BrandoFan Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Sox need a bona-friggin-fied ACE if they are to challenge for the World Series title, we all agree on that. Well with all this Randy Johnson talk (he is very old and very expensive and possibly injured), how can I not see this guy: --Makes only 6 Mill this year, so with good prospects won't cost much --I am sure Toronto won't deal him to Boston; Sox snaggin' him also prevents the Cubs from getting their grubby paws on him as a Prior replacement -- I am sure Hendry already drew up the plans of dealing for him. --Halladay-Buerhle-Loaiza-Garland as playoff rotation is something I can get behind. He is better than guys like Millwood or Washburn, struggling right now so his value may not be quite as high as it would be later on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxShuf Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Since when do the sox spend money??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Why would Toronto trade him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 14, 2004 Author Share Posted April 14, 2004 Since when do the sox spend money??? You have a point. Then again, I am just throwing out ideas. I am not naive as to think that JR gives a f*** -- but say he did give a f*** this year, then Halladay will be just an excellent pick-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 14, 2004 Author Share Posted April 14, 2004 Why would Toronto trade him? They are 1-6 and on the way to 4th place. They are losing money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 I could be wrong but didn't Halladay just sign an extension this off season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 They did just resign him to a 4-year, $42 mill deal, just as point. And to get him, I'd imagine it would cost Reed, Honel, possibly Cotts, and another pretty damn good prospect too(maybe Rauch), and I'd say they'd have to take on Koch/Konerko to offset some of the salary, and if they took Koch, I'd want Speier/Lopez/Lightenberg as well(and I don't believe they can trade Lightenberg until June, as he was a signed as a FA). To get to the point of my post and to answer your question...Reed, Honel, Cotts, Rauch, and Koch for Halladay and Lopez(Acquilino I believe is his name...solid reliever)...yes, I do it. You never, ever let a possibility of winning it all slip by. If it costs, the farm, so be it. Winning it all can do wonders for a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxShuf Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 how about victor zambrano, early but effective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Delgado will be the one the jays get rid of not Halladay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Delgado will be the one the jays get rid of not Halladay. I'll take Delgado too. A 3-4-5 punch of Maggs, Delgado, and Thomas has a nice ring to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Since when do the sox spend money??? I believe the Sox payroll this year is around $65-$68 million, up from $51 million last year. Sounds to me they have spent money this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 I'll take Delgado too. A 3-4-5 punch of Maggs, Delgado, and Thomas has a nice ring to it. Yeah but 38 million for three players doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxShuf Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Delgado would be a dream situation, but where do we put him??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 14, 2004 Author Share Posted April 14, 2004 They did just resign him to a 4-year, $42 mill deal, just as point. And to get him, I'd imagine it would cost Reed, Honel, possibly Cotts, and another pretty damn good prospect too(maybe Rauch), and I'd say they'd have to take on Koch/Konerko to offset some of the salary, and if they took Koch, I'd want Speier/Lopez/Lightenberg as well(and I don't believe they can trade Lightenberg until June, as he was a signed as a FA). To get to the point of my post and to answer your question...Reed, Honel, Cotts, Rauch, and Koch for Halladay and Lopez(Acquilino I believe is his name...solid reliever)...yes, I do it. You never, ever let a possibility of winning it all slip by. If it costs, the farm, so be it. Winning it all can do wonders for a team. He doesn't make a lot this year, and if he brings the Sox to the promised land....well, I am getting carried away here. Let's just say, Sox won't be stuck with him because he'll always have value for teams like the Dodgers and Red Sox. Throw them Wing and Pacheco and they can suck it. They aren't exactly in the position to dictate s***. No on Reed and Cotts and Sweeney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 14, 2004 Author Share Posted April 14, 2004 Delgado would be a dream situation, but where do we put him??? When it comes to the playoffs....pitching, pitching and more pitching. Delgado is nice and all, but too expensive and is a hitter -- we have those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Yeah but 38 million for three players doesn't. This is true Which is why we'd get him in June or July, Toronto would take on Konerko, Koch, Borchard, and Rauch, and we'd also get Kerry Lightenberg(one of Kenny's infamous trades where he trades a positional player for a player that plays the same position...Sirotka for Wells, Wells for Ritchie, Foulke for Koch, and essentially El Duque for Colon...this is a 1Bman for a 1Bman and a reliever for a reliever) And Toronto gets to experience the Billy Koch roller coaster all over again. At that point, we are really only paying for $4 mill of Delgado's $18 mill in a sense. It would work for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 14, 2004 Author Share Posted April 14, 2004 I believe the Sox payroll this year is around $65-$68 million, up from $51 million last year. Sounds to me they have spent money this year. Come on, he clearly meant "spend enough to win". Cubs spend the money. Sox don't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Come on, he clearly meant "spend enough to win". Cubs spend the money. Sox don't. The Cubs make significally more, they should be spending more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 He doesn't make a lot this year, and if he brings the Sox to the promised land....well, I am getting carried away here. Let's just say, Sox won't be stuck with him because he'll always have value for teams like the Dodgers and Red Sox. Throw them Wing and Pacheco and they can suck it. They aren't exactly in the position to dictate s***. No on Reed and Cotts and Sweeney. No chance in hell the Jays do that deal their GM is far to smart for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WSoxShuf Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 Though the Cubs threw a ton of money away with MAddux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 14, 2004 Author Share Posted April 14, 2004 The Cubs make significally more, they should be spending more. Assuming the "having money" part is true (and we don't really know), it still doesn't change the fact that Sox do not spend. 50 Mill last year was laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 BTW, to get Halladay you might have to give up Reed, Cotts and Sweeney (or Anderson), and the Jay's might still turn it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 14, 2004 Author Share Posted April 14, 2004 No chance in hell the Jays do that deal their GM is far to smart for that. You're probably right. Still, better to deal with him than with Billy Beane when it comes to Timbo Hudson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 They are 1-6 and on the way to 4th place. They are losing money. Carlos Delgado makes a truck load of money. They'd ship him out way before Roy Halladay. I don't see the Jays trading him this season, or withint the next few years. He's young, and a stud. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilMonkey Posted April 14, 2004 Share Posted April 14, 2004 There is always Seattle to trade with. 1-5 so far, losing money, not hitting at all, could be looking for some bats. Pinero, Franklin, Garcia, Meche, Moyer (assuming his last two starts are not going to be repeated for the rest of the year!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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