Queen Prawn Posted March 9, 2004 Share Posted March 9, 2004 VANCOUVER, British Columbia (AP) -- Colorado Avalanche forward Steve Moore will miss the rest of the season with a broken neck after a hit by Vancouver's Todd Bertuzzi that prompted a police investigation. Moore also sustained a concussion and deep facial cuts, the Avalanche said Tuesday. He will remain hospitalized in Vancouver indefinitely, Colorado trainer Pat Karns said. Bertuzzi has been suspended indefinitely pending a hearing at the NHL office in Toronto on Wednesday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted March 9, 2004 Author Share Posted March 9, 2004 Bertuzzi should be suspended for the remainder of the season. f*** the Canucks!! :fyou This is right on par with the Marty McSorley stickwork on Donald Brashear a couple of years back. Totally cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 Bad play, piss poor hockey effort, asult yes, bu bye for season and playoffs, yes I hate him more than most, but he did what he felt he had to do and therefore I can't crucify him beyony some level. He feel s***ty I'm sure and he's a douch, but he is one of many to f*** up bad...move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 Bertuzzi should get some hard jail time out of this. Enough with the suspended sentence crap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 The DA in BC said it might be tough to press charges in this case due to the fact that Bertuzzi didn't hit Moore with his stick, like McSorely did. The stick is considered to be a lethal weapon. So who knows Bertuzzi may get off with just a suspension. If so the NHL needs to step up and hammer him with a huge fine and a very long suspension. McSorely got a 1 year suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 The DA in BC said it might be tough to press charges in this case due to the fact that Bertuzzi didn't hit Moore with his stick, like McSorely did. The stick is considered to be a lethal weapon. So who knows Bertuzzi may get off with just a suspension. If so the NHL needs to step up and hammer him with a huge fine and a very long suspension. McSorely got a 1 year suspension. You'd think because Bertuzzi drove Moore's head into the ice as he fell, that they could consider the hard surface of the ice as a "weopon". That's probably what caused his broken neck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moochpuppy Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 The DA in BC said it might be tough to press charges in this case due to the fact that Bertuzzi didn't hit Moore with his stick, like McSorely did. The stick is considered to be a lethal weapon. So who knows Bertuzzi may get off with just a suspension. If so the NHL needs to step up and hammer him with a huge fine and a very long suspension. McSorely got a 1 year suspension. It's still assult whether it's with a stick or fists. I know Bertuzzi is supposed to be this hockey tough guy but to do this from behind is just cowardly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 I agree it was totally a cowardly act and Bertuzzi should face charges. Just don't know if he will or not. I watched the video and its tough to tell when he would have broken his neck, wether it was from Bertuzzi or the 3 or 4 others jumping on top of Bertuzzi and Moore. I hope Bertuzzi is banished from hockey but we will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 Think of the TV ratings next time these two teams play. it's exactly what hockey needs I think boxers should have to skate every couple rounds to make boxing better. :fyou the fighting. It isn't necesary. Hit the guy hard with a check. Play good tough hockey, and end the goon circus act. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 First off let me say I hope the guy recovers fully. Second off I think I defend Bertuzzi here. I mean if they want to change the rules in hockey then change the rules, but right now this is what hockey players do. They cheap shot...they hit a guy from behind...they slash...they check hard from behind...they trip...when something bad happens...then everyone wants to change s***. Bertuzzi sucker punched him...that happens almost every game in hockey. I don't think bertuzzi knew that his punch knocked him out...He punched him and was gonna take him down to the ice. It just so happened that the punch knocked him out and his head fell forward and got driven to the ice...It was an accident. Was Bertuzzi trying to figth him?? Hell Yeah. Was he trying to punish him? Hell yeah...Was the end result his intention...hell no!! This is how they play hockey though...until they change everything and say no fighting at all...no retaliation s***. If that punch wouldn't have knocked him out and he would have just fell to the ice and put his hands down and then rolled over and started fighting back..then none of us prolly would have even heard about it. I just hate that the NHL is going to try and make an example here when what they should do is either change the way hockey is played or expect these kind of things to