Heads22 Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 Anyone ever done one of these? We are on day 4 in our human anatomy class. We took 3 days to skin the cats and eliminate some fascia, and today we looked at muscles under the chin and neck including the sternomastoid and the mylohyoid. Our cat has the mylohyoid and the diagastric really well defined and I guess we did a good job. You get over the fact you're cutting into someone's pet (possibly PA's) really quickly. For anyone wanting to see what wedid today: http://fp.dl.kent.edu/hyork/catmusnk.htm The muscles on our cat are darker and more well defined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 The only thing I dissected in a science class was a sheep's eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 18, 2004 Share Posted March 18, 2004 Heads, I will do that next year. I was going to take anatomy this year, but figured there would be too many juniors in there for my liking(me being a sophomore and all). Should be fun. However, I think the part of dissections I dislike the most is the scent of formaldehyde. It is horrendous and you never get used to the scent unlike almost everything else. It gives me the chills every time I think about the scent. I would have to say it is very close to the worst smell ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxy Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Icky. But the worst for me was human cadaver lab.... :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted March 19, 2004 Author Share Posted March 19, 2004 Heads, I will do that next year. I was going to take anatomy this year, but figured there would be too many juniors in there for my liking(me being a sophomore and all). Should be fun. However, I think the part of dissections I dislike the most is the scent of formaldehyde. It is horrendous and you never get used to the scent unlike almost everything else. It gives me the chills every time I think about the scent. I would have to say it is very close to the worst smell ever. I got used to it quickly.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Icky. But the worst for me was human cadaver lab.... :puke Ewww, you guys are all gross. :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Anyone ever done one of these? We are on day 4 in our human anatomy class. We took 3 days to skin the cats and eliminate some fascia, and today we looked at muscles under the chin and neck including the sternomastoid and the mylohyoid. Our cat has the mylohyoid and the diagastric really well defined and I guess we did a good job. You get over the fact you're cutting into someone's pet (possibly PA's) really quickly. For anyone wanting to see what wedid today: http://fp.dl.kent.edu/hyork/catmusnk.htm The muscles on our cat are darker and more well defined. Ya, I did that as well as disected a pig. Today in my bio lab we worked on live goldfish and mice and no we didn't harm them. Was pretty cool..mainly cause lab is pretty kick back. All I remember from disecting is that the crap they use to prevent the animals from rotting absolutely reaks. I also remember disecting it and throwing a part of the animal at one of my friends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 I got used to it quickly.... Your just a freak of nature Alex cause no one is supposed to get used to that nasty smell. :puke Unless of course your own natural aroma is worsein that case I can see why it didn't bother ya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Well this summer I had the pleasure of helping my buddy castrate his bulls. I helped cut the bulls from the cows. Drive them down the chute to the gate, lock 'em in, rope the back leg, pull it back, and watch the cutter cut off the sack, reach up and pull down the balls and toss them aside. There is only the smallest amount of blood. Open the gate and off they run. After that, a disection would be a piece of cake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Well this summer I had the pleasure of helping my buddy castrate his bulls. I helped cut the bulls from the cows. Drive them down the chute to the gate, lock 'em in, rope the back leg, pull it back, and watch the cutter cut off the sack, reach up and pull down the balls and toss them aside. There is only the smallest amount of blood. Open the gate and off they run. After that, a disection would be a piece of cake. Thats it, I'm now joining PITA...that shouldn't happen to anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted March 19, 2004 Author Share Posted March 19, 2004 Thats it, I'm now joining PITA...that shouldn't happen to anyone. Mmmm.....pita....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Thats it, I'm now joining PITA...that shouldn't happen to anyone. Tomorrow morning about 200 head will be taking a trip away from the ranch and sent to what the cows and steers will think is heaven. They are heading to the feed yard for 5 months of munching on grain before they will show up on a table near you. PETA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 I've dissected a frog, owl, worm. Never any big animals like cat, pig etc.