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Which player will win the most PoGs?  

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  1. 1. Which player will win the most PoGs?

    • Magglio Ordonez
      19
    • Frank Thomas
      0
    • Carlos Lee
      0
    • Paul Konerko
      3
    • Joe Crede
      2
    • Jose Valentin
      1
    • Miguel Olivo
      1
    • Aaron Rowand
      1
    • Wille Harris
      1
    • Juan Uribe
      1


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Sat, May 1 v TOR W4-3: Way to go Joe!

 

POG: Joe Crede (hon mention: Mark Buehrle)

 

AOG: Mark Buehrle (20, 7IP/2R)

BOG: Joe Crede (87, RON 1 HR, 2 RBI, 1B)

GoG: Joe Crede

 

Note: The POG selection was very tough on this one. But Joe's D helped Mark out, &

his 2 big ab's off Halliday gave the SOX the lead & the win.

 

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MB(20)=30+45+0+12+50+0+0

CP=0+0

DM=60+0

ST=0

 

JU(54)=10+22+22

PK(21)=5+11+5

TP(26)=24+2

SA=2

WH(19)=5+9+5

JC(87)=70+12+5

MO(25)=7+2+16

FT(14)=5+9

RG=2

 

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TORONTO 1ST

-C Woodward tripled to deep right center. 30

MB=30

 

CHICAGO SOX 1ST

-J Uribe reached on infield single to third. 10

JU=10

 

TORONTO 2ND

-K Cash singled to right center. 10

-O Hudson doubled to deep center, K Cash scored. 35,4

MB=45

 

CHICAGO SOX 2ND

-P Konerko walked. 5

PK=5

 

TORONTO 3RD

 

CHICAGO SOX 3RD

-T Perez doubled to right. 20

-S Alomar Jr sacrificed to pitcher, T Perez to third. 2,2

-W Harris sacrificed to catcher, T Perez scored. 5,2

TP=24

SA=2

WH=5

 

TORONTO 4TH

-C Delgado walked. 5

-E Hinske safe at first on error by pitcher M Buehrle, C Delgado to second. 5

-K Cash grounded out to third, C Delgado to third, E Hinske to second. 2

MB=12

 

CHICAGO SOX 4TH

 

TORONTO 5TH

-C Woodward hit by pitch. 5

-V Wells singled to center, C Woodward to second. 15

-C Delgado singled to left, C Woodward scored, V Wells to second. 30

MB=50

 

CHICAGO SOX 5TH

-P Konerko walked. 5

-J Crede homered to left center, P Konerko scored. 70,6

-W Harris walked. 5

-J Uribe singled to right center, W Harris to third. 20,4

-M Ordonez walked, J Uribe to second. 7,2

PK=11

JC=70

WH=9

JU=22

MO=7

 

TORONTO 6TH

MB=0

 

CHICAGO SOX 6TH

 

TORONTO 7TH

MB=0

-C Politte relieved M Buehrle.

CP=0

 

CHICAGO SOX 7TH

 

TORONTO 8TH

CP=0

-D Marte relieved C Politte.

-C Delgado homered to right. 50

-J Phelps singled to right center. 10

DM=60

 

CHICAGO SOX 8TH

-J Uribe doubled to deep left. 20

-M Ordonez grounded out to shortstop, J Uribe to third. 2,2

-F Thomas intentionally walked. 5

JU=22

Mo=2

FT=5

 

TORONTO 9TH

DM=0

 

CHICAGO SOX 9TH

-J Crede singled to left. 10

-T Perez sacrificed to pitcher, J Crede to second. 2,2

-W Harris walked. 5

JC=12

TP=2

WH=5

 

TORONTO 10TH

-S Takatsu relieved D Marte.

ST=0

 

CHICAGO SOX 10TH

-M Ordonez singled to left. 10

-F Thomas walked, M Ordonez to second. 7,2

-R Gload sacrificed to third, M Ordonez to third, F Thomas to second. 2,2,2

-P Konerko intentionally walked. 5

-J Crede hit sacrifice fly to right, M Ordonez scored. 5,2

MO=16

FT=9

RG=2

PK=5

JC=5

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Sat, May 1b v TOR L10-6: Wright=Wrong!

