witesoxfan Posted April 13, 2004 Share Posted April 13, 2004 I am not at all surprised to see him struggle. For those of you unaware of it, Tom Verducci, a writer for SI, has this thing that he follows called the year-after effect. It is quite intriguing and in most cases, holds true. Last year, it kind of looked like Mark Buehrle suffered from it a little, and Jon Garland did to an extent as well. The year-after effect is basically a pitcher who is 26 or under that pitches 40 more innings in a season then he did the year before(in the article I am looking at right now, the pitchers he uses are Chad Durbin and Chris George of the Royals...this from March 4th of 2003). What I am suggesting is that while Loaiza is not 26 or younger, and while he did not pitch 40 more innings than he did in a previous year, he will probably suffer atleast partially from the year-after effect. To me, the year-after effect is what Verducci says it is, but is also when a pitcher becomes a dependable pitcher and takes on a large portion of his team's workload. Loaiza threw 226 innings last year, and while that is not even 30 more innings then his previous career high, it was a significant increase from the years he did not throw 190 innings(duh). Really, all I'm saying is that he could be rough for the first part of the year, and the only thing that can be done to help get through it is to let him work through it. If the Sox can get him 10 runs a game, that will help him work through it a whole hell of a lot. BTW, for anyone who wants to read the article I'm using... The Year-After Effect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 13, 2004 Share Posted April 13, 2004 V--La--See-T E-Lo must throw 92-94 with control in order to be successful. Only when hitters are looking heat, will his change, slider and especially that cutter make them look silly. He hasn't really had that since last August. when he blanked the Yankees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted April 13, 2004 Share Posted April 13, 2004 Every one knew he wasn't going to have the same year or better as last year, it's just one of those things... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted April 13, 2004 Share Posted April 13, 2004 The "year after effect" sounds like a scientific version of what they call the sophmore jinx applied to rookies. I am thinking too that as long as the Sox get 10 runs a game and win then we can wait for E LO to rebound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 13, 2004 Share Posted April 13, 2004 Year after effect is a good theory, but in Elo's case I'd throw it out the door. Its not really the year after, its just in general when a pitcher has thrown a lot more innings then they have at any other time in their career. In regards to Elo, he's a veteran and has pitched a while and his body is matured and developed. This sympton should not get him. While his numbers will likely get worse, In this case I don't think he fits in with this phenomenon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 13, 2004 Share Posted April 13, 2004 Give him a break. Last year he had a few games where he got screwed, only giving up a few runs where the offense didn't come through - he deserves a couple of these types of games, where he might not be on his game and the offense puts up a load of runs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 If the Sox can get Loaiza a few early wins ( like they have so far ) and keep him confident, he'll continue to improve his location. I still think he's good for 16-19 wins this year. Despite the long balls allowed, he seems to be able to get out of jams when he has to. He fields his position very well to help himself, and he has good instincts. I think he'll be just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxShuf Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 hey 2-0 so far. best record in baseball, with a bunch of others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Socks Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 I heard the wind was really blowing out today. Loaiza will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxShuf Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 I heard the wind was really blowing out today. Loaiza will be fine. great point, but he needs to stick with what he did last year, and keep the ball down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 great point, but he needs to stick with what he did last year, and keep the ball down. but giving up home runs helps prevent Jose and Uribe from making errors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 For those of you at the game (I was also at the game), did you see Sweeney's homer? It was a pitch up in the zone, and Sweeney made a great swing on it, basically tomahawking it out of the park. The Berroa and the Guiel homers he hung some pitches and it got hit hard, and I didn't see the Tony G homer. I agree with Critic - if you keep Loaiza's confidence up when he's struggling by helping him out on offense, that will help him out in the long run during this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxShuf Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 the magician will be just fine. Garland is hte key to the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Anyone seen Cy Young Halladay pitch yet, don't worry about our pitcher who's 2-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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