Mr. Showtime Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 5.1 innings 11 hits 6 runs all earned 2 walks 3 K's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldmember Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 good news for the Stros after Petitte's performance is that they're only down by 3 (6-3) in the 7th... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Pettitte always starts slow as does Russ Ortiz. I waived them both last year off my fantasy team and they won 20 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 He's overrated nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 SEASON TEAM W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV SVO IP H R ER HR HBP BB SO 1995 Yankees 12 9 4.17 31 26 3 0 0 --- 175.0 183 86 81 15 1 63 114 1996 Yankees 21 8 3.87 35 34 2 0 0 --- 221.0 229 105 95 23 3 72 162 1997 Yankees 18 7 2.88 35 35 4 1 0 --- 240.1 233 86 77 7 3 65 166 1998 Yankees 16 11 4.24 33 32 5 0 0 --- 216.1 226 110 102 20 6 87 146 1999 Yankees 14 11 4.70 31 31 0 0 0 0 191.2 216 105 100 20 3 89 121 2000 Yankees 19 9 4.35 32 32 3 1 0 0 204.2 219 111 99 17 4 80 125 2001 Yankees 15 10 3.99 31 31 2 0 0 0 200.2 224 103 89 14 6 41 164 2002 Yankees 13 5 3.27 22 22 3 1 0 0 134.2 144 58 49 6 4 32 97 2003 Yankees 21 8 4.02 33 33 1 0 0 0 208.1 227 109 93 21 1 50 180 Career Totals 149 78 3.94 283 276 23 3 0 --- 1792.2 1901 873 785 143 31 579 1275 I would take that "overrated" any day of the week in our rotation. Don't know why you think he is overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WillieHarris2 Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 I would take that "overrated" any day of the week in our rotation. Don't know why you think he is overrated. i dont think pettite is overated at all. this guy is just phenomenal in the postseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 He is a solid lefty. I can't see how anyone would think he is overrated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighHeat45 Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 damn i have him in fantasy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Pettitte's never been great, but he's always been good. I'd would have like to have seen him on the south side for the past 7 years or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesox247 Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 damn i have him in fantasy LMAO awesome sig. As for Pettite, I wouldnt mind having him any day of the week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 I have no idea why people thought Houston was the better team in NLC before Prior went down in March. Cubs were at least 5-6 games better talent-wise before Jesus went on DL and now they're even if he comes back in June. 41yo flamethrower Clemens not even sure if he wants to pitch anymore is NOT the equivalent of a 37yo soft-tosser Maddux just 1 year removed from a 2.50 ERA season. Pettite is not as good as Wood. Oswalt and his groin inflammation. Bagwell and his steroids. Biggio is old and can't play CF. Dotel doesn't have the mentality to fill in for Wagner. Miller couldn't carry Zambrano's jock. Etc. And Jim Hendry won't stand idly by and watch Mitre implode. He will get a decent starter to mitigate the Prior blow. Cubs have prospects and money to get just about anyone if need be. Hendry has shown with Juan Cruz that he wants to WIN now and won't stop at the cost. The only way Cubs don't make the playoffs is if Maddux, Zambrano, Alou, Borowski and Patterson have unexpectedly crappy seasons while Astros stay healthy all year long and Kent, Berkman, Hidalgo absolutely MASH. Let's all pray. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Pettitte's never been great, but he's always been good. I'd would have like to have seen him on the south side for the past 7 years or so. you and me both one of the few players I really coveted from another team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 you and me both one of the few players I really coveted from another team Exactly. The guy has been consistantly good for a long time. I've always liked Pettitte. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 I'd have to say, regardless if someone admits it or not, many would give up a nut to have this guy on their team... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 I'd have to say, regardless if someone admits it or not, many would give up a nut to have this guy on their team... That's a little extreme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 That's a little extreme. Always in the gutter.... Peanut Yas.. a peanut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Always in the gutter.... Peanut Yas.. a peanut. Sure Steff. What ever you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 SEASON TEAM W L ERA G GS CG SHO SV SVO IP H R ER HR HBP BB SO 1995 Yankees 12 9 4.17 31 26 3 0 0 --- 175.0 183 86 81 15 1 63 114 1996 Yankees 21 8 3.87 35 34 2 0 0 --- 221.0 229 105 95 23 3 72 162 1997 Yankees 18 7 2.88 35 35 4 1 0 --- 240.1 233 86 77 7 3 65 166 1998 Yankees 16 11 4.24 33 32 5 0 0 --- 216.1 226 110 102 20 6 87 146 1999 Yankees 14 11 4.70 31 31 0 0 0 0 191.2 216 105 100 20 3 89 121 2000 Yankees 19 9 4.35 32 32 3 1 0 0 204.2 219 111 99 17 4 80 125 2001 Yankees 15 10 3.99 31 31 2 0 0 0 200.2 224 103 89 14 6 41 164 2002 Yankees 13 5 3.27 22 22 3 1 0 0 134.2 144 58 49 6 4 32 97 2003 Yankees 21 8 4.02 33 33 1 0 0 0 208.1 227 109 93 21 1 50 180 Career Totals 149 78 3.94 283 276 23 3 0 --- 1792.2 1901 873 785 143 31 579 1275 I would take that "overrated" any day of the week in our rotation. Don't know why you think he is overrated. We'll see how he pitches without the yankee bats backing him up. We all know that they gave him consistant leads off the back. I don't think the Stros can do that for him, and we'll see how his true form is when he pitches. (even though he got roughed up in his last outing.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 I'd have to say, regardless if someone admits it or not, many would give up a nut to have this guy on their team... 11-13 Mill a year for a 4.00 ERA pitcher who padded his stats by pitching in the spacious Yankee stadium, with an added psychological benefit of knowing that he could give up 6 ER and the Yankees offense could still give him the W? Thanks but no thanks. I'd rather have Washburn (5.5), Buerhle (3.5) and Shoenweiss (1.5) for that money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 11-13 Mill a year for a 4.00 ERA pitcher who padded his stats by pitching in the spacious Yankee stadium, with an added psychological benefit of knowing that he could give up 6 ER and the Yankees offense could still give him the W? Thanks but no thanks. I'd rather have Washburn (5.5), Buerhle (3.5) and Shoenweiss (1.5) for that money. But, IMO, his playoff mindset is a HUGE asset. We can score runs.. but to have someone who can hold the fort in the post season is worth the $$. Again.. IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 We can score runs.. The last time we scored runs when they really mattered was in 2000, ancient history. In 01 and 02, Sox were WAY out of contention, so the offensive numbers were padded in pressure-free situations. In 2003, Sox finished in the bottom half of AL in runs scored. In short, the rumors of White Sox offensive potency have been greatly exaggerated. Starting from the 2nd half of 2000, in the last 3.5 years, Sox offense has been very, very average when the division was up for grabs. but to have someone who can hold the fort in the post season is worth the $$. We'd have to make the post-season in the first place. Look......back in '96-97, not only was Pettite GOOD, he was CHEAP. In the ensuing 6 seasons, he's been pretty unspectacular at an incresingly higher salary while playing under pitcher-friendly circumstances. I'll pass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Geezus Christ... IN MY OPINION. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Geezus Christ... IN MY OPINION. No s*** it's your opinion. It was YOU who expressed it afterall. Goes without saying. Just because it's an opinion doesn't make it fact check-proof or criticism-repellent. Many people share this POV that Pettite is this incredible stud/bargain. I am replying to that POV -- your post was just a convenient formulation thereof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 No s*** it's your opinion. It was YOU who expressed it afterall. Goes without saying. Just because it's an opinion doesn't make it fact check-proof or criticism-repellent. Many people share this POV that Pettite is this incredible stud/bargain. I am replying to that POV -- your post was just a convenient formulation thereof. Brando.. what the hell is your problem? What about my opinion is "fact-check proof"? How in the hell is an opinion checked with facts..? However.. not at all surprised your critisizing someone's opinion.. it's your specialty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted April 7, 2004 Share Posted April 7, 2004 Not putting words in his mouth, but I sense he's saying an opinion can be challenged. If I say "In my opinion, Frank Thomas should bat leadoff", there would be all kinds of discussion, debate, etc. about it. Opinions get challenged here all the time Steff, you know that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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