 

POG: Miguel Olivo (Did all he could)

 

AOG: Billy Koch (hitless 9th)

BOG: Miguel Olivo (101, 1B, RON 1,2 HR)

GoG: Miguel Olivo (Throw)

 

Note: Neil Cotts is NOT the 5th starter either!

Sun will be the last game for this thread. A new thread will be started for May.

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DW(53)=17+167+12+77 SUCKS!

JA(31)=15+52+25

MJ(13)=0+25

NC=85 WORST!

ST=10

BK=0 (HOLY COW!)

 

CL(10)=5+5

MOL(101)=16+85

JU=70

MO=10

PK=16

JC=21

FT(44)=10+27+7

AR(15)=5+10

KD=16

WH=12

FT=7

 

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TORONTO 1ST

-F Catalanotto singled to center. 10

-V Wells walked, F Catalanotto to second. 7

DW=17

 

CHICAGO SOX 1ST

 

TORONTO 2ND

-E Hinske homered to right. 50

-G Zaun singled to center. 10

-O Hudson homered to right, G Zaun scored. 70

-F Catalanotto singled to right center. 10

-V Wells walked, F Catalanotto to second. 7

DW=167

 

CHICAGO SOX 2ND

-C Lee walked. 5

CL=5

 

TORONTO 3RD

-J Phelps singled to center. 10

-E Hinske grounded into fielder's choice to second, J Phelps out at second. 2

DW=12

 

CHICAGO SOX 3RD

-M Olivo reached on infield single to third. 10

-J Uribe homered to left, M Olivo scored. 70,6

-M Ordonez reached on infield single to third. 10

MOL=16

JU=70

MO=10

 

TORONTO 4TH

-C Woodward singled to center. 10

-H Clark walked, C Woodward to second. 7

-F Catalanotto singled to center, C Woodward scored, H Clark to second. 30

-V Wells singled to left, H Clark scored, F Catalanotto to second. 30

DW=77

-J Adkins relieved D Wright.

-F Catalanotto to third, V Wells to second on passed ball by M Olivo. 5

-C Delgado intentionally walked. 5

-J Phelps grounded into fielder's choice to third, F Catalanotto scored, V Wells out at third, C Delgado to second.5

JA=15

 

CHICAGO SOX 4TH

-P Konerko singled to left. 10

-J Crede singled to left, P Konerko to second. 15,2

-M Olivo homered to left, P Konerko and J Crede scored. 85,4,6

PK=16

JC=21

MOL=85

 

TORONTO 5TH

-C Woodward singled to left. 10

-H Clark grounded out to second, C Woodward to second. 2

-F Catalanotto singled to left, C Woodward scored. 25

-V Wells singled to center, F Catalanotto to second. 15

JA=52

 

CHICAGO SOX 5TH

-F Thomas singled to deep left. 10

FT=10

 

TORONTO 6TH

-E Hinske walked.5

-E Hinske caught stealing second, catcher to shortstop.-5

-G Zaun doubled to right. 20

-O Hudson walked. 5

JA=25

MJ=0

 

CHICAGO SOX 6TH

-A Rowand walked. 5

AR=5

 

TORONTO 7TH

-F Catalanotto doubled to center. 20

-V Wells walked. 5

MJ=25

-N Cotts relieved M Jackson.

-C Delgado singled to center, F Catalanotto scored, V Wells to second. 30

-J Phelps singled to left, V Wells to third, C Delgado to second. 20

-E Hinske hit sacrifice fly to center, V Wells scored. 5

-G Zaun singled to center, C Delgado scored, J Phelps to second. 30

NC=85

 

CHICAGO SOX 7TH

-K Dransfeldt singled to left. 10

-F Thomas doubled to left, K Dransfeldt to third. 25,4

-C Lee safe at first on throwing error by pitcher M Nakamura, K Dransfeldt scored, F Thomas to third. 5,2,2

KD=16

FT=27

CL=5

 

TORONTO 8TH

-S Takatsu relieved N Cotts.

-F Catalanotto singled to left center.10

ST=10

 

CHICAGO SOX 8TH

-A Rowand singled to center. 10

AR=10

 

TORONTO 9TH

-B Koch relieved S Takatsu.

BK=0 (HOLY COW!)

 

CHICAGO SOX 9TH

-W Harris singled to right. 10

-F Thomas walked, W Harris to second. 7,2

WH=12

FT=7

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Sun, May 2 v TOR W3-2: Black Jack Garland?

