moochpuppy Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Man, my mouth is full from all these extra words. Where did I say this? I said : That's a lot different. Who is anybody? Is incest wrong? Pedophilia? Who are we or society to say it's wrong? Before I get more words put in my mouth - No, I'm not comparing gays to these. If something is not right or okay what else would it be but wrong. As far as the "Anybody" I'm talking Homosexuals, like 99% of this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 **No, people that call things "wrong" without a SHRED of indisputable evidence are what's wrong with this country Because a majority doesn't do it, it must be wrong? That's the most idiotic statement I've ever heard. You're very good at taking things out of context. I only raise that the majority doesn't beleive that same sex marriages are proper - and I only say that there would be a whole lot more same sex marriages if it were "right". I'm not basing my entire argument on that, I'm only using that as a point to say that if it were "ok" or morally "right", it would be much more prevelent and wouldn't be the hot topic that it is. Also, just as a point, take a poll, out of a newspaper, and depending on what region in the country you are polling, the results change drastically. Take all 265,000,000 people in this country, I guarantee you that if you have a straight "yes/no gay marriage is wrong" question, a greater majority will say it's not proper. Leave that crap out about how it will effect their lives out of the question that you used, and the results become drastically different. OF COURSE, it won't effect my life one iota. I just think it's wrong based on my belief system. And to each his own... I may think people are wrong on a lot of things, I think my wife's wrong on a lot of things, but I certainly don't think any less of her. And I don't gay people either. I've had a couple of people that I would consider friends that were gay, and they knew that I thought they were wrong but our friendship was based on more then just that, I can overlook that and still think they're wrong. So do you still think I'm a big intolerant Christian jerk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 If something is not right or okay what else would it be but wrong. As far as the "Anybody" I'm talking Homosexuals, like 99% of this thread. Try again. You said this: If it's THEIR (not yours) lifechoice then how can it be wrong? I take this as if it's someone's lifechoice that automatically makes it not wrong. I was just pointing out that it's not true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 So do you still think I'm a big intolerant Christian jerk? I didn't know you were a Christian now? Since when? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moochpuppy Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Try again. You said this: I take this as if it's someone's lifechoice that automatically makes it not wrong. I was just pointing out that it's not true. It's true if it's not wrong for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 I didn't know you were a Christian now? Since when? You wait all this time to jump in and that's all you can come up with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 You wait all this time to jump in and that's all you can come up with? I was at lunch. Now quit stalking me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 I was at lunch. Now quit stalking me. Sounds like a good idea. Lunch. Not stalking. I'll be back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Sounds like a good idea. Lunch. Not stalking. I'll be back. Eat at Mike's for me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Eat at Mike's for me! I couldn't. It's Friday. I went to Sharks - got the perch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 I couldn't. It's Friday. I went to Sharks - got the perch. I forgot about the whole no meat thing.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxy Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Our college campus chapter of PRIDE hooked me up with a copy of it and I posted it on my web page. We're reading another fabulous Wink book in my Ethics course that is relevent here, The Powers that Be. It's about how Jesus subverted the conventional power systems that thrived on oppressing minorities (women, lepers, etc). Anyway, I would go so far as to say that in the modern day that would be extended to homosexuals. I highly recommend this book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moochpuppy Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 I forgot about the whole no meat thing.... What no meat thing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 What no meat thing? Mr Eye has no meat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 Mr Eye has no meat. :dips*** :finger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
munkey51 Posted March 19, 2004 Share Posted March 19, 2004 I dont know how old most of you all are, but when i was in grade school there was this HUGE rush of kids to go get all of those books called GOOSEBUMPS! now i thought they were cool when i was that young! but after about a month of them being out they wouldnt even let kids bring them to school to read on their own!!!! but yet that princeple goes on to say that what one family sees as unacceptable another doesnt!!! and that makes this book about a gay guy okay but goosebumps not okay, this is what i think :fyou !!! let the kids choose the books dont force somthing like this on them!!! and personally i think if i had a kid and they gave him/her this book to read i would burn it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moochpuppy Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 let the kids choose the books dont force somthing like this on them!!! Hmmm....isn't this what happened in the first place? and personally i think if i had a kid and they gave him/her this book to read i would burn it!! Way to let