JUGGERNAUT Posted April 12, 2004 Author Share Posted April 12, 2004 APR 11 @ NYY OH DANNNNNNNNNNNNNYYYYYYY BOY! They are NOT SMILING! Synopsis: Frank Thomas continues to do the little things to help the team, but his lack of big numbers is getting worriesome. Danny Wright is a marginal 5th starter at best. Once again the SOX are opening the season with a complete ? at the 5th starter spot. BoG:J Valentin AoG:N Cotts GoG:Olivo (No real standouts so I think Olivo's throws to 2nd get the nod) ========== PoG: J Valentin BoG:J Valentin JV=2.5+4+3 MO=2.5 FT=2.5 CL=4 PK=.5+2+1 JC=1,5+.5 RG=1.5 JU=.5 MOL=1 AoG:N Cotts DW=(6.5+0+2+9.5+5.5)/5=4.25 (Very bad. Double Garland's score in his 1st start) NC=(0+0+3)/3=1 DM=1/1=1 PoG: GoG:Olivo (No real standouts so I think Olivo's throws to 2nd get the nod) JV=2.5+4+3 MO=2.5 FT=2.5 CL=4 PK=.5+2+1 JC=1,5+.5 RG=1.5 JU=.5 MOL=1 DW=6.5+2+0+2+9.5+5.5 NC=0+0+3 DM=1 CHICAGO SOX 1ST -J Valentin reached on infield single to pitcher. 1 -M Ordonez singled to center, J Valentin to second. 1.5,.5 -F Thomas singled to center, J Valentin scored, M Ordonez to second. 1+1+.5,1,.5 -C Lee doubled to deep right, M Ordonez and F Thomas scored. 2+1+1.5,1,1.5 -P Konerko walked. .5 JV=2.5 MO=2.5 FT=2.5 CL=4 PK=.5 NY YANKEES 1ST -Bottom of the 1st inning -D Jeter safe at first on error by shortstop J Valentin. .5 -D Jeter stole second. 1 -J Giambi walked. .5 -G Sheffield singled to right center, D Jeter scored, J Giambi to third. 1+1+.5 DW=6.5 CHICAGO SOX 2ND -W Harris doubled to left. 2 WH=2 NY YANKEES 2ND DW=0 NY YANKEES 3RD -D Jeter doubled to deep center. 2 DW=2 CHICAGO SOX 4TH -Top of the 4th inning -P Konerko singled to right. 1 -J Crede walked, P Konerko to second. .5,.5 -M Olivo grounded out to second, P Konerko to third, J Crede to second. 1,.5,.5 PK=2 JC=1,5 MOL=1 NY YANKEES 4TH -Bottom of the 4th inning -G Sheffield walked. .5 -J Posada walked, G Sheffield to second. .5,.5 -B Crosby homered to right, G Sheffield and J Posada scored. 4+2.5,1,1.5 DW=9.5 CHICAGO SOX 5TH -J Valentin homered to right. 4 JV=4 NY YANKEES 5TH -Bottom of the 5th inning -B Williams hit by pitch. .5, -J Giambi grounded out to second, B Williams to second. .5,.5 -G Sheffield doubled to deep center, B Williams scored. 2+1,1 DW=5.5 NC=0 CHICAGO SOX 6TH -Top of the 6th inning -P Konerko singled to center. 1 PK=1 NY YANKEES 6TH NC=0 CHICAGO SOX 7TH -J Valentin tripled to right. 3 JV=3 NY YANKEES 7TH -Bottom of the 7th inning -D Jeter singled to left.1 -A Rodriguez doubled to deep left. 2 NC=3 NY YANKEES 8TH DM=1 CHICAGO SOX 9TH -M Rivera relieved T Gordon. -Top of the 9th inning -J Crede hit by pitch. .5 -R Gload singled to right, J Uribe to second. 1+.5,.5 JC=.5 RG=1.5 JU=.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted April 13, 2004 Author Share Posted April 13, 2004 APR 13 v KC : HOME OPENER! Loaiza was rocked for the long ball, but otherwise steady. Koney was Kong like. PoG: Paul Konerko AoG: Billy Koch BoG: Paul Konerko GoG: Miguel Olivo (no real standout) ======================== EL=.5*2,12,4,1,3.5,4 MJ=0,2 BK=.5 JV=.5,5,.5,.5 MO=1,1 CL=3,.5,2,1 PK=2.5,6.5 JC=3.5,.5 AR=.5,2.5,2 MOL=3,3.5 FT=.5,2,2.5 JU=4,2.5,1 RG=.5 Gamelog breakdown: KANSAS CITY 1ST -M Sweeney safe at first on error by second baseman J Uribe. .5 EL=.5 CHICAGO SOX 1ST JV=.5 MO=1 KANSAS CITY 2ND -Top of the 2nd inning -J Randa walked. .5 EL=.5 CHICAGO SOX 2ND -Bottom of the 2nd inning -C Lee doubled to right. 2 -P Konerko singled to right, C Lee to third. 1.5,.5 -J Crede singled to center, C Lee scored, P Konerko to second. 2,.5*2 -A Rowand sacrificed to first, P Konerko to third, J Crede to second..5*3 -M Olivo doubled to deep right center, P Konerko and J Crede scored, M Olivo out stretching at third. 