 

POG: Jon Garland (7+ip, 1R)

 

AOG: Jon Garland (7+ip, 1R)

BOG: Frank Thomas (HR difference maker)

GoG: Juan Uribe (3 big plays, saving 2-3 runs. Hon Ment: C Lee (1 run saving throw)

 

Note: The GoG was close because of the momentum shift C Lee's play had.

If that run scores it completely shifts momentum to the Jays. Grant it was only

one play but the value on that play was great. Overall Uribe made some very big

plays to save runs including a strong armed DP. If Uribe doesn't make those plays

the momentum shifts even earlier in the ball game.

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JG(22)=32+10+12+0+50+20+30+20

DM=20

CP=0

BK=10

 

WH(44)=24+5+15

JU=2

MO=5

CL=10

AR=24

MOL(7)=2+5

FT=50

 

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TORONTO 1ST

-H Clark walked. 5

-V Wells grounded out to third, H Clark to second. 2

-C Delgado singled to center, H Clark scored. 25

JG=32

 

CHICAGO SOX 1ST

-W Harris doubled to left. 20

-J Uribe sacrificed to pitcher, W Harris to third. 2,2

-M Ordonez hit sacrifice fly to right, W Harris scored. 5,2

WH=24

JU=2

MO=5

 

TORONTO 2ND

-G Zaun singled to right. 10

JG=10

 

CHICAGO SOX 2ND

-C Lee singled to left. 10

CL=10

 

TORONTO 3RD

-F Catalanotto singled to left center. 10

-V Wells grounded into fielder's choice to shortstop, F Catalanotto out at second. 2

JG=12

 

CHICAGO SOX 3RD

-A Rowand doubled to deep left. 20

-M Olivo sacrificed to pitcher, A Rowand to third. 2,2

-W Harris hit sacrifice fly to left, A Rowand scored. 5,2

-J Uribe walked. 5

-J Uribe caught stealing second, catcher to second. -5

AR=24

MOL=2

WH=5

 

TORONTO 4TH

JG=0

 

CHICAGO SOX 4TH

-F Thomas homered to left center. 50

FT=50

 

TORONTO 5TH

-G Zaun singled to left center. 10

-C Gomez reached on infield single to shortstop, G Zaun to second. 20

-F Catalanotto singled to right, G Zaun to third, C Gomez to second. 20

JG=50

 

CHICAGO SOX 5TH

 

TORONTO 6TH

-O Hudson doubled to deep left center.20

JG=20

 

CHICAGO SOX 6TH

 

TORONTO 7TH

-Top of the 7th inning

-G Zaun singled to right. 10

-C Gomez singled to right, G Zaun to third. 20

JG=30

 

CHICAGO SOX 7TH

 

TORONTO 8TH

-V Wells doubled to deep left center. 20

JG=20

-D Marte relieved J Garland.

-V Wells to third on wild pitch by D Marte. 10

-R Johnson walked. 5

-O Hudson hit sacrifice fly to right, V Wells scored. 5

DM=20

-C Politte relieved D Marte.

CP=0

 

CHICAGO SOX 8TH

-M Olivo safe at first on error by third baseman H Clark. 5

-W Harris reached on bunt single to catcher, M Olivo to second. 15

MOL=5

WH=15

 

TORONTO 9TH

-B Koch relieved C Politte.

-G Zaun singled to left center. 10

BK=10

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Sun GoG: Uribe

 

Garland snagged a liner and Caballo made a good throw to plate for once (he later misplayed a foul ball)....but Uribe had a tough FO, completed a crucial bases loaded DP with Wells busting to 1st and prevented the runner from going to 3rd on a hit-n-run with no outs. That's potentially two runs averted.

