a vote for Kerry = vote for Osama

[Controlled Chaos]

and this equating voting for Kerry as voting for Osama bin laden, Flash and CChaos and others who take me to task are silent - I guess better to make fun of people for peace than to criticise demogogues.  To quote Controlled Chaos: Hypocrite.

 

Where the hell does it say anywhere that as you had put in QUOTES "A vote for Kerry is a vote for Osama bin Laden"?????

 

He first said this ""If George Bush loses the election, Osama bin Laden wins the election, it's that simple. It will be interpreted that way by enemies of the United States around the world."

"

Then when asked to clarify he said this "if the president loses his re-election bid, it will be considered a victory for bin Laden in the eyes of U.S. enemies"

 

So the real comment here is that if the president loses then it will be considered a victory for bin Laden and the U.S. enemies. I have no problem with that comment. It's a little different than saying a vote for Kerry is a vote for Osama. This is a republican simply saying that HE THINKS that Bush is a better president and a stronger president than Kerry and that the terrorists would enjoy seeing hm ousted.

[cwsox]

Militant Islamic groups love Bush because he walks right into their propoganda.

 

OH EVIL AMERICA JUST WANTS OUR OIL AND THEYRE GOING TO OCCUPY OIL RICH COUNTRIES

 

Then Bush does and the extremist groups get more members.

Thanks, to Crimson, someone who gets it

[cwsox]

He first said this ""If George Bush loses the election, Osama bin Laden wins the election, it's that simple."

That is a disgusting comment that goes beyond anything decent in American political discourse.

 

"If Franklin Roosevbelt loses this election, Adolf Hitler wins the election, its that simple."

 

"If Jimmy Carter loses this election, Ayatoolah Koumehni wins this election, its that simple."

 

When you equate support for a major party candidate in this country for what this congressman is saying, you ahve engaged in demogogry and the worst type of facism and established decency. For people so sensitve to equations, it is astounding. This congressman sounds just like Hitler's people in 1933 - a vote for the other side is a vote for [fill in the evil]. And boy you will scream about that, but you don;t see that it is your guy here doing that, and it is disgusting. Protrected free speech, but disgusting. But then it is people in thje park who bother you, not inflammatory and ridiculous and dangerous political rhetoric. How dare you equate a John kerry victory into a victory for Osama Bin laden - how dare you.

[KipWellsFan]

Mark my words, if the election goes to Kerry, the terrorists will be dancing in the streets.  If would most certainly be considered a victory for Bin Laden.  No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

Seeing as you have nothing to back that up I have trouble taking that comment at all seriously.

 

People have posted an opinion of the exact opposite and have at least had some sort of argument.

 

To be blatantly honest I view your post as just more Rash Right-wing Stupidity. I NEED MORE INFO!!!!!!!!!!

[mreye]

Cole was a little harsh and maybe chose his words a little wrongly, but I do understand his point.

[cwsox]

Mark my words, if the election goes to Kerry, the terrorists will be dancing in the streets.  If would most certainly be considered a victory for Bin Laden.  No ifs, ands, or buts about it.

YAS, you are my friend and I like you a lot.

 

Is this the same source that told us we'd see dancing in the streets in Iraq and be received as liberators? How many have died since?

 

You are a good guy and a great Sox fan and even a wonderful person!!!! We disagree politically - so what, that is cool, that is America! But might I ay friend to friend that I feel seriosuly insulted and my aptgriotism challenged on statements like that. If you wish for me to respect your support of Bush, they you must respect that I feel as an American that America is best served by a Kerry victory. Disagree with me al you want but please don't suggest anythin g other than Kerry and I and all of us voting for Kerry ahve anything other than the best of love for America's best interests as heart and core of sole rationale for our vote. Please my friend.

[marsh]

all you guys seem not to understand how the election laws work in the U.S.

it's really very simple. here is how it works.

 

a vote for bush= a vote for bush

a vote for kerry= a vote for kerry

a vote for a third party candidate= well, that's just a wasted vote

 

America, all hail our two party system

[kapkomet]

That is a disgusting comment that goes beyond anything decent in American political discourse.

 

"If Franklin Roosevbelt loses this election, Adolf Hitler wins the election, its that simple."

 

"If Jimmy Carter loses this election, Ayatoolah Koumehni wins this election, its that simple."