happen once in awhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 Sorry, but Bertuzzi's hit was over the top and uncalled for. He hit him from behind and that's a coward's way of fighting. Be a man and fight face to face. When this is the end of a fight, it's way over the top. Bertuzzi deserves what he is getting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moochpuppy Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 Bertuzzi sucker punched him...that happens almost every game in hockey. I don't think bertuzzi knew that his punch knocked him out...He punched him and was gonna take him down to the ice. It just so happened that the punch knocked him out and his head fell forward and got driven to the ice...It was an accident. Was Bertuzzi trying to figth him?? Hell Yeah. Was he trying to punish him? Hell yeah...Was the end result his intention...hell no!! It's all fun and dandy until someone breaks their neck. Of course we wouldn't be talking about this if Moore simply fell to the ice and only gotten his ass kicked but that's not what happened. If you're going to jump someone from behind, sucker punch someone, slash someone or whatever....you are taking the chance of a player getting seriously hurt. Bertuzzi took a chance and it didn't come out well. He should have to pay the piper or get the Hell out of hockey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniBob72 Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 There's no defense for what Bertuzzi did. You want to fight him? Pull on his jersey and tell him to drop the gloves. It was not his intention to fight Moore, it was to hurt him. And Moore's hit on Naslund was not dirty. Even as May said after the game of the Naslund hit, even if you hit our guys clean, we're going to get you. What the hell does that mean? What a bunch of crap. Bertuzzi should be gone for a full 80 games, but he won't be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 TORONTO (Reuters) - A vicious on-ice punch knocked scandal, politics and foreign affairs off the front pages of Canadian newspapers on Wednesday, tarnishing the iconic status of Canada's national pastime and prompting a debate on how far violence in hockey should be allowed to go. Reuters Photo The punch, a revenge attack by a star Vancouver Canucks player for an incident at a game last month, left a rookie Colorado Avalanche player with a concussion and a fractured neck, and prompted banner headlines, grumbling Web sites and endless televised reruns of the ugly attack. "Canada's troubled game suffers yet another blow," the Globe and Mail said in a commentary that, with pictures and a sidebar story, took up almost all the front page. "It's really a dark moment for hockey." said the Toronto Star, Canada's biggest-selling newspaper, which called for an end to hockey's culture of violence. Brawls in hockey games have almost become an integral part of the sport. They are so popular that a Manitoba impresario is promoting a fights-only event, with a promised prize of $100,000 to the best pummeler in a two-minute on-ice match. The first fight is scheduled for August in Minnesota and tickets go on sale next month. But Monday night's punch by the Canucks' Todd Bertuzzi went far beyond the average hockey brawl, and Vancouver police are investigating his attack on Colorado's Steve Moore. "We have an obligation once a complaint is received to conduct an investigation into an incident of this nature," police said on Tuesday. "Regardless of the fact that this involves players in the National Hockey League, this will be a routine assault investigation." Bertuzzi punched Moore from behind, and then smashed his head to the ice, leaving him lying in a pool of blood. Bertuzzi faces disciplinary action from the National Hockey League, and could be suspended or banned from the league. Moore had been targeted by Vancouver throughout the game after a incident last month in which he injured Bertuzzi's teammate, Markus Naslund, with a hit to the head. IS IT A GAME? But the real question in Canada is whether violence in hockey has become too big a part of the game, and whether it's time for a major crackdown, including assault charges against Bertuzzi. CBC radio pointed out that an angry worker who punched a colleague in the head, fracturing his neck, would face criminal action, and not just a workplace disciplinary hearing. An editorial in the National Post said it should be up to the National Hockey League to police incidents on the ice, but it urged the NHL to "send the strongest possible message." The Toronto Star invited readers to e-mail their thoughts and printed a selection of some 50 views on its Web site. It also rolled out Canadian hockey icon Wayne Gretzky for his final verdict on the matter. "I'm sure they're going to take the right disciplinary actions to what happened and send a message that we don't want it to happen again," said the retired Gretzky, considered by many to be the greatest player the game has ever seen. Wow, an all fight hockey game. Perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Controlled