JDsDirtySox Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 Article by Ken Rosenthal from the Sporting News can be found on yahoo sports. Kris Benson and cash for Jon Rauch and Josh Stewart. This could be an interesting idea if KW would be willing to take on a little more payroll. http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news?slug=psst...v=tsn&type=lgns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 I'd do it in a heartbeat. I'm not a huge Benson fan, but when healthy he can be pretty solid. Its no secret I don't like Rauch and while Stewart is solid, I don't see him becoming an ace so I say why not. But I think there are better options out there then Kris Benson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 No. We don't need ANOTHER $5-6 million risk. We already have two on board in Koch and Konerko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 No. We don't need ANOTHER $5-6 million risk. We already have two on board in Koch and Konerko. But it's only a one-year risk. Would we really need to give up both Stewart and Rauch to get Benson, though? Hell, look at what the Cubs got, and all they really gave up was Bobby Hill. I'd do it for Stewart. Benson, when healthy in 2000, was very good. Plus, he wouldn't be relied upon as a number 1, hell not even a top 3 guy. He could be placed in that fourth or fifth spot, a spot where he could thrive without much pressure. I'd like to see KW get another starter; I'd be happy to get Benson and cash, as long as we don't give up too much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 Benson was healthy 4 years ago. Why would we want to take on a $6M risk and lose two pitchers for him. Sounds like the time not so long ago when we last got took by the Pirates for a supposed stud starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 Id rather eat my own vomit. Have we not learned you do not trade pitching for pitching. Hi, we are back in 2001 and trading Wells, Fogg, for stud Todd Ritchie. We dont have money, this is pointless. Rosenthal should be shot. SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted March 15, 2004 Share Posted March 15, 2004 Correct me if I'm wrong but Benson's 6.3 million salary comes off the books at the end of this season. U lose Koch, Benson and Maggs, that's a combined 25 million which would allow KW much more payroll flexibility to go afta free agents or to possibly resign Maggs. That's the only way I can see KW's logic for this possible deal. Although if we only have to pay 3 mill, since Pittsburgh pays the rest, I'm all for it. Coops could do sumthin with him like he did with Loaiza I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 I'd do it in a heartbeat. I'm not a huge Benson fan, but when healthy he can be pretty solid. Its no secret I don't like Rauch and while Stewart is solid, I don't see him becoming an ace so I say why not. But I think there are better options out there then Kris Benson. Damn Jason, is there a trade you wouldn't make right now? You would trade for Griffey, Benson and pick up Singleton today? Are you just itchin to make a move or do you really think all of these would make good moves? Edit: I didn't read far enough.... You would also trade Konerko for Perez or Ishii and Ventura? And for Junior Spivey? You must have caught some baseball virus in Arizona. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 i'd go for it at the beginning of last season this guy really showed that there is some untapped potential. Coop did a great job with E-Lo and i'd love to give him a shot with benson since so far Rauch and Stewart havent really panned out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 I'd do it but eigher just giving up Rauch or Stewart, not both. I'm sure Coop could really help Benson find that hidden potential that he knows he has and perform better. Hell, I'd give up Danny Wrong straight up for Benson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 I'd do it... I think a healthy Benson is better than a healthy Ruach or Stewart... a 1 year experiment wouldn't be bad at all. I think that the Bucs need to take a portion of that salary though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Damn Jason, is there a trade you wouldn't make right now? You would trade for Griffey, Benson and pick up Singleton today? Are you just itchin to make a move or do you really think all of these would make good moves? Edit: I didn't read far enough.... You would also trade Konerko for Perez or Ishii and Ventura? And for Junior Spivey? You must have caught some baseball virus in Arizona. LOL Lol, I'm just not very pleased with relying on two unknowns in a sense for our 4th and 5th spot. But I don't think I'd actually make the Benson deal because the Sox have a budget, and I think there would be better options. But I'm up for any deal that gets the Sox extra starting pitching, assuming its good and assuming we aren't giving up any top prospects. And if Spivey is on the block for cheap, why not get him cause Harris sure as hell isn't opening up many eyes But your right, I'd like to see a few changes made if they are actually improvements and don't cost much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 And if Spivey is on the block for cheap, why not get him cause Harris sure as hell isn't opening up many eyes Eh... I rather stick with a younger Uribe who has opened some eyes.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 no way benson gets hurt every 20 seconds. he's never really dominated Stewart and something else. wouldn't give up on Rauch yet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillieHarris2 Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 i think i would do this trade because its not like this guy has had major shoulder problems. in the article it said he was coming off "shoulder trouble" i think it would be worth the risk because rauch hasnt done much for us, plus if benson is healthy he has good potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 Wow, about 3 years ago today there's no way in hell any of us would make that trade. Hell, it wouldn't even have been mentioned w/ Rauch being our top prospect at the time. Funny how things can change in such a short time. Too bad we have to be on the bad end of this change. Rauch looked so good and I really thought at the time that he'd be our #1 or 2 starter for many years to come. Now he's just fighting for the last spot in our rotation, and probably won't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Bartman's my idol Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 I like Benson, he always kicks the Cubs asses, though he does have a bad arm. On the plus side, it's his free agent year, and he might want to go out and impress to get a big contract. I don't want to give up both pitchers mentioned, however, you haven't heard much from spring training other than Rauch. In regards to Junior Spivey, I would rather have Junior Griffey, but I don't think I want to go into the season with Willie Harris as my starting second basemen, Rowand would be better as a 4th outfielder, and I think Griff would have an outstanding season, coming back to the AL with something to prove. If Cincy would pick up most of the contract as Pittsburgh, and I don't have to give up a major prospect, then I would do both. But again, its not my $$$. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 16, 2004 Share Posted March 16, 2004 i think i would do this trade because its not like this guy has had major shoulder problems. in the article it said he was coming off "shoulder trouble" i think it would be worth the risk because rauch hasnt done much for us, plus if benson is healthy he has good potential. But he has had major shoulder problems. IIRC, he's had a major surgery or two on probably his labrums and his elbows, and is not worth the risk at $6 mill. He can be a solid pitcher when healthy...but I'd rather have a mediocre and sometimes bad pitcher in Rauch who could still be a pretty solid starter then Benson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 But it's only a one-year risk. Would we really need to give up both Stewart and Rauch to get Benson, though? Hell, look at what the Cubs got, and all they really gave up was Bobby Hill. I'd do it for Stewart. Benson, when healthy in 2000, was very good. Plus, he wouldn't be relied upon as a number 1, hell not even a top 3 guy. He could be placed in that fourth or fifth spot, a spot where he could thrive without much pressure. I'd like to see KW get another starter; I'd be happy to get Benson and cash, as long as we don't give up too much. 2 words.... TODD RICHIE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 Griffey stated that he will be traded somewhere. Cinci's trying to get out from under that contract. I've always liked Benson, but he's a major risk at $6M, even for one year. Though, I haven't heard anything about how he's feeling this spring. On a final note, Rowand's gonna rock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 On a final note, Rowand's gonna rock! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 I'm just going to throw this one out there and see what you people think of this idea. Konerko for Benson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 I'm just going to throw this one out there and see what you people think of this idea. Konerko for Benson. Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 I'm just going to throw this one out there and see what you people think of this idea. Konerko for Benson. Pitt would never swing that trade for Paulie. Pitt is trying to cut payroll not add it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Bartman's my idol Posted March 17, 2004 Share Posted March 17, 2004 How bout Frank and Olivo for Benson and Kendall? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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