LowerCaseRepublican Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 They haven't stopped, have they? Yeah, it's really difficult to have him stop them when they have him walled up in a building with no electricity, no food and no running water yet demand that he end all the terror attacks when he has no contact with the outside world and they won't let him leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 They haven't stopped, have they? No, I guess Arafat couldn't control Hamas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 How about the recent assassination that just about evefry country has denounced? Or do you not recognize your employer as a credible source? 1) I consider my "employer" as a two-faced hypocritical asshole! 2) I don't consider executing (assassinating) a known terrorist (murderer) an "atrocity". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach61 Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Some people are too stubborn, ignorant, stupid, etc., to try to see things in ways other than those in which they believe. I can't get to these close minded people, and I ain't gonna try anymore Good to see that the Jewish people only expect everybody else to see things their way, but they don't have to see things from other peoples point of view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Good to see that the Jewish people only expect everybody else to see things their way, but they don't have to see things from other peoples point of view. Ding, ding, ding, ding.... ladies and gentlemen we have a winner here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 1) I consider my "employer" as a two-faced hypocritical asshole! 2) I don't consider executing (assassinating) a known terrorist (murderer) an "atrocity". According to you the world is wrong. The EU is wrong, the US is wrong, the UN is wrong. The US Constitution is wrong. At any point in your employment process did you have to swear to uphold the constitution? Wouldn't it be hypocritical if you didn't believe in the constitution? Do you believe in International Law and Israel's responsibility to live by it? Or are they above the law? with Apache gun ships cruising their neighborhoods, shooting missles, I cannot understand why the Palestinians would distrust and fear Israel. I also cannot understand with suicide bombs going off in crowded buses that Israelis would fear and distrust Palestinians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 No, I guess Arafat couldn't control Hamas. Couldn't tell you, he NEVER tried! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Couldn't tell you, he NEVER tried! And that comment is based on your conversations with him? How is it that Hamas is under the control of the PLO? Is it like McVeigh was under the control of the US Government? If criminals can somehow be brought under control by their leaders, why do we have crime in the world? Apu, How much of the conflict is the fault of Palestinians and in one or two paragraphs, is there anyway to justify bombs on buses and other civilian targets? I cannot think of one reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 According to you the world is wrong. The EU is wrong, the US is wrong, the UN is wrong. The US Constitution is wrong. At any point in your employment process did you have to swear to uphold the constitution? Wouldn't it be hypocritical if you didn't believe in the constitution? Do you believe in International Law and Israel's responsibility to live by it? Or are they above the law? with Apache gun ships cruising their neighborhoods, shooting missles, I cannot understand why the Palestinians would distrust and fear Israel. I also cannot understand with suicide bombs going off in crowded buses that Israelis would fear and distrust Palestinians. Hamas declared war vs Israel a long time ago...the assassination of yassin is an act of war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Good to see that the Jewish people only expect everybody else to see things their way, but they don't have to see things from other peoples point of view. Nice generalization about Jews, Zach! I can assure you that I have read more books, articles, etc. on the Israeli-Palestinian dispute than you've read books on ANY subject. I cannot relate to the palestinian side of the argument, because I don't feel that they have a legitimate claim to any part of Israel. That is the conclusion I have come up with. (I don't speak for all Jews, okay Beav!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 And that comment is based on your conversations with him? How is it that Hamas is under the control of the PLO? Is it like McVeigh was under the control of the US Government? If criminals can somehow be brought under control by their leaders, why do we have crime in the world? Apu, How much of the conflict is the fault of Palestinians and in one or two paragraphs, is there anyway to justify bombs on buses and other civilian targets? I cannot think of one reason. When the PLO was "replaced" by the PA, they were granted the opportunity and the resources to begin their own security forces, which was to have the responsibility of reining in terrorist groups. The PA Security Forces has just been another militant group. Do some research as to how many Palestinian militants were arrested by PA Security forces. Then do some research on how many of the PA Security Force members have killed Israeli civilians. I don't need to have conversations with Arafat..."Actions speak louder than words.". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach61 Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Nice generalization about Jews, Zach! I can assure you that I have read more books, articles, etc. on the Israeli-Palestinian dispute than you've read books on ANY subject. I cannot relate to the palestinian side of the argument, because I don't feel that they have a legitimate claim to any part of Israel. That is the conclusion I have come up with. (I don't speak for all Jews, okay Beav!) Good to see you have an open mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Good to see you have an open mind. Evidently, reading comprehension is a skill that you do not possess! I said I have read things on BOTH sides of the debate, I formulated my opinions based on these readings, and concluded that Israel is right! Understand, dummy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach61 Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Evidently, reading comprehension is a skill that you do not possess! I said I have read things on BOTH sides of the debate, I formulated my opinions based on these readings, and concluded that Israel is right! Understand, dummy? And like I said, it's good to see you have an open mind. Because I don't agree with you, you call me dumb? The more I listen to you, the less I support the Jews. People like you are the reason hatred is created towards groups. You refuse to listen to anything people say here, but continue to try to force your beliefs down our throats. All you ever do is spout your opinion and then attack people that don't agree with you. Why don't you go back to Israel? Isn't that the place you are fighting so desperately for? If it means that much to you, stay there. You are a coward and expect other people to die for what you conclude to be right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 And like I said, it's good to see you have an open mind. Because I don't agree with you, you call me dumb? The more I listen to you, the less I support the Jews. People like you are the reason hatred is created towards groups. You refuse to listen to anything people say here, but continue to try to force your beliefs down our throats. All you ever do is spout your opinion and then attack people that don't agree with you. Why don't you go back to Israel? Isn't that the place you are fighting so desperately for? If it means that much to you, stay there. You are a coward and expect other people to die for what you conclude to be right. I called you dumb because of your stereotyping of Jews based on what I posted. I never said I speak for all Jews, genius! You did! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 I am an American, born in Chicago. Never even been to Israel. Get your GED, then talk to me, okay! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 According to you the world is wrong. The EU is wrong, the US is wrong, the UN is wrong. The US Constitution is wrong. At any point in your employment process did you have to swear to uphold the constitution? Wouldn't it be hypocritical if you didn't believe in the constitution? Do you believe in International Law and Israel's responsibility to live by it? Or are they above the law? with Apache gun ships cruising their neighborhoods, shooting missles, I cannot understand why the Palestinians would distrust and fear Israel. I also cannot understand with suicide bombs going off in crowded buses that Israelis would fear and distrust Palestinians. Texsox...where was the outrage and world's condemnation when on November 4, 2002, the US killed 6 suspected al-Qaida members in Yemen with a Hellfire missile fired from an unmanned CIA drone at the car in which they were travelling? (CNN) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Check out www.honestreporting.com www.memri.org www.frontpagemag.com (Today's articles are awesome!) www.JewishVirtualLibrary.org (See the Myths and Facts section) www.jewishworldreview.com/0304/rosenberg_bush_doctrine.php3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Re. Targeted Assassinations... "There are no executions without a trial. There is no avenging someone who carried out an attack a month ago. We are acting against those who are waging terror against us. We prefer to arrest them and have detained over 1,000. But if we can't, and the Palestinians won't, then we have no other choice but to defend ourselves." Deputy Chief of Staff Major-General Moshe Ya'alon (Jerusalem Post, August 10, 2001). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach61 Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Another personal attack. No wonder you guys don't have any friends. You're just always the victim and could care less about what you do to other people. Nice. Maybe we should just move everybody out of that area and then nuke it. That way you guys wouldn't have anything to fight over. Take the toy away from the kids if they can't play nice. The funny part is that nobody seems to want the Jews or Palestinians. Based on that, you would think you guys would learn how to get along with each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Your anti-Semitism is showing, Zach!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zach61 Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Only in your eyes. You make personal attacks and that makes me an anti-semite? You poor victim you. Wait, now I get it. If I attack you, then you would be a Christian hater. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Only in your eyes. You make personal attacks and that makes me an anti-semite? You poor victim you. Wait, now I get it. If I attack you, then you would be a Christian hater. You said "you Jews", as if I speak for all Jews. That is generalizing, which in turn is racist. It's as if someone said, "All Mexicans are lazy." if they met 1 Mexican who was lazy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Well, "you Jews" could have meant "you and the other Jews you know that believe the same things you do..." Now.. if he said "all Jews...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted March 23, 2004 Share Posted March 23, 2004 Well, "you Jews" could have meant "you and the other Jews you know that believe the same things you do..." Now.. if he said "all Jews...." "You Jews" is just as discriminatory! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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