the kids choose. :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 Public schools are funded by many people who support and don't support alternative lifestyles. Shouldn't those who don't support it have as much of a voice as those who do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 The same people that encourage these types of books on the basis of nondiscrimination and diversity are the same that won't allow a teacher to even offer abstinence as an option to preventing diseases and pregnancies. This isn't just accepting homosexuality and being tolerant of it, it's encouraging it. I wonder how many bibles are in this school's library. I would bet not one. Diversity? Ha! DING DING DING!!! Right on the money! Liberals in America seem to have no problem trying to stamp out every single reference to Christianity they can find but they are just as quick to promote the teaching of a deviant lifestyle under the banner of diversity. Diversity means being all inclusive not just what one side wants to see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 (Note: I don't hate, dislike, or anything else people who practice homosexuality, but I would say that they're in the wrong for it anyway. It's their lifestyle choice. So please don't take this post that I hate folks like that). Funny it wasn't a choice for me. I tried to choose to be straight. Never worked though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 I can choose to cheat on my wife, and that is a wrong choice. Period. See: 10 commandments, thou shalt not commit adultry. People can have same sex marriages, and it's wrong, period. See: marriage is between man and woman references in Bible. But I will not hate someone for doing something wrong. That was my point. All I am saying is they are wrong for what they are doing, but I don't hate for their wrong choices. Here's the thing dude. Chances are, the love of my life will be a guy. When I find that person, I want to spend the rest of my life in a committed, mutual, monogamous respectful relationship. Or as breeders often refer to it - marriage. I don't think that I should not be allowed to be in one because we're two guys. If the state recognizes it - I don't care. I pray and hope that God will. You may say otherwise, but I do what I need to in order to make my peace with God. And hope you'd respect it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 But I certainly won't resort to hating gays even though I think their lifestyle is innapproriate. Does that sound better then the way you took what I originally said? What's so inappropriate about my lifestyle? Is it that I go to bed early? That I like drinking PBR beer? That I kinda like watching A Different World? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Kickass Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 Liberals in America seem to have no problem trying to stamp out every single reference to Christianity they can find but they are just as quick to promote the teaching of a deviant lifestyle under the banner of diversity. Diversity means being all inclusive not just what one side wants to see. Dude. Teach all you want about Christianity, I have no issue. But here's where you're wrong about diversity Nuke. Teaching about these deviant lifestyles might make it less of a risk for me to reveal who I am to people. I take a risk by posting on this board. If my boss discovers who I am, there is the distinct possibility I might be fired. If people in my town discover who I am, there is the distinct possibility I might have my ass kicked for no reason other than I'm not like them. Why? Because people don't understand what it's like to be anything other than what they are. Education breeds tolerance. Education breeds acceptance. You don't have to like what I do - but you do have let me lead my life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 Dude. Teach all you want about Christianity, I have no issue. But here's where you're wrong about diversity Nuke. Teaching about these deviant lifestyles might make it less of a risk for me to reveal who I am to people. I take a risk by posting on this board. If my boss discovers who I am, there is the distinct possibility I might be fired. If people in my town discover who I am, there is the distinct possibility I might have my ass kicked for no reason other than I'm not like them. Why? Because people don't understand what it's like to be anything other than what they are. Education breeds tolerance. Education breeds acceptance. You don't have to like what I do - but you do have let me lead my life. nuke knows little about Christianity or its message other than that in some "I don't go to church" way Jesus never says one word about homosexuality, a point that has been made repeatedly but gets ignored repeatedly by those who place their word over God Yet Jesus condemns violence repeatedly so the deviant lifestyle would be those who serve in the military oh wait, the legions will be out because I said that - my son is in the Marines, in Korea now, on active duty as I believe Nuke is - but the point will be missed by many who choose to miss it but then again whatever Jesus says is a religious matter, not one of the US Constitution which has a Bill of Rights and an Equal Protection Clause to protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority and the point of that is missed by many who chose to miss it and some will be outraged because I disagree with them but they miss they point of that too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted March 20, 2004 Share Posted March 20, 2004 That I like drinking PBR beer? PBR is teh nizzle fo shizzle. I've spent my night dirnking PBR honeywiess and af jager... W00t.. Big ups to to Brooklyn... You gy guys rrock ... It's cool to get hit on by a chick, but to get hit on by a gay buy is teh ultimate compliment... They have taste. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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