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 I've dissected a frog, owl, worm. Never any big animals like cat, pig etc.. I have bone a pig and a frog. Also seen a baby shark done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 I cut up a chicken the other day. It was honey bar-b-q flavored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighHeat45 Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 my mom is a nurse and when she was in med school she had to watch a dissection of a dead human :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 my mom is a nurse and when she was in med school she had to watch a dissection of a dead human :puke My wife is a X-ray tech. Surgery with a live human isn't a walk in the park either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 I cut up a chicken the other day. It was honey bar-b-q flavored Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 i went to a very small private school so i got to watch someone else on video do the dissecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Heads, I will do that next year. I was going to take anatomy this year, but figured there would be too many juniors in there for my liking(me being a sophomore and all). Should be fun. However, I think the part of dissections I dislike the most is the scent of formaldehyde. It is horrendous and you never get used to the scent unlike almost everything else. It gives me the chills every time I think about the scent. I would have to say it is very close to the worst smell ever. If the dissections are being done in high school or college settings using material purchased from Carolina Biological, Fisher, etc., I can pretty much guarantee you they are not delivered in formaldehyde (suspected carcinogen, known tumor inducer, crystalyzes brain cells etc. nasty stuff in terms- of long-term exposure). The school material is usually packaged in a preservative cocktail branded as Karo-Safe after it has been hard-preserved in formaldehyde, tha vascular system is double-or tripple latex injected (to distinguish arteries and veins), and then switched ovver to ethanol. Karo-Safe is mostlyalcohol, with lots of "purfumes" to mask the decay, and some glycerine-like compounds in it to keep the alcohol from evaporating. The stuff is not nearly as effective as formaldehyde, but is a lot safer to work with. I was a comparative vertebrate anatomy lab TA for a number of years in grad school, so slicing up dogfish (sharks), mudpuppies (like a big newt), cats, and sheep was the main order of business. The most amazing thing to me witth something like the cats is how DIFFERENT they all are internally (and we're much the same). The anatomy diagrams in texts are idealized textbook rrepresenttations of a wide range of natural variation in organ and tissue size, shape, and placement. Extra blood vessels - sometimes completely redundant portions of systems, were actually pretty common. I got my start in computer-delivered sciende education while doinng the CVA thing. I got reallly tird of setting up lab practicals, having students knocking dissection pins out of structures, the stink, etc., and started taking digital photos of the dessections and creating early virtual dissections to use for testing (see screen grabb of a mudpuppy heart below). This was back in 1991-1993 or so, so it was very much ahead of the virtual ed. pack. Sonovab****, I made squat doing it while people who came out with the essentially the same thing a year or two later made money marketing it. *grumble* To ease anyones guilt: The cats are all impounded strays slated to be destryed by the pounds and very humanely euthanized. There is no dissection cat farm in India or wherever where these things are reared jst for this, and thre is no black market cat industry stealing Fluffy in the middle of the night. Ain't nobody been listening to Bob Barker when he's been telling you to spay and neuter those pets?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 In grammar school we dissected a frog. In HS, I dissected a frog, pig and a grasshopper. Very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 If the dissections are being done in high school or college settings using material purchased from Carolina Biological, Fisher, etc., I can pretty much guarantee you they are not delivered in formaldehyde (suspected carcinogen, known tumor inducer, crystalyzes brain cells etc. nasty stuff in terms- of long-term exposure). The school material is usually packaged in a preservative cocktail branded as Karo-Safe after it has been hard-preserved in formaldehyde, tha vascular system is double-or tripple latex injected (to distinguish arteries and veins), and then switched ovver to ethanol. Karo-Safe is mostlyalcohol, with lots of "purfumes" to mask the decay, and some glycerine-like compounds in it to keep the alcohol from evaporating. The stuff is not nearly as effective as formaldehyde, but is a lot safer to work with. I was a comparative vertebrate anatomy lab TA for a number of years in grad school, so slicing up dogfish (sharks), mudpuppies (like a big newt), cats, and sheep was the main order of business. The most amazing thing to me witth something like the cats is how DIFFERENT they all are internally (and we're much the same). The anatomy diagrams in texts are idealized textbook rrepresenttations of a wide range of natural variation in organ and tissue size, shape, and placement. Extra blood vessels - sometimes completely redundant portions of systems, were actually pretty common. I got my start in computer-delivered sciende education while doinng the CVA thing. I got reallly tird of setting up lab practicals, having students knocking dissection pins out of structures, the stink, etc., and started taking digital photos of the dessections and creating early virtual dissections to use for testing (see screen grabb of a mudpuppy heart below). This was back in 1991-1993 or so, so it was very much ahead of the virtual ed. pack. Sonovab****, I made squat doing it while people who came out with the essentially the same thing a year or two later made money marketing it. *grumble* To ease anyones guilt: The cats are all impounded strays slated to be destryed by the pounds and very humanely euthanized. There is no dissection cat farm in India or wherever where these things are reared jst for this, and thre is no black market cat industry stealing Fluffy in the middle of the night. Ain't nobody been listening to Bob Barker when he's been telling you to spay and neuter those pets?!? Very nice read. Melikey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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