Chaos Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 There's no defense for what Bertuzzi did. You want to fight him? Pull on his jersey and tell him to drop the gloves. It was not his intention to fight Moore, it was to hurt him. And Moore's hit on Naslund was not dirty. Even as May said after the game of the Naslund hit, even if you hit our guys clean, we're going to get you. What the hell does that mean? What a bunch of crap. Bertuzzi should be gone for a full 80 games, but he won't be. I guess I said it wrong where as I'm not really defending his actions cause I think they're right...I just think that Hockey has asked for this and they got it. Yes it was a cheap shot...but people if you watch hockey there are ALWAYS cheap shots...and this one seriously hurt someone. So they are making a big deal out of it. If they want to set an example here then I say do it...Ban him from hockey for life....and put it in the books that any cheap shot such as this one by anyone...and that includes all the STARS will be banned for life....and I'm not talking if the guy gets hurt. I'm talking if you sucker punch a guy when he isn't looking then you are banned! you crosscheck a guy....then you are banned....you try to keep punching a guy when he is down...then you are banned...you hit a guy when he is defenseless then you are banned. I just don't think it will work in hockey....so they will make a thing out of this....and in the mean time another hundred more sucker punches will be thrown until someone else gets seriously hurt...adnt hen will go over it again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 Everyone was talking about this at school, I haven't seen it yet, can someone link me to a video please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 When hockey allows and even encourages fighting, it is admitting defeat as a sport. It must believe that hockey is not exciting enough to attract fans without 5 minute intermissions for a fight. I don't like hockey games that turn into Tyson on Ice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 Here is the link to the video of it. http://www.ussvision.com/bertuzzi.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonWeltall Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 Hockey rules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 Here is the link to the video of it. http://www.ussvision.com/bertuzzi.htm thanks jester It was worse than I had even though, that's f***ing terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 No problem... I wonder if his broken neck came from Bertuzzi or when everyone jumped ontop of them.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 No problem... I wonder if his broken neck came from Bertuzzi or when everyone jumped ontop of them.... The guys fall was absorbed by his head hitting the ice. That is when he broke his neck, no doubt. Basically an extreme whiplash injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 How could hockey survive without this excitement? If he is allowed to play anytime this season, I will never watch NHL hockey again. I hate seeing a game I love turn into the f*cking roller derby or WWF. If a fan did that, we would be screaming they be sent to jail for 5 years. There are too many no talent goons allowed to play in the league. Take away fighting and you will see some excellent clean hits, like in football. It's BS to think that a game cannot be physical without fighting. look at golf oops I mean football. And if anyone disagrees with me I'll come there and kick 100% of their ass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 How could hockey survive without this excitement? If he is allowed to play anytime this season, I will never watch NHL hockey again. I hate seeing a game I love turn into the f*cking roller derby or WWF. If a fan did that, we would be screaming they be sent to jail for 5 years. There are too many no talent goons allowed to play in the league. Take away fighting and you will see some excellent clean hits, like in football. It's BS to think that a game cannot be physical without fighting. look at golf oops I mean football. And if anyone disagrees with me I'll come there and kick 100% of their ass Bertuzzi will not play this season, I guarentee it. He probably will miss a good chunk of next year as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 10, 2004 Share Posted March 10, 2004 Bertuzzi will not play this season, I guarentee it. He probably will miss a good chunk of next year as well. damn you, if you keep replying to all my postsm, I'll never have as many posts as you I'm hearing a number of hockey commentators saying 1. It was an accident. Looked worse than what it was. He tugged on his sweater a couple times to instigate the fight. The fall wasn't in his control. 2. He'll be back for the playoffs. I only get bits and pieces down here. With a local team now, I hear more coverage but not enough to get a decent feel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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