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RACE TO BE THE BEST !!! ending 5/2/2004

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MVP of SOX for Apr: Magglio Ordonez (Hon mention: Miguel Olivo)

 

Indiv Game Honors:

PoG: MOL(3), JG(3), MO(3), FT(3), SS(2), EL(2), JC(2), SA(1), MB(1), JV(1), PK(1), ST(1), JU(1)

 

AoG: MB(3), BK(3), JG(3), JA(3), NC(2), MJ(2), SS(2), CP(1), EL(2), DW(1), DM(1), ST(1)

BoG: MO(6), FT(5), JU(3), JV(2), MOL(2), JC(2), WH(1), CL(1), SA(1), PK(1)

GoG: MOL(6), JC(5), CL(3), JV(2), MO(2), WH(2), AR(1), TP(1), JU(1), MB(1)

 

PoG=Player of the Game

AoG=Arm of the Game

BoG=Bat of the Game

GoG=Glove of the Game

 

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Running Totals:

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Starter Arms: JG < SS < EL < DW < MB

DW(157/4=40)=43+34+27+53

SS(110/4=27)=32+10+17+51

EL(139/5=28)=24+40+4+19+32

MB(250/6=42)=28+10+38+121+33+20

JG(109/5=22)=14+32+24+27+22

 

Relief Arms: ST < NC < CP < BK < MJ < DM < JA

ST(122/8=15)=85+0+17+0+5+5+0+10

BK(283/12=24)=45+10+37+5+175+0+10+10+34+7+0+10

DM(287/9=32)=155+10+13+10+0+30+19+30+20

NC(201/9=22)=10+13+30+0+20+20+15+8+85

JA(196/6=35)=12+5+10+138+0+31

MJ(195/7=28)=27+10+3+112+30+0+13

CP(228/10=23)=35+10+10+11+0+5+80+67+0+0

 

Starter Bats: MO > PK > FT > CL > JC > WH > AR

MO(1007)=25+84+137+100+23+17+42+73+5+15+20+41+107+10+14+34+5+87+86+52+25+10+5

PK(768)=89+7+32+5+29+111+64+7+25+50+76+21+19+75+70+5+51+21+16

FT(766)=21+9+19+36+48+42+77+25+20+31+20+62+64+16+66+24+61+14+44+7+50

CL(668)=76+50+40+55+54+42+5+2+45+20+5+50+24+32+10+2+67+54+15+10+10

WH(564)=2+47+89+20+6+5+30+10+57+7+19+10+68+44+26+47+19+12+44

AR(412)=18+16+24+20+11+30+50+40+91+29+40+13+15+10+24

JC(601)=14+38+66+30+20+38+50+62+10+5+9+55+96+87+21

 

Relief Bats: JU > MOL > RG > SA > TP > KD

JU(662)=2+28+60+36+54+34+14+30+15+75+49+93+41+54+70+2

MOL(498)=85+53+4+66+102+10+23+45+2+101+7

RG(218)=15+2+51+60+19+65+4+2

KD(112)=4+10+34+6+42+16

SA(191)=98+27+25+2+10+27+2

TP(165)=48+14+2+14+61+26

 

DL Bats:

JV(478)=49+32+70+96+68+10+64+10+5+72

 

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The totals have been updated for all games in April (ending 5/2).

 

It's no surprise that Maggs leads in the bats, but it is surprising that with a 250 pt

edge over Koney & Thomas he only had 6 BoGs. One more than Frank. Still Maggs

had more games with some production than any other player.

 

Miguel Olivo is the franchise player for the White Sox. Second only to the phenomenal Uribe in offensive production, his D skils are arguably the best in the game. In the first month alone he has 6 GoGs & it almost looks like this is a preview

of things to come. We might start seeing some comparisons to I-ROD in his prime

before to long.

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ALC RPG SAG RATINGS (Apr 2004 ending 5/2):

