 76ers could use a solid point- Eric Snow's days are numbered. Its doubtful Sebastian Telfair is here, but could you imagine a backcourt of Iverson and Telfair? Sick. Undersized, but sick none the less. The 76ers would be smart to look at an athletic SF type, Miami's Dairus Rice comes to mind, but #7 is WAY too high for Rice. At #7, the better prospects may be Andre Iguodala, he's leading his Arizona Wildcats in assists and steals for the season, and shooting better than 46% from the field. He's a big body that defends very well, and rebounds aggressively. When you have AI on your team, rebounding is important. 6-8 Dukie Luol Deng could fit here nicely as well.

8 Clippers - Point Guard. The Clips need a point in the worst way. Sports Illustrated claims the Clips are in love with Sebastian Telfair. Unless the Bulls trade down to the Clips, there is very little shot Telfair is on the board at #8 leaving the Clippers Ben Gordon, Devin Harris or 6-7 "Schooler" Shaun Livingston, who some call a point guard. Of the three Livingston is least prepared to run a NBA team, while Gordon may be gone, leaving Harris who may be a stretch to go this high

9 Warriors - Defenders? The Warriors don't have a lot of immediate needs, point is fairly set, swing guard spots are set, forwards are set, at #9 there won't be much at Center left so maybe the Warriors go best available? Andris Biedrins, a player they can develop slowly... 7'1 "Schooler" Ivan Chiriaev, who they have scouted a few times this year... 6-11"Schooler" LaMarcus Aldridge has surfaced on some scouting lists. Without clear needs this may be a stockpile pick add talent to the bench.

10 Raptors - Beef and Rebounding. 7-3 Martynas Andriuskevicius is likely to be there at #10. BYU's Rafael Araujo. 7-3 Ha Seung-Jin from Korea. 6-10 Anderson Varejão, a huge leap to go this high. At #10 in this class, you may go best available, and there are some likely guys with talent still here, namely Kris Humphries and Hakim Warrick - both play positions the Raptors have locked up, but depth is never a bad thing for the Raptors.

11 Heat - The Heat like the Warriors do not have many needs, don't expect the Heat to go "Schooler", that said Nevada's Kirk Snyder, Oregon senior Luke Jackson, 'Cuse swingman Hakim Warrick, or even Miami stud Darius Rice could shock people at this spot. 6-8 Dukie Luol Deng if he were still on the board would be a nice pick up for Miami, and he's coachable.

12 Cavaliers - The Cavs will likely go best on the board, at #12 there are only prospects not payers, don't be surprise to see them go after 6-11 "Schooler" LaMarcus Aldridge or 6-9 "Schooler" forward Marvin Williams, given the success they have had with LeBron. At #12 you go upside, and both guys have big upside.

13 SuperSonics - Just about everything. At #13, I grab the best talent, I can find leaving guys like 6-11 "Schooler" LaMarcus Aldridge , 7'1 "Schooler" Ivan Chiriaev, 7-3 Ha Seung-Jin from Korea even 6-3 Tarheel star Rashad McCants on the radar. Smart money says the Sonics go after size.

[southsider2k5]

Sign and trade deal. #1 or #2 pick and Hindlick or Crawford for Kobe? Anyone know the cap #'s to make something like that work?

[DBAHO]

Sign and trade deal.  #1 or #2 pick and Hindlick or Crawford for Kobe?  Anyone know the cap #'s to make something like that work?

Crawford's a restricted free agent, who'll most likely sign in Denver this off-season. Hinrich would only be makin bout 2 or 3 mill in the 2nd year of a 3 year deal with an option of a 4th. The Bulls will prob try to get a long term deal worked out next offseason with Kirk if he keeps progressin. Big news in Orlando is that Drew Gooden is a very good chance to be traded. If the Bulls end up with a higher pick than the Magic, Orlando's willin to trade Drew and their pick to move up to get Okafor or a stud point guard. Still think Kobe's gonna sign with the Clippers, if the Suns could move Jahidi White to free up enough cap room they're in with a very good shot of gettin him as well.