2+1.5-.5,1,.5 -J Uribe grounded out to third. CL=3 PK=2.5 JC=3.5 AR=.5 MOL=3 KANSAS CITY 3RD -A Berroa homered to left. 4 -C Beltran doubled to deep right. 2 -M Sweeney homered to left, C Beltran scored. 5,1 EL-12 CHICAGO SOX 3RD -F Thomas walked. .5 -C Lee walked, F Thomas to second. .5*2 FT=.5 CL=.5 KANSAS CITY 4TH -A Guiel homered to center. 4 EL=4 KANSAS CITY 5TH -C Beltran reached on infield single to second. 1 EL=1 CHICAGO SOX 5TH -J Uribe homered to center.4 -F Thomas walked. .5, -C Lee walked, F Thomas to second. .5*2 -P Konerko homered to left center, F Thomas and C Lee scored. 6.5,1,1.5 JU=4 FT=2 CL=2 PK=6.5 KANSAS CITY 6TH -M Stairs walked. .5 -J Randa singled to right, M Stairs to third. 2,1 EL=3.5 CHICAGO SOX 6TH -A Rowand reached on infield single to second. 1 -J Uribe singled to right, A Rowand to second. 2,,5 -J Valentin doubled to deep center, A Rowand and J Uribe scored. 4,1,1 -M Ordonez hit by pitch. .5 -F Thomas singled to center, J Valentin scored, M Ordonez to second. 2.5,1,.5 AR=2.5 JU=2.5 JV=5 MO=1 FT=2.5 KANSAS CITY 7TH -T Graffanino homered to left. 4 EL=4 MJ=0 CHICAGO SOX 7TH -A Rowand walked. .5 -M Olivo singled to right center, A Rowand to third. 2,1 -J Uribe grounded out to third, A Rowand scored, M Olivo to second. 1,.5*2 -J Valentin struck out swinging, J Valentin safe at first on wild pitch by J Cerda, M Olivo scored. .5,1 MOL=3.5 AR=2 JU=1 JV=.5 KANSAS CITY 8TH -J Randa doubled to deep left. 2 MJ=2 CHICAGO SOX 8TH -Bottom of the 8th inning -F Thomas struck out looking. -C Lee singled to center. 1 -R Gload ran for C Lee. -P Konerko flied out to right. -J Crede walked, R Gload to second. .5*2 CL=1 RG=.5 JC=.5 KC 9TH BK=.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted April 16, 2004 Author Share Posted April 16, 2004 APR 14 v KC : Ozzie nearly blew it. JG in 7th? PoG: Joe Crede (Game winning double overrules stats) AoG: Clif Politte BoG: Miguel Olivo (edges out Joe) GoG: Miguel Olivo (no web gems) ======================================================== JG=1+0+.5+0+1+8+14 CP=0+2 BK=18.5 (OUUUUUUCH!) JA=.5 JV=1 PK=.5+2+4 AR=2+2 MOL=2+6+3 JU=2+2+1 FT=3+2+.5 JC=2+1+4.5 MO=3+2 CL=2.5+2 ======================================================== KANSAS CITY 1ST -C Beltran singled to center. JG=1 CHICAGO SOX 1ST -J Uribe hit by pitch..5 -J Uribe caught stealing second, catcher to shortstop.-.5 -J Valentin singled to right.1 JV=1 KANSAS CITY 2ND JG=0 CHICAGO SOX 2ND -F Thomas walked. .5 -F Thomas caught stealing second, catcher to second. -.5 -P Konerko walked. .5 PK=.5 KANSAS CITY 3RD -A Berroa walked..5 JG=.5 CHICAGO SOX 3RD -A Rowand safe at second on error by left fielder A Guiel. 1 -M Olivo sacrificed to catcher, A Rowand to third, .5,.5 -A Rowand scored, M Olivo to second on wild pitch by J Affeldt. .5,.5 -J Uribe singled to left, M Olivo scored. 2,1 AR=2 MOL=2 JU=2 KANSAS CITY 4TH JG=0 CHICAGO SOX 4TH -F Thomas doubled to deep left. 2 -J Crede walked. .5 -A Rowand walked, J Crede to second. .5*3 -M Olivo doubled to deep right center, F Thomas, J Crede and A Rowand scored. 2+3,.5,1,1.5 -J Uribe singled to left, M Olivo scored. 2,1 FT=3 JC=2 AR=2 MOL=6 JU=2 KANSAS CITY 5TH -A Guiel singled to right.1 JG=1 KANSAS CITY 6TH -Top of the 6th inning -A Berroa singled to shallow right. 1 -C Beltran doubled to deep right, A Berroa to third. 2.5,.5 -M Sweeney hit sacrifice fly to center, A Berroa scored. 1.5,.5 -J Gonzalez walked, C Beltran stole third. .5,1 -J Randa grounded into fielder's choice to first, C Beltran scored, J Gonzalez out at second. .5 JG=8 CHICAGO SOX 6TH -J Crede singled to left.1 JC=1 KANSAS CITY 7TH -B Santiago homered to right. 5 -A Berroa singled to left center. 1 -C Beltran homered to right, A Berroa scored. 