Texsox Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 AMERICAN IDOL' PRODUCERS DEBATE SIMON 'ONE FINGER SALUTE'; FOX EXECUTIVES QUESTION ON-AIR GESTURE The nation's top TV show is at the center of a fresh decency debate after AMERICAN IDOL judge Simon Cowell gestured a one finger salute during Tuesday night's broadcast from Hollywood. The obscene gesture came during a heated exchange with fellow judge Paula Abdul. Cowell held his middle finger to his cheek as Abdul railed against comments made about a contestant. The image came close to being cut, a top FOX executive tells the DRUDGE REPORT. "We were not sure he was doing what he was doing, quite frankly," the source explained. "It appeared he was simply resting his head on his middle finger, but I now think we made a mistake, the gesture should not have aired." The top FOX source says flipping the middle finger would not conform to the network's decency standards. IDOL producers have asked Cowell to refrain from using the provocative pose in the future. FOX airs IDOL with a slight broadcast delay live in eastern and central time zones. Cut off his hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Or his finger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 big deal... not really... why do they worry about stuff like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 25, 2004 Author Share Posted March 25, 2004 All I kept thinking is Paula Abdul has a job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 big deal... not really... why do they worry about stuff like that? This is the post Janet Jackson Nipple era, and Americans (mainly b****y women) are "offended" by these actions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 This is the post Janet Jackson Nipple era, and Americans (mainly b****y women) are "offended" by these actions. He says as he has that great avatar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 does anyone still watch that show? hell, most people probably didn't even catch his "gesture." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 does anyone still watch that show? hell, most people probably didn't even catch his "gesture." The only thing that show had goin for it was William Hung. :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 big deal... not really... why do they worry about stuff like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 does anyone still watch that show? hell, most people probably didn't even catch his "gesture." It's actually one the highest rated shows of the season. It OWNS tueday nights most weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 So what is worse, Steve Francis saying "That is a bunch of bulls***" on national TV, or Simon Cowell flipping off Paula Abdul? If you answered neither is that big of a deal, you are correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 So what is worse, Steve Francis saying "That is a bunch of bulls***" on national TV, or Simon Cowell flipping off Paula Abdul? If you answered neither is that big of a deal, you are correct. Nope, the worst was Shaq when he was pissed after a game and started cursing up a storm. It was great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 The last two days on NYPD Blue reruns on TNT, I've seen the finger prominently displayed each day. Why is it now such a big deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 The last two days on NYPD Blue reruns on TNT, I've seen the finger prominently displayed each day. Why is it now such a big deal? Cable channels have less constrictions on what they are allowed to show. Example: USA and Comedy both have used the word n*****, while Comedy Central has also aired the South Park movie in its entirety (all vulgarities included) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Cable channels have less constrictions on what they are allowed to show. Example: USA and Comedy both have used the word n*****, while Comedy Central also has gotten away with saying s*** several hundred times (during a South Park episode). This was reruns of NYPD Blue, which first appeared on ABC, I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 The more I think about this the more I think, Seriously, what is wrong with this country right now? The censorship mission that some people are on is getting out of control. It's such a bulls*** I can't even comprehend it. The thing that gets me the most is the idea that some people think they know what I want to hear, and that I need to be saved from "indecency". How dare this religious right tell me what I can and can't see or listen to. It's getting re-goddamn-diculous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 25, 2004 Author Share Posted March 25, 2004 The more I think about this the more I think, Seriously, what is wrong with this country right now? The censorship mission that some people are on is getting out of control. It's such a bulls*** I can't even comprehend it. The thing that gets me the most is the idea that some people think they know what I want to hear, and that I need to be saved from "indecency". How dare this religious right tell me what I can and can't see or listen to. It's getting re-goddamn-diculous... Instead of the religious groups, I dislike suburban people telling me what to do and what I can listen to. They meet in their PTAs, and in there parks, and plot this stuff. What right do they have? I think if you are a religious person, you should forfeit your right to have any say in US policies. You shouldn't even be allowed to vote. What right do they have? And old people with their AARP cards. No votes, no letters to editors, no voice in America.What right do they have? And the NRA, gun nuts. Take away their voting cards.What right do they have? And SUV drivers. They should have no votes since they are just wasting resources.What right do they have? And Independents, this is a two party system, they should not