cwsox Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Dear [cwsox], I love this country. That's why after proudly serving it for 34 years in uniform, I just can't sit by and watch much of what I've fought for slip away. I believe in the promise of America. I know our best days are still ahead. And I know that we need John Kerry in the White House to help restore the promise of this great nation. Join me today and pledge your support for John Kerry. https://contribute.johnkerry.com Over the past three years, we've watched George W. Bush squander so much that we've worked to build. At a time when we need unity at home and abroad, President Bush's policies have been divisive. This is not the time for reckless unilateralism in matters of foreign policy or national security. This is the time for an experienced, battle-hardened leader to put our campaign against terror back on track. John Kerry is that leader. He will win the peace in Iraq and fight terrorism around the world. The last few days, we've been raising money to help John's campaign in an effort we call, "Come Together: $10 Million in 10 Days." It's been the most successful fundraising drive in our party's history: almost $9 million in nine days. And why? Because Americans believe we need new leadership. George W. Bush has had three long years to take our country forward, and instead he's moved us back. He could have done more to keep us safe before 9/11. After 9/11, he took us to a war we didn't have to fight and distracted us from our focus on the most dangerous threat -- Al Qaeda. In the process, he has damaged American credibility, run up enormous budget deficits, and jeopardized our children's future. That's why so many Americans are saying, "Your time is up, Mr. Bush." So here's my challenge to you: send a donation right now to help me bring us to $10 million today. Send a message to George W. Bush that we're not going to let him play politics with national security. Give John Kerry the resources he needs -- today -- to stand up to the Republican mean machine and fend off their distortions and negative attacks. https://contribute.johnkerry.com I urge you to support him today with a contribution of $25, $50, or $100 to fuel our fight to take back the White House. America needs John Kerry. And John needs you. Thank you. Wes Clark Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1549 Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 I still like Wesley Clark...I still don't like Kerry. kerry just gives me bad vibes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 I still like Wesley Clark...I still don't like Kerry. kerry just gives me bad vibes. didnt mind Clark too much, never have liked Kerry, wanted Lieberman to win primary....still voting for Bush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted March 25, 2004 Author Share Posted March 25, 2004 still voting for Bush rest easy at night, God is a very forgiving God! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 rest easy at night, God is a very forgiving God! i pray for you and Apu every night Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spiff Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 That's a nice form email you got there. He almo$t doe$ a $well job of hiding his real purpo$e. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 I received something similar via snail mail today. I used it to supplement my trash can liner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 I can top that. I got a preapproval for the Democratic Party Platinium Visa card. * No Joke here* Instead of cash back, my money becomes an automatic donation to the Dems. By the time I stopped laughing, that thing hit the shredder so fast. You would think that they would at least look at their lists to see that I am NOT a registered Democrat. Way to waste money:bang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 I can top that. I got a preapproval for the Democratic Party Platinium Visa card. * No Joke here* Instead of cash back, my money becomes an automatic donation to the Dems. By the time I stopped laughing, that thing hit the shredder so fast. You would think that they would at least look at their lists to see that I am NOT a registered Democrat. Way to waste money:bang But it's a PLATINUM card. Are they the only party that would offer you a PLATINUM credit card? And they preach to us about fiscal responsibility? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 But it's a PLATINUM card. Are they the only party that would offer you a PLATINUM credit card? And they preach to us about fiscal responsibility? Yeah, the obviously didn't see my credit score either...But it is just like democrats to throw money at a problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 rest easy at night, God is a very forgiving God! :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted March 25, 2004 Author Share Posted March 25, 2004 :headshake lost you sense of humor there huh? and it is only March... or are you disagreeing that God is forgiving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Thi$ is the part of politic$ I really di$like. Whose the best GOP fundraiser right now? I'll give you a hint, he lives in a very nice public housing project in Washington, DC. Who was the best Dem fundraiser of all time? He came from the same public housing project in Washington! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 what's the state of campaign finance reform right now? it seems like it was a big issue and sort of faded away. did anything ever get passed? iirc we capped hard money but soft money is still the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 what's the state of campaign finance reform right now? it seems like it was a big issue and sort of faded away. did anything ever get passed? iirc we capped hard money but soft money is still the problem. The problem has never really been fixed. Soft money is still the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 The problem is there isn't a solution that is perfect. Public money only cuts of yours and mine free speech and raises taxes Private money leads to groveling by our Presidents and conflicts of interest and all that. Any combination brings in the worst of both. At least in Presidential races, I would like to see single 6 year terms. As it is now the President is either too new, worries about mid term elections and what his actions will do to his party, or running for re-election. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 The problem is there isn't a solution that is perfect. Public money only cuts of yours and mine free speech and raises taxes Private money leads to groveling by our Presidents and conflicts of interest and all that. Any combination brings in the worst of both. At least in Presidential races, I would like to see single 6 year terms. As it is now the President is either too new, worries about mid term elections and what his actions will do to his party, or running for re-election. Actually the older I have gotten the more I feel that campaign money is the opposite of free speech and here's why. People with no money, have no voice. They in effect have no speech at all, and have no influence on the debate. Yet the richer you are, the more free speech you have the ability to exert. I wish there was a way to balance it, but I don't know how Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Actually the older I have gotten the more I feel that campaign money is the opposite of free speech and here's why. People with no money, have no voice. They in effect have no speech at all, and have no influence on the debate. Yet the richer you are, the more free speech you have the ability to exert. I wish there was a way to balance it, but I don't know how By voting Dem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 By voting Dem I get it, they tax us all to nothingness and everybody is then equal. That is genius. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 lost you sense of humor there huh? and it is only March... or are you disagreeing that God is forgiving? I don't know when you're kidding and when you're not. If you actually believe that I'll have to ask God for forgiveness if I vote for Bush, then I stand by my :headshake . If you were joking, then . Either way: :finger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 The problem has never really been fixed. Soft money is still the problem. Soft money is as much the problem as the gun is the problem. Blame the pols, not the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 I get it, they tax us all to nothingness and everybody is then equal. That is genius. Or the GOP will promise more programs -- and -- give us all big tax breaks Honesty is such a lonely word Everyone is so untrue, Honesty is hardly ever heard Dems = Tax and Spend Gop = Spend and Borrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 Soft money is as much the problem as the gun is the problem. Blame the pols, not the money. The issue that I cannot resolve is this; *if* I had southsider2k4's money and wanted to spend $100,000 telling you why I think George W is the perfect man for our time, shouldn't I be allowed to do that? If I decided that the environment was a huge issue, and had the money to spend, shouldn't I be allowed to take out commercials and educate y'all? That sounds ok to most people. But when you see the ads and they are obviously partisan, because so many issues are partisan 1/2 the population cries "no fair"! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 The issue that I cannot resolve is this; *if* I had southsider2k4's money and wanted to spend $100,000 telling you why I think George W is the perfect man for our time, shouldn't I be allowed to do that? If I decided that the environment was a huge issue, and had the money to spend, shouldn't I be allowed to take out commercials and educate y'all? That sounds ok to most people. But when you see the ads and they are obviously partisan, because so many issues are partisan 1/2 the population cries "no fair"! But the problem isn't just that. If you're poor and you want to give money to NRA or Sierra Club. They can't buy commercials and name a candidate or refer to a bill commonly known by a candidate's name (i.e. McCain-Feingold) 30 days before a primary and 60 days before a general election. This isn't just about a rich guy buying airtime. It's about a bunch of middle class people pooling their money and now are being silenced. And actually, that rich guy can do whatever he wants as long as he isn't an organization. Private citizens can buy commercials, but NRA, Sierra Club cannot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted March 25, 2004 Share Posted March 25, 2004 But the problem isn't just that. If you're poor and you want to give money to NRA or Sierra Club. They can't buy commercials and name a candidate or refer to a bill commonly known by a candidate's name (i.e. McCain-Feingold) 30 days before a primary and 60 days before a general election. This isn't just about a rich guy buying airtime. It's about a bunch of middle class people pooling their money and now are being silenced. And actually, that rich guy can do whatever he wants as long as he isn't an organization. Private citizens can buy commercials, but NRA, Sierra Club cannot. My problem is, where do the poor people with no money fit in? They effectively become less "equal" than other people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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