philly Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 what does everybody think of these 2 young pitchers and when do you see them in chicago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 I think Brian Miller has as much upside as just about any pitcher in the organization. He has a very good fastball, mixed with a good changeup. He's still developing and needs to work on his delivery, but definately big time upside. Last I know he was still working on developing some secondary pitches, but the Sox have been working with him on that. I'd say this could be his break out year. As far as Phillips goes, last year he came to Arizona out of shape and had to stay their for part of the season until he was in pitcher shape. Hopefully he learned his lesson from last year, because he has the ability to make the majors. He's compared to Buehrle more then any other pitcher I know of and there are some legit reasons for that. He usually has a good ERA, althoug his record has been awful in the minors (thats off the top of my head, so I could be wrong). I think both are at least two years away from the majors, although Phillips is probably a little closer. Miller has by far more upside. Miller is in my top 20, Phillips is in the top 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bo_chi_sox Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 did we trade for them or what?? did we get them?? link or what Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bo_chi_sox Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 sorry thought u meant the phillips from the marlins my bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 I have no clue who these 2 guys are???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 I have no clue who these 2 guys are???? They are minor leaguers(as pointed out in the title of this thread, and also implied several times) If you do not care about the minor leagues, do not worry about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullard Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 Both of these guys are still pretty young and they both have good upsides. I think both also have the chance to pitch in the Bigs. But on the other hand they are both assholes!!!! J/K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 Both of these guys are still pretty young and they both have good upsides. I think both also have the chance to pitch in the Bigs. But on the other hand they are both assholes!!!! J/K Tell it like it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 Miller last year was 8-12 for Kannapolis with 93 K's and 61 BB's. Phillips was 2-7 with Winstom Salem, 2-1 with Kannapolis, and 0-1 at Birmingham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 Miller looks to be the real deal if he gets it together. I never even heard of Phillips before until now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 yeah, phillips stole a piece of gum from me and i'm like, back off man. BACK OFF. he gave it back. I thanked him. Asshole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox10 Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 I think Brian Miller has as much upside as just about any pitcher in the organization. He has a very good fastball, mixed with a good changeup. He's still developing and needs to work on his delivery, but definately big time upside. Last I know he was still working on developing some secondary pitches, but the Sox have been working with him on that. I'd say this could be his break out year. As far as Phillips goes, last year he came to Arizona out of shape and had to stay their for part of the season until he was in pitcher shape. Hopefully he learned his lesson from last year, because he has the ability to make the majors. He's compared to Buehrle more then any other pitcher I know of and there are some legit reasons for that. He usually has a good ERA, althoug his record has been awful in the minors (thats off the top of my head, so I could be wrong). I think both are at least two years away from the majors, although Phillips is probably a little closer. Miller has by far more upside. Miller is in my top 20, Phillips is in the top 30. i believe that phillips was hurt and that was why he stayed in AZ for a while longer...but im not sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 i love robert randolph... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 Phillips has never gotten run support throughout his his stint with the Sox, his W-L record is 20 games below .500 but his ERA is around 3.5. He's a very unlucky man, I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmags Posted April 3, 2004 Share Posted April 3, 2004 alright... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
man hands Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 what does everybody think of these 2 young pitchers and when do you see them in chicago? Come on guys, just come on out and ask what you think of US? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogsmom Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 Heath was in W-S mostly during a losing season and had no run support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 Come on guys, just come on out and ask what you think of US? We already know about you..... you're old news. We're looking for new meat! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upnorthsox Posted April 4, 2004 Share Posted April 4, 2004 Come on guys, just come on out and ask what you think of US? Ok Baj, but let me preffice by saying that I've never seen you actually pitch so this is an inquiry not a critique but with almost all the BP spots in Charlotte up for grabs why are you back in B'ham? What didn't you accomplish this spring to get you one of those spots? What do you need to do to be banging on Chicago's door? Is it simply #'s, results, or something else? Or am I completely off base on all this and all you're saying is that Philly is Phillips and he's out trolling for kudos? Either way I'd love to hear your self assessment of your spring and what your mindset is going into the season. One of the great things of having you guys post here is that we get an appreciation and some insight into what goes in to the making a major league ballplayer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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