 

When you equate support for a major party candidate in this country for what this congressman is saying, you ahve engaged in demogogry and the worst type of facism and established decency. For people so sensitve to equations, it is astounding.  This congressman sounds just like Hitler's people in 1933 - a vote for the other side is a vote for [fill in the evil].  And boy you will scream about that, but you don;t see that it is your guy here doing that, and it is disgusting.  Protrected free speech, but disgusting.  But then it is people in thje park who bother you, not inflammatory and ridiculous and dangerous political rhetoric.  How dare you equate a John kerry victory into a victory for Osama Bin laden - how dare you.

Kerry might be a tool IMO, but he certainly represents America, and he certainly isn't in bed with Bin Laden or anyone else for that matter. All his double speak on allowing the UN to take over anything security - if he were to win the election, during the transition months between the election and the inaguration, he'd be able to see everything as it exists on a true scale, not the tidbits he gets as a senator. And it would not surprise me one bit that he says "it might take a little longer for us to get out then I thought so here's what we're going to do ... " type of thing.

 

The guy's not my choice for the election (personally I would have liked Lieberman) but he certainly will stand up for America when it counts, because WE ALL DO.

[Controlled Chaos]

how dare me?? how dare me?? hahaha gimmie a break

 

yeah it's people in the park that bother me

It's funny how you flare up with your losing respect for people and how dare you when it is your argument...but when it is someone elses you dwindle it down to...some people in a park....most people can see thru your spin...left or right.

[IlliniBob72]

That is a disgusting comment that goes beyond anything decent in American political discourse.

 

"If Franklin Roosevbelt loses this election, Adolf Hitler wins the election, its that simple."

 

"If Jimmy Carter loses this election, Ayatoolah Koumehni wins this election, its that simple."

 

When you equate support for a major party candidate in this country for what this congressman is saying, you ahve engaged in demogogry and the worst type of facism and established decency. For people so sensitve to equations, it is astounding.  This congressman sounds just like Hitler's people in 1933 - a vote for the other side is a vote for [fill in the evil].  And boy you will scream about that, but you don;t see that it is your guy here doing that, and it is disgusting.  Protrected free speech, but disgusting.  But then it is people in thje park who bother you, not inflammatory and ridiculous and dangerous political rhetoric.  How dare you equate a John kerry victory into a victory for Osama Bin laden - how dare you.

Yeah, you've got to lay off the righteous indignation. You don't think the South viewed a vote against Abraham Lincoln as one vote closer to gaining their independence? You don't think the Germans were sorry to see Nevile Chamberlain get replaced by Winston Churchill? Enemies of the U.S. have always had a stake in war-time elections. Generals of the Confederacy had a policy of trying to drag the war out to the 1864 election to get Lincoln voted out of office. Pointing it out in this scenerio is hardly "disgusting".

 

Polls show that Americans overwhelmingly believe that Bush will be better and tougher on terrorism than Kerry, so it is perfectly understandable to say that a Kerry victory is better for terrorists like bin Laden. At least I dare to say it.

[ChiSox_Sonix]

Thanks, to Crimson, someone who gets it

ya i would much rather we did nothing, sat back, grabbed our ankles, and just waited for the next attack too

[The Bones]

Yeah, bin Laden must be so scared of Bush. If Bush gets reelected he's a goner.

 

After all it's been 2 and a half years and all we have to show for it is that we "almost" got him. Meanwhile, we went into Iraq, I'm still not sure what the exact reason was for this Bush changed it so many times.

 

Was it WMDs? Nope, there weren't any of those.

Was it liberating the people? They don't seem to happy with our presence over there.

Was it that Saddam Hussein? Yeah, that evil man who had his hands tied behind his back for the last ten years, meanwhile we support people who have done just as bad if not worse things than Hussein.

 

As all of this is happening Osama is just chillin' who knows where it's been so long. He must be just shaking in his boots thinking of a Bush reelection.

[LowerCaseRepublican]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...dc&e=2&ncid=721

 

An Al Qaeda offshoot group released a recent statement. The statement said it supported President Bush (news - web sites) in his reelection campaign, and would prefer him to win in November rather than the Democratic candidate John Kerry (news - web sites), as it was not possible to find a leader "more foolish than you (Bush), who deals with matters by force rather than with wisdom."

 

In comments addressed to Bush, the group said:

 

"Kerry will kill our nation while it sleeps because he and the Democrats have the cunning to embellish blasphemy and present it to the Arab and Muslim nation as civilization."