6.5,1.5 -C Politte relieved J Garland. JG=14 CP=0 CHICAGO SOX 7TH -J Uribe singled to right.1 -M Ordonez singled to left, J Valentin to second. 1,.5 -J Valentin out at third, M Ordonez to second, F Thomas to first, M Ordonez to third, F Thomas to second 1,1.5 -C Lee reached on infield single to third, M Ordonez scored, F Thomas to third. 2,.5*2 -P Konerko singled to left center, F Thomas scored, C Lee to second. 2,.5*2 JU=1 MO=3 FT=2 CL=2.5 PK=2 KANSAS CITY 8TH -K Harvey doubled to deep center. 2 CP=2 CHICAGO SOX 8TH -M Olivo singled to left. 1 -M Olivo stole second. 1 -M Olivo to third on wild pitch by J Grimsley. 1 MOL=3 KANSAS CITY 9TH -B Koch relieved C Politte. -Top of the 9th inning -A Guiel walked. .5 -A Berroa singled to center, A Guiel scored. 2.5,1.5 -C Beltran homered to center, A Berroa scored. 6.5,1.5 -M Sweeney homered to left.4 -J Randa doubled to deep right center. 2 -J Adkins relieved B Koch. -K Harvey walked. .5 BK=18.5 (OUUUUUUCH!) JA=.5 CHICAGO SOX 9TH -M Ordonez walked. .5 -F Thomas safe at first, M Ordonez to second. .5,.5 -C Lee walked, M Ordonez to third, W Harris to second. .5*3 -P Konerko singled to right, M Ordonez scored, W Harris to third, C Lee to second. 2.5,.5*3 -J Crede doubled to deep right center, W Harris and C Lee scored, P Konerko to third. 4.5,.5,1,.1.5 MO=2 FT=.5 CL=2 PK=4 JC=4.5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Holy crap...! Great detail Juggernaut! Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted April 16, 2004 Author Share Posted April 16, 2004 APR 15 v KC : Mark Buehrle struggles, but SOX still win! PoG: Magglio Ordonez (Game winning home run in 10th!) AoG: Mark Jackson BoG: Magglio Ordonez GoG: Jose Valentin (Brandofan) =============================================== NOTE: Changes to scoring system after today. See 1st post. MB=5+1+0+4.5+0+13.5 MJ=.5+0 DM=1.5+1 JU=3+1.5 JV=4+1.5+1 MO=.5+2.5+4 FT=1+5.5 CL=.5 PK=.5 AR=4 =============================================== KANSAS CITY 1ST -Top of the 1st inning -A Berroa struck out swinging. -C Beltran homered to left. 4 -M Sweeney reached on infield single to shortstop. 1 -J Gonzalez grounded into double play, shortstop to second to first, M Sweeney out at second. MB=5 CHICAGO SOX 1ST -Bottom of the 1st inning -J Uribe doubled to right.2 -J Valentin doubled to deep right, J Uribe scored. 3,1 -M Ordonez flied out to right, J Valentin to third..5*2 -F Thomas walked. .5 -C Lee flied out to center, J Valentin scored. .5*2 -P Konerko walked, F Thomas to second. .5*2 JU=3 JV=4 MO=.5 FT=1 CL=.5 PK=.5 KANSAS CITY 2ND -J Randa singled to center. 1 MB=1 CHICAGO SOX 2ND -A Rowand homered to left. 4 -J Uribe singled to center. 1 -J Valentin singled to right, J Uribe to second. 1,.5*2 AR=4 JU=1.5 JV=1.5 KANSAS CITY 3RD MB=0 KANSAS CITY 4TH -J Gonzalez homered to right. 4 -J Randa walked. .5 MB=4.5 KANSAS CITY 5TH MB=0 CHICAGO SOX 5TH -M Ordonez singled to right. 1 -F Thomas homered to left center, M Ordonez scored. 5.5,1.5 MO=2.5 FT=5.5 KANSAS CITY 6TH -C Beltran walked. .5 -M Sweeney singled to right center, C Beltran to second. 1.5,.5 -J Gonzalez flied out to center, C Beltran to third. .5*2 -J Randa singled to center, C Beltran scored, M Sweeney to second. 2,.5*2 -B Santiago doubled to deep left, M Sweeney and J Randa scored. 4.5,1,1.5 MB=13.5 KANSAS CITY 7TH -M Jackson relieved M Buehrle. -M Lopez walked. .5 MJ=.5 CHICAGO SOX 7TH -J Uribe walked. .5 -J Uribe picked off first. -.5 -J Valentin walked. .5 -J Valentin to second on passed ball by B Santiago. .5 -M Ordonez intentionally walked. .5 JV=1 KANSAS CITY 8TH MJ=0 KANSAS CITY 9TH -D Marte relieved M Jackson. -Top of the 9th inning -K Harvey singled to right. 