JUGGERNAUT Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 Jesus motherf*cking Christ......can someone please tell Jauggs that Tigers are still gonna lose 95-100+ games this year, now that Dmitri Young is done....And that Twins and Royals are STILL by far Sox' biggest worry. I'm not so sure about that. It's only 4 gms, but a team era of 3.00 & team whip of 1.06 looks pretty good to me. The Tigers are hitting at a clip of 906 OPS & holding opp to 651 OPS. I'm not saying they are going to be in the hunt by years end. But they certainly are playing good ball so far. The big hitters are the new hitters: Rondel White, Dmitri Young, Guillen, & I-ROD are all over 1000 OPS. Young has really been a non factor in the TB dept. I-ROD, Munson, & White are the main TB guys. White is suspect to play a whole year so I agree when he goes down they will struggle to score. But media wise this plays in the hands of the SOX bashers. I disagree with the Royals being a main threat. Right now they look like they have severe rotation problems. Yeah, the Twinks will be there as long as Santana is healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 Wow, just wow. You're quoting stats after 4 freaking games! Fine, I'll do the same. Rob Bowen, C for Minnesota has an OPS of 5.000. MVP. Yeah, let's show how Carlos Guillen has an OPS>1.000 when his career average is .720. Rondell White? .818. Ivan Rodriguez? .833. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 I'm not so sure about that. It's only 4 gms, but a team era of 3.00 & team whip of 1.06 looks pretty good to me. The Tigers are hitting at a clip of 906 OPS & holding opp to 651 OPS. I'm not saying they are going to be in the hunt by years end. But they certainly are playing good ball so far. The big hitters are the new hitters: Rondel White, Dmitri Young, Guillen, & I-ROD are all over 1000 OPS. Young has really been a non factor in the TB dept. I-ROD, Munson, & White are the main TB guys. White is suspect to play a whole year so I agree when he goes down they will struggle to score. But media wise this plays in the hands of the SOX bashers. I disagree with the Royals being a main threat. Right now they look like they have severe rotation problems. Yeah, the Twinks will be there as long as Santana is healthy. Indians started 2002 at 11-1. So far is only 4 games. 2.5% of the season give or take. Young has a broken leg and will miss 2 months. Munson sucks. White is made of china. I-Rod will get pitched around, will suddenly decide he doesn't want to play in Detroit anymore. The team will settle into 100-loss groove. Royals may not be better than the Sox, but they could have easily won both games. They have a smart GM and a super-rich owner who WILL get them impact players if KC's in 1st at the break. In the last 3 years, Twins kicked our ass. Unless Santana is out of the pitcture, it would be stupid to count them out just yet -- it's not as if Sox are playing good ball themselves. The schedule is brutal. Twins and KC had to deal with it last year and didn't b**** about it. We're about to find out what the Sox are made of. If Sox fans won't attend because the media focuses on the Cubs...well, then, they aren't worth much as fans, are they? The damn park BETTER be packed in the first 2 weeks, rain or not. It's time for Sox fans to put up or shut up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 Wow, just wow. You're quoting stats after 4 freaking games! Fine, I'll do the same. Rob Bowen, C for Minnesota has an OPS of 5.000. MVP. Yeah, let's show how Carlos Guillen has an OPS>1.000 when his career average is .720. Rondell White? .818. Ivan Rodriguez? .833. Look, I'm just concerned of how the print media will treat the SOX if the Tigers continue to win while the SOX battle the NY All-Stars. I think it does have an effect on some of these players. The schedule makers have made it very difficult for the SOX to get off to a good start. If the Tigers continue to run away when the SOX might be in a losing streak I can just imagine the columns they'll write. That's all I'm trying to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 Last year we played the Yankees six times in September. Along with the rest of our schedule, the month of September was tough on our team and ultimately led to our demise. I'm glad we're playing the Yankees now and getting it over with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 Half of September is the AL West and the 2nd half is AL Central. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 Indians started 2002 at 11-1. So far is only 4 games. 2.5% of the season give or take. Young has a broken leg and will miss 2 months. Munson sucks. White is made of china. I-Rod will get pitched around, will suddenly decide he doesn't want to play in Detroit anymore. The team will settle into 100-loss groove. Royals may not be better than the Sox, but they could have easily won both games. They have a smart GM and a super-rich owner who WILL get them impact players if KC's in 1st at the break. In the last 3 years, Twins kicked our ass. Unless Santana is out of the pitcture, it would be stupid to count them out just yet -- it's not as if Sox are playing good ball themselves. The schedule is brutal. Twins and KC had to deal with it last year and didn't b**** about it. We're about to find out what the Sox are made of. If Sox fans won't attend because the media focuses on the Cubs...well, then, they aren't much of fans, are they now? The damn park BETTER be packed in the first 2 weeks, rain or not. It's time for Sox fans to put up or shut up. Preach on Brando... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 Please excuse me. We are playing at a pitiful .333 clip. I am going into PANIC MODE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 Please excuse me. We are playing at a pitiful .333 clip. I am going into PANIC MODE. My problem is not that we're 1-2. I mean, both games in KC were very winnable and, let's face it, when Shoenwiess takes on Vasquez in the Bronx, with all of their boppers in the line-up, Sox have NO chance. What bothers me is the fact that Sox have a HUGE hole at 2B/lead-off spot and that they STILL can't hit a good breaking pitch to save their life. The former tells me that KW is still KW and the latter that Greg Walker has no magical formula for turning an average offense into an above average one by instilling an all-field, less greedy approach we've haven't seen since early 2000. Furthermore, Sox still don't do the little things right -- constantly make outs at 2nd base, can't complete a run-down, certain players can't be bothered to get over to first to complete a DP, don't hit behind the runner, etc, etc.....When you don't have a vastly superior team talent-wise, the little things accumulate and lead to 2003-esque disasters when the team underpeforms the Pythagorian and misses postseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 My problem is not that we're 1-2. I mean, both games in KC were very winnable and, let's face it, when Shoenwiess takes on Vasquez in the Bronx, with all of their bippers in the line-up, Sox have NO chance. What bothers me is the fact that Sox have a HUGE hole at 2B/lead-off spot and that they STILL can't hit a good breaking pitch to save their life. The former tells me that KW is still KW and the latter that Greg Walker has no magical formula for turning an average offense into aan bove average one by insilling an all-field, less greedy approach we've haven't seen since early 2000. Furthermore, Sox still don't do the little things right -- constantly make outs at 2nd base, can't complete a run-down, certain players can't be bothered to get over to first to complete a DP, don't hit behind the runner, etc, etc.....When you don't have a vastly superior team talent-wise, the little things accumulate and lead to 2003-esque disasters when the team underpeforms the Pythagorian and misses postseason. Just to add to Brado's post... Valentine has shown me that he should still be removed if against lefties, I don't think he can even approach his vaunted .150 career average against them. the Timo Perez AB was terrible... Actually I don't so much remember the AB -- It could have been a 25 pitch struggle(although I know it wasn't) -- He hit a Sharp? combacker to vasquez... He took a few steps down the first, trotting, with his batt in hand... Never made it to first, Never dropped the bat. It was his first action of the season and as far as I'm concerned it should be his last... If ozzie is going to do all he said he was goin to do, Timo should have been ripped a new asshole in between innings and Gload should have headed out to the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 9, 2004 Share Posted April 9, 2004 Valentine has shown me that he should still be removed if against lefties, I don't think he can even approach his vaunted .150 career average against them. First of all, he can definately hit much higher than .150 from the left side. It takes time to adjust -- he should have given up switch-hitting years ago -- but from what I saw of him this spring, when he doesn't overswing and uses the whole field, Jose can definately hit lefties from that side. But even if he only hits, say, .210 against them, who are you gonna replace him with? Uribe? Then what do you do with Harris who will be lucky to hit .100 against lefties? Mike f***ing Bordick is till out there, no? Last year he crushed LHP. A temporary solution, but a much needed one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 Now, we need Buehrle to pitch like he did against KC, and we have to tee of on DePaula. We can't have one of our usual no-runs-against-pitcher-we-haven't-seen games. I trust that Mark can pitch good, . But I am not so sure how we will fare against this DePaula guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 Props to Kenny for the trade that he didn't make, Konerko for Odalis Perez.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted April 10, 2004 Share Posted April 10, 2004 Detroit loses.... Sox Magic # = 159 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxShuf Posted April 10, 2004 Author Share Posted April 10, 2004 Way to keep this around, good work Cheat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxShuf Posted April 11, 2004 Author Share Posted April 11, 2004 Sox beat the yankees 7-3. Two wins in a row, one more game in New York. Dan Wright v Mussina. Sox are no 3-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted April 11, 2004 Share Posted April 11, 2004 Ok, now it is Danny Wright's turn to step his ass up. We have to kick the s*** out of the Yanks while they are down. Hopefully he comes out relaxed and confident, and gives us a chance to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxShuf Posted April 14, 2004 Author Share Posted April 14, 2004 Sox beat the Royals 12-5. This team is really beginning to spank the ball. Record is now 4-3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 Magic # = 156 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 Props to Kenny for the trade that he didn't make, Konerko for Odalis Perez.... It's like they say, some of the best trades your best trades as a GM are the ones you didn't make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 Maggs with the walk off job --- Sox Sweep royals. Magic # = 154 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 15, 2004 Share Posted April 15, 2004 It's like they say, some of the best trades your best trades as a GM are the ones you didn't make. Truer words have never been spoken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 Tribe Beat Tigers... Sox leave bats in Chicago --- Lose to D-rays Minnesota up on KC 9-7 Should be a three way tie for the division lead, by the end of the night. Sox Magic # = 153 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Maybe it is...surprise surprise Detroit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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