 

"Because of this we desire you (Bush) to be elected."

 

AL QAEDA FOR BUSH 2004! Now that's a campaign ad I wanna see!

[IlliniBob72]

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...dc&e=2&ncid=721

 

An Al Qaeda offshoot group released a recent statement. The statement said it supported President Bush (news - web sites) in his reelection campaign, and would prefer him to win in November rather than the Democratic candidate John Kerry (news - web sites), as it was not possible to find a leader "more foolish than you (Bush), who deals with matters by force rather than with wisdom."

 

In comments addressed to Bush, the group said:

 

"Kerry will kill our nation while it sleeps because he and the Democrats have the cunning to embellish blasphemy and present it to the Arab and Muslim nation as civilization."

 

"Because of this we desire you (Bush) to be elected."

 

AL QAEDA FOR BUSH 2004!  Now that's a campaign ad I wanna see!

Right. And what better way to get Kerry elected than, as a terrorist and enemy of the United States, to support Bush. And you've fallen for it. Yeah, the Democrats that they claim to fear did a real bang-up job in the 8 years of power they had with Clinton in charge. You'd think they would have cancelled the 9/11 attack with their mortal enemy Democrats out of power. What pure bulls***.

[LowerCaseRepublican]

Right. And what better way to get Kerry elected than, as a terrorist and enemy of the United States, to support Bush. And you've fallen for it. Yeah, the Democrats that they claim to fear did a real bang-up job in the 8 years of power they had with Clinton in charge. You'd think they would have cancelled the 9/11 attack with their mortal enemy Democrats out of power. What pure bulls***.

They're just saying it would be a LOT easier for them to recruit. There are other ways of fighting terrorism other than carpet bombing people.

[southsider2k5]

They're just saying it would be a LOT easier for them to recruit.  There are other ways of fighting terrorism other than carpet bombing people.

MOAB's?

[cwsox]

Kerry might be a tool IMO, but he certainly represents America, and he certainly isn't in bed with Bin Laden or anyone else for that matter.  All his double speak on allowing the UN to take over anything security - if he were to win the election, during the transition months between the election and the inaguration, he'd be able to see everything as it exists on a true scale, not the tidbits he gets as a senator.  And it would not surprise me one bit that he says "it might take a little longer for us to get out then I thought so here's what we're going to do ... " type of thing.

 

The guy's not my choice for the election (personally I would have liked Lieberman) but he certainly will stand up for America when it counts, because WE ALL DO.

thank you - you make the point eloquently

[Texsox]

Maybe Kerry should run for president of France.  He'd fit right in over there.

Does France have a National Guard? Maybe Bush could get credit for theirs also?

 

Let me see if I get this straight:

Bush has been after Bin Laden since 9/11

He and his regime has not found Binny so far

Bin Laden would be dancing if Bush stopped looking and Kerry started?!

 

Is "W" the only one looking? Do we rehire every intelligence agent after an election? Nice election year rhetoric but in the end it is meaningless. US Policy towards catching Bin Laden is not going to change under Kerry. Does anyone think that Kerry wouldn't love to catch Bin Laden and show the world how great the democratic party is? Boy catching Bin Laden when Bush failed would be terrible for mid term elections and Kerry's popularity.

[YASNY]

YAS, you are my friend and I like you a lot.

 

Is this the same source that told us we'd see dancing in the streets in Iraq and be received as liberators?  How many have died since?

 

You are a good guy and a great Sox fan and even a wonderful person!!!!        We disagree politically - so what, that is cool, that is America!   But might I ay friend to friend that I feel seriosuly insulted and my aptgriotism challenged on statements like that.  If you wish for me to respect your support of Bush, they you must respect that I feel as an American that America is best served by a Kerry victory.  Disagree with me al you want but please don't suggest anythin g other than Kerry and I and all of us voting for Kerry ahve anything other than the best of love for America's best interests as heart and core of sole rationale for our vote.  Please my friend.

Whoa here a minute, cwsox. You are reading WAY too much into what I am saying. First of all, I am the source of that "dancing in the streets" statement. I based that on the undeniable fact that there was "dancing in the streets" across the middle east on September 11, 2001. A defeat for George W. Bush would be considered a victory by Bin Ladin and the rest of the radical Islamics over there. I was not making an anti-Kerry statement in any way, shape or form. I was just stating what I believe to be a common sense conclusion. This was in no way meant as an insult to you nor any other American, regardless of party affiliation.