[southsider2k5]

Crawford's a restricted free agent, who'll most likely sign in Denver this off-season. Hinrich would only be makin bout 2 or 3 mill in the 2nd year of a 3 year deal with an option of a 4th. The Bulls will prob try to get a long term deal worked out next offseason with Kirk if he keeps progressin. Big news in Orlando is that Drew Gooden is a very good chance to be traded. If the Bulls end up with a higher pick than the Magic, Orlando's willin to trade Drew and their pick to move up to get Okafor or a stud point guard. Still think Kobe's gonna sign with the Clippers, if the Suns could move Jahidi White to free up enough cap room they're in with a very good shot of gettin him as well.

Well Chicago can't offer Kobe the money up front, but the Lakers can. So if they worked out a sign and trade deal where the Lakes give Kobe the max, and trade him to the Bulls I could see it happening. Kobe would get his chance at being the man, saving a franchise, and still be in the 3rd biggest media market in the US. Kobe would own this town, he wouldn't have to share it with Shaq. Plus the Lakers would get a great package to put around Shaq having a great guard and the highest pick they have had in decades to lay a foundation for the future.

 

It makes sense, I just don't know if it works financially.

[DBAHO]

Well Chicago can't offer Kobe the money up front, but the Lakers can.  So if they worked out a sign and trade deal where the Lakes give Kobe the max, and trade him to the Bulls I could see it happening.  Kobe would get his chance at being the man, saving a franchise, and still be in the 3rd biggest media market in the US.  Kobe would own this town, he wouldn't have to share it with Shaq.  Plus the Lakers would get a great package to put around Shaq having a great guard and the highest pick they have had in decades to lay a foundation for the future.

 

It makes sense, I just don't know if it works financially.

Depends what happens with Malone and Payton on the Lakers as well cap wise.

[HuskyCaucasian]

I dont see the Bulls keeping their first rounder unless they REALLY think that Okafor would fit perfectly into the line-up. I dont see that. If Okafor were to play PF, then Chandler would have to change to SF and that wont work. THat is, of course, unless they feel that Chandlers injury this season will be an ongoing problem and they plan on trading him this offseason.

[WSoxShuf]

Bring Gooden in, more KU players the better.

 

Hell get Pierce, Lafretz, Vaughn, Ostertag,Pollard and Collison.

[danman31]

I'd love to watch Jameer Nelson in a Bulls uniform. With that said we do have Hinrich. I never liked him much anyway.

[witesoxfan]

Well Chicago can't offer Kobe the money up front, but the Lakers can.  So if they worked out a sign and trade deal where the Lakes give Kobe the max, and trade him to the Bulls I could see it happening.  Kobe would get his chance at being the man, saving a franchise, and still be in the 3rd biggest media market in the US.  Kobe would own this town, he wouldn't have to share it with Shaq.  Plus the Lakers would get a great package to put around Shaq having a great guard and the highest pick they have had in decades to lay a foundation for the future.

 

It makes sense, I just don't know if it works financially.

That would be insane if the Bulls could pull that off.

 

Can you imagine Kobe in the Eastern Conference?

[SuperSteve]

I'd love to watch Jameer Nelson in a Bulls uniform. With that said we do have Hinrich. I never liked him much anyway.

So would I. I could see putting Hinrich at the 2, and then having Nelson play point. If I remember correctly, Kansas had Boche (sp?, help me out here WSoxShuf) as their point when he was in college.

[WSoxShuf]

Hinrich ran point with Boschee.

 

 

The last two years Aaron Miles, you know the nations leading assist man has been the pont.

[MurcieOne]

I think acquiring Allen Iverson is easier than getting Kobe. AI in Chicago would be amazing.

[Chisoxfn]

I still think Paxson should do whatever is necessary to get Kobe, but I would agree that AI would look good on the Bulls alongside Hinrich.

[MurcieOne]

I still think Paxson should do whatever is necessary to get Kobe, but I would agree that AI would look good on the Bulls alongside Hinrich.

AI would most likely be paired with JC wouldnt ya think?

[Chisoxfn]

AI would most likely be paired with JC wouldnt ya think?

I know Hinrich is a little smaller, but he's still the superior defensive player when compared to JC, plus I'd have to think JC would be part of the deal in a sign and trade.

 

Snow isn't very tall and Hinrich is a superior player to Snow. Him and Iverson let the Sixers to the Eastern Conference Finals. As long as the Bulls could keep Curry, Hinrich and have AI, I don't got a problem with it.