have any votes.What right do they have? And Republicans with their Neanderthal clinging to the past, no votes.What right do they have? And Democrates with their wild ideas. Why do they get votes?What right do they have? If you are part of any group, you are not allowed to vote or voice your concern. As long as we can lump you together with someone else, you're outta here. What right do they have? Democracy, who the hell needs it? What right does a group of Americans have to lobby congress and make their feelings known? How dare they. Do they think that is the American way? Cali, you are correct. The religious right should have no rights. They are un American. At least one person here understands democracy, freedom of speech, and how our constitution works. Only atheist who belong to no groups should be allowed to run this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 So what is worse, Steve Francis saying "That is a bunch of bulls***" on national TV, or Simon Cowell flipping off Paula Abdul? If you answered neither is that big of a deal, you are correct. WooHoo! I like being correct! I am a b****y woman, but because I am b****y I flip people off on a regular basis, like now - :fyou ! hahahahahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moochpuppy Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 If they can show Dennis Franz's ass on National TV then anything goes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 It's getting re-goddamn-diculous... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Cali, you are correct. The religious right should have no rights. They are un American. At least one person here understands democracy, freedom of speech, and how our constitution works. Only atheist who belong to no groups should be allowed to run this country. When did I say they should have no rights? I said I don't like the religious right trying to tell me what is "indecent" and what I can and can't listen to. I personally don't like religious wackjobs, but I never said they should have no rights, just stay the f*** out of my life if I don't want you in it. I'm mad at this censorship issue, they are in the forefront of all the complaining about Howard Stern, Janet Jackson, and anything else they believe to be "indecent". They certainly have the right to complain about what they don't like, but trying to eliminate these things all together is BS. Not everybody wants to be saved you f***ing nutjobs.... Sigh I'm good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Cali.. green = sarcasm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Cali.. green = sarcasm. I know that, but it's early and I'm not seeing clearly, and it seemed like something else. It was a long post and it read like a intelligence insulting sarcastic negative pos---good god it's early, I'm starting to ramble..... But I needed to rant anyways so f*** it. I meant it all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 25, 2004 Author Share Posted March 25, 2004 When did I say they should have no rights? I said I don't like the religious right trying to tell me what is "indecent" and what I can and can't listen to. I personally don't like religious wackjobs, but I never said they should have no rights, just stay the f*** out of my life if I don't want you in it. I'm mad at this censorship issue, they are in the forefront of all the complaining about Howard Stern, Janet Jackson, and anything else they believe to be "indecent". They certainly have the right to complain about what they don't like, but trying to eliminate these things all together is BS. Not everybody wants to be saved you f***ing nutjobs.... Sigh I'm good. I'm tired of athiestic wacko nutjobs thinking I can't voice an opinion because I go to Church on Sunday. Everyone who goes to Church and thinks that there are limits to what should be seen and heard on the *public airwaves* is a wackjob? The point I am making is that is how America operates. A group of people can, have, and will continue to make changes. That is a democracy and I dislike wackjobs telling me to butt out of American politics. Because I choose to excercise my rights as an American I'm a wackjob? Get off your ass and do something about censorship. That is what America is about. I would rather you write letters, and excercise your right to free speech and to assemble, and lobby, and everything else to excercise your rights than to complain about another group excercising their rights. Don't tell me not to excercise my rights because athiest scumbag wackjobs are too f***ing lazy to excercise their rights. Call your Congressman and demand that you be able to hear a DJ call a father and tell him his daughter has great tits and would be great in the sack. That's damn funny. Call your congressman and tell him you want nudity on tv for your 8 year old to see. Call your congressman and tell him you want porn on tv. Call him and tell him (or her) what you believe in. But do not tell another group of Americans you are tired of them excercising their right to tell the country how they think it should be. Yes some Americans are in the fore front of what they believe in. Be in the fore front of free speech and nudity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moochpuppy Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 I'm tired of athiestic wacko nutjobs thinking I can't voice an opinion because I go to Church on Sunday. Everyone who goes to Church and thinks that there are limits to what should be seen and heard on the *public airwaves* is a wackjob? Everyone should have an opinion. Although, what's right or wrong for someone or some group may not be right or wrong for someone else. Whatever happened to changing the channel, station, etc...? You think it would be that much easier now-a-days with remote controls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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