 

 

Edit: I feel I need to further clarify a statement. A defeat for Bush..... etc. Bush is the leader of the campaign against Bin Laden and his terrorist network. For that reason alone, I say that they will consider his defeat a victory for them. Look at Saddam, for example. After Gulf War I, he took every opportunity to walk across the likeness of the first President Bush in the hotel lobby floor. I'm sure he considered Clinton's election over Bush a personal victory.

[Texsox]

Edit:  I feel I need to further clarify a statement.  A defeat for Bush..... etc. Bush is the leader of the campaign against Bin Laden and his terrorist network.  For that reason alone, I say that they will consider his defeat a victory for them.  Look at Saddam, for example.  After Gulf War I, he took every opportunity to walk across the likeness of the first President Bush in the hotel lobby floor.  I'm sure he considered Clinton's election over Bush a personal victory.

A. I do not feel we should let Bin Laden determine our course of history. Isn't he already rejoicing that we care what he thinks and will vote based on him? Doesn't that give him a victory already?

 

B. The Pres is one of thousands that play a part of our anti-terror program. If we are worried about what switching Presidents will do should we start a Bush 2008 campaign? If this was his second term would we be arguing we can't change Presidents now?

[NUKE_CLEVELAND]

MOAB's?

GOOD DEAL!!!!

[cwsox]

Whoa here a minute, cwsox.  You are reading WAY too much into what I am saying.  First of all, I am the source of that "dancing in the streets" statement.  I based that on the undeniable fact that there was "dancing in the streets" across the middle east on September 11, 2001. A defeat for George W. Bush would be considered a victory by Bin Ladin and the rest of the radical Islamics over there.  I was not making an anti-Kerry statement in any way, shape or form.  I was just stating what I believe to be a common sense conclusion.  This was in no way meant as an insult to you nor any other American, regardless of party affiliation.

 

 

Edit:  I feel I need to further clarify a statement.  A defeat for Bush..... etc. Bush is the leader of the campaign against Bin Laden and his terrorist network.  For that reason alone, I say that they will consider his defeat a victory for them.  Look at Saddam, for example.  After Gulf War I, he took every opportunity to walk across the likeness of the first President Bush in the hotel lobby floor.  I'm sure he considered Clinton's election over Bush a personal victory.

whoa here a minute YASNY - what a crock of s***.

 

Bush's re-election would be great for al queda. Bush has avoided pursuing al queda so he could do his own thing against Iraq which had no weapons of mass destruction, posed no threat - meanwhile al queda is stronger than ever, active, and 570 some service people died in Iraq and Bush makes jokes about looking under the office furniture for WOMD.

 

Thus a Bush victory is a victory for Bin Laden, the still free Bin Laden.

 

I am sure if Gore had been sworn in, you would be avidly advocating a Gore re-election, right? And your party of course did not run a candidate against FDR in the midst of WW2 because the defea of FDR would have been a victory for Hitler. And of course your party did not run a candidate against Carter in 1980 because the defeat of Carter, who the Ayaltollah called evil, was a victory for the Ayatollah.

 

Oh wait - your party did run someone against Carter, and that person won, and then engaged in illegal arms negotiations with the Ayatolloah in the Iran/Contra affair and meanwhile gave military aid to Saddam and bin laden - both.

 

The Republican track record is one of hypocrasy, fradulent patriotism, and one where they should not be trusted one bit at all with issues of national security.

 

The defeat of George Bush is a victory for America. Pure and simple.

[Texsox]

Didn't Bush say if we make concessions to terrorists they win? I thought we needed to go about our regular business.

 

I'm certain Binny L is laughing and dancing that he's a factor in our elections.

[IlliniBob72]

Didn't Bush say if we make concessions to terrorists they win? I thought we needed to go about our regular business.

 

I'm certain Binny L is laughing and dancing that he's a factor in our elections.

There is a colossal difference between going about our day to day business and blatantly ignoring a threat to our country's security. It seems like you are advocating pretending al Qaida doesn't exist. The fact that the way our country deals with terrorism is a factor in our election is not a victory for terrorists.

[SuperSteve]

I am going to vote for Tarzan, king of the jungle.