 

If they somehow can keep one of Chandler and the pick, even better.

[MurcieOne]

AI would most likely be paired with JC wouldnt ya think?

Kirk, E-Rob and our 1st(1 or 2) For AI and their 1st (8-12)

 

thoughts?

[Chisoxfn]

Kirk, E-Rob and our 1st(1 or 2) For AI and their 1st (8-12)

 

thoughts?

I don't think the Sixers do it. However, you do JC (resigned JC), Chandler, Ad or JYD for Iverson and I think they do it.

 

You could swap Chandler for the pick, although in that case, I agree with your assessment, the Bulls should get the Sixesr 1st round pick. With that pick, I'd probably draft Luke Jackson out of the University of Oregon.

 

If its a little higher then where Jackson projects, then It be a different scenario, but I'd look for a 2 or 3.

[MurcieOne]

I don't think the Sixers do it.  However, you do JC (resigned JC), Chandler, Ad or JYD for Iverson and I think they do it.

 

You could swap Chandler for the pick, although in that case, I agree with your assessment, the Bulls should get the Sixesr 1st round pick.  With that pick, I'd probably draft Luke Jackson out of the University of Oregon. 

 

If its a little higher then where Jackson projects, then It be a different scenario, but I'd look for a 2 or 3.

DOnt ya think AI and Kirk would make a VERY small backcourt... there would be some serious mismatches....

[Chisoxfn]

DOnt ya think AI and Kirk would make a VERY small backcourt... there would be some serious mismatches....

My point is Snow and Iverson is a small backcourt and its worked very well for them.

 

Plus Crawford plays absolutely no defense and is an offense first player, just like AI (Although Iverson is a very respectable defensive player who almost every year leads the league in steals).

 

While shorter, they would be a solid backcourt, even defensively. Against the taller guards, the Bulls would have a quickness mismatch and if they had two legit bigmen, they could in a sense stop the taller guards from taking advantage of them.

 

I think Hinrich is like 6'3, which isn't incredibly short for a 2 guard, especially since he's a very good defensive player.

[DBAHO]

I think if Atlanta can't draft Dwight Howard, they are really goin to make a big play for AI this offseason. He'll put butts in seats, which is what they really need in Hot-Lanta. Chicago would be a betta team with Hinrich instead of Crawford. I think Skiles wants to improve this team's D badly, hence why guys like Fizer are not gettin any playin time cos they can't play any D at all.

[Chisoxfn]

And Skiles has benched Erob until he is willing to take it to the hole offensively.

 

If Erob takes it to the hole and gets agressive, I'd say he has a shot at being one of the better 3's in the NBA.

[MurcieOne]

And Skiles has benched Erob until he is willing to take it to the hole offensively.

 

If Erob takes it to the hole and gets agressive, I'd say he has a shot at being one of the better 3's in the NBA.

Jason you gotta let the E-Rob dream go!!!! He's not gonna pan out in Chicago!!

[DBAHO]

Jason you gotta let the E-Rob dream go!!!! He's not gonna pan out in Chicago!!

He could be selected by Charlotte in the Expansion draft this offseason. Any1 know how long his contract to go is?

[Chisoxfn]

He could be selected by Charlotte in the Expansion draft this offseason. Any1 know how long his contract to go is?

A while, although I firmly believe one of Erob or JYD will be in Charlotte next year.

 

Mark, personally i'd rather have Erob then JYD, but thats just me. Erob is a pretty darn good spot shooter, can't say that about JYD.

 

I'd like to see the Bulls lose JYD or Erob's contract and then use the other along with Chandler and maybe someone else to add a good player.

[DBAHO]

A while, although I firmly believe one of Erob or JYD will be in Charlotte next year.

 

Mark, personally i'd rather have Erob then JYD, but thats just me.  Erob is a pretty darn good spot shooter, can't say that about JYD. 

 

I'd like to see the Bulls lose JYD or Erob's contract and then use the other along with Chandler and maybe someone else to add a good player.

I think if it's a choice b/w the Junkyard Dog and E-Rob, the Dog will be stayin in Chicago. He's a energy guy off da bench, and gets lots of boards and plays good D.