1 -A Guiel walked. .5 DM=1.5 KANSAS CITY 10TH -M Sweeney singled to right. 1 DM=1 CHICAGO SOX 10TH -M Ordonez homered to left. 4 MO=4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 GoG: Mark Buehrle (helped himself out) You're kidding. Valentin made 2 above average plays on Berroa, Beltran and 2 of his 3 DPs were definately non-routine, especially the one with Marte with game on the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rafacosta Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 You're kidding. Valentin made 2 above average plays on Berroa, Beltran and 2 of his 3 DPs were definately non-routine, especially the one with Marte with game on the line. He did all that!? He still sucks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerbaho-WG Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 I think all of this may border on the stupidity of Elias' "stat" known as the productive out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 I think all of this may border on the stupidity of Elias' "stat" known as the productive out. Non-mainstream is not = stupid. And of course there is such a thing as a productive out -- not that one'd know what it is watching the Sox the last 3 years. Hell, I myself forgot what it is -- what with the abundance of insipid pop ups and GIDP's and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUGGERNAUT Posted April 16, 2004 Author Share Posted April 16, 2004 Non-mainstream is not = stupid. And of course there is such a thing as a productive out -- not that one'd know what it is watching the Sox the last 3 years. Hell, I myself forgot what it is. BRANDO! I RELY ON YOU TO TELL ME about the BIG plays! I can't always watch or listen to the games so I need YOUR INPUT to weigh in on the Glove of the Game award. There are no pts associated with the Glove of the Game award with the exception that if a player is close in winning either Bat of the Game or Arm of the Game & they win Glove of the Game that will be enough to win Player of the Game. That's the big enchilada. This will no longer be the thread for the SOX scoring system. I did find flaws in the first week. Specifically .5 pts are a b**** to work with, there needed to be a greater separation between bases earned by hits & non-hits, & there need to be greater weight in steals. All of this has been considered in the new scoring system which is now in the v2 (version 2) thread. The biggest flaw was with the pitchers. In trying to keep it simple, the opposing team's offensive production was totaled & then applied to SOX pitchers. The lowest score was the best. But the problem is that when you award both runners & hitters on the same play the pitcher is double taxed. In my opinion that's grossly unfair to the pitchers & gets out of whack real quick when a pitcher gives up a big inning. Botch is a perfect example. So the new scoring system will only reflect pts by the opposition as they relate to hitters & steals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 Didn't see the whole game, but off the top ov me noggin' I think Lee took away an RBI triple to save Wrong's ass. Perez gunned the guy down at 3rd. Uribe had an above average play. Paulie snagged a DP line-out. Kong's was most important (the game is over right there and then if he doesn't get it and it's a 2-run double) but Lee's was the toughest. Friday's GoG: Carlos Lee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Saturday's GoG: Ordonez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 I'm so lost..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 18, 2004 Share Posted April 18, 2004 Sunday's G.o.G: Willie Harris. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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