A 1 Thomas, Frank CHW R 11.56

A 2 Belliard, Ron CLE R 11.18

A 3 Beltran, Carlos KC B 10.81

A 4 Ford, Lew MIN R 10.80

A 7 Uribe, Juan CHW R 9.47

A 12 Hafner, Travis CLE L 8.10

A 14 Harvey, Ken KC R 7.92

A 15 White, Rondell DET R 7.8

A 18 Jones, Jacque MIN L 7.39

A 19 Stewart, Shannon MIN R 7.37

A 22 Rodriguez, Ivan DET R 7.11

A 23 Glaus, Troy ANA R 7.05

A 26 Sweeney, Mike KC R 6.82

A 28 Koskie, Corey MIN L 6.6

A 29 Lawton, Matt CLE L 6.60

A 30 Konerko, Paul CHW R 6.51

A 34 Ordonez, Magglio CHW R 6.19

A 42 Guillen, Carlos DET B 5.79

A 43 Martinez, Victor CLE B 5.77

A 46 Mientkiewicz, Doug MIN L 5.59

A 49 Pena, Carlos DET L 5.42

A 50 Gerut, Jody CLE L 5.37

A 53 Randa, Joe KC R 5.25

A 54 Vizquel, Omar CLE B 5.19

A 56 Lee, Carlos CHW R 5.08

A 57 Graffanino, Tony KC R 5.07

A 58 Gonzalez, Juan KC R 5.04

A 62 Blanco, Henry MIN R 4.80

A 65 Blake, Casey CLE R 4.52

A 68 Harris, Willie CHW L 4.32

A 72 Sanchez, Alex DET L 4.11

A 74 Vina, Fernando DET L 3.96

A 77 Crede, Joe CHW R 3.79

A 82 Higginson, Bobby DET L 3.63

A 84 Guzman, Cristian MIN B 3.56

A 89 Monroe, Craig DET R 3.07

 

Everyday position players: MIN > CHW > CLE > DET > KC

 

B 5 Inge, Brandon DET R 8.10

B 8 Broussard, Ben CLE L 7.33

B 10 Olivo, Miguel CHW R 7.24

B 17 Stairs, Matt KC L 6.62

B 18 Valentin, Jose CHW B 6.42

B 19 Offerman, Jose MIN B 6.41

B 20 Punto, Nick MIN B 6.31

B 28 Rowand, Aaron CHW R 4.70

B 34 Santiago, Benito KC R 4.28

B 35 Escobar, Alex CLE R 4.25

B 36 Munson, Eric DET L 4.22

B 37 Guiel, Aaron KC L 4.16

B 38 Cuddyer, Michael MIN R 4.07

B 39 Merloni, Lou CLE R 3.88

B 40 Blanco, Andres KC B 3.85

B 42 Gload, Ross CHW L 3.72

B 44 Hunter, Torii MIN R 3.53

B 51 Alomar, Sandy Jr. CHW R 3.22

B 54 Laker, Tim CLE R 3.07

B 56 Rivas, Luis MIN R 2.89

B 57 Perez, Timo CHW L 2.83

B 58 Crisp, Coco CLE B 2.55

B 61 Berroa, Angel KC R 2.35

B 62 Lopez, Mendy KC R 2.09

B 65 Norton, Greg DET B 1.89

 

Part-time players: CHW > MIN > CLE > DET > KC

 

C 1 Mauer, Joe MIN L 94.28

C 3 Young, Dmitri DET B 19.56

C 5 Stinnett, Kelly KC R 8.82

C 7 Ryan, Michael MIN L 8.14

C 9 Bowen, Rob MIN B 5.93

C 11 Dransfeldt, Kelly CHW R 5.19

C 15 LeCroy, Matthew MIN R 3.68

C 20 Infante, Omar DET R 2.36

C 24 Shelton, Chris DET R 1.81

 

Reserves: MIN > DET > KC > CHW > CLE

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ALC NPERA Apr 2004 (ending 5/2)

A 1 Sabathia, C.C. CLE L 1.96

A 13 Loaiza, Esteban CHW R 3.33

A 14 Maroth, Mike DET L 3.36

A 16 Santana, Johan MIN L 3.42

A 18 Lee, Cliff CLE L 3.55

A 23 Garland, Jon CHW R 3.91

A 25 Buehrle, Mark CHW L 3.97

A 27 Silva, Carlos MIN R 4.06

A 28 Davis, Jason CLE R 4.11

A 30 Schoeneweis, Scott CHW L 4.13

A 31 Robertson, Nate DET L 4.13

A 33 Johnson, Jason DET R 4.18

A 35 Bonderman, Jeremy DET R 4.27

A 37 Radke, Brad MIN R 4.39

A 42 Affeldt, Jeremy KC L 4.91

A 44 Anderson, Brian KC L 5.24

A 47 Lohse, Kyle MIN R 5.81

A 50 Cornejo, Nate DET R 7.26

 

Starters: CHW > DET > MIN > CLE > KC

 

B 5 Field, Nate KC R 1.00

B 10 Fultz, Aaron MIN L 1.45

B 12 Westbrook, Jake CLE R 1.58

B 17 Takatsu, Shingo CHW R 1.86

B 19 Cotts, Neal CHW L 2.02

B 22 Rincon, Juan MIN R 2.23

B 26 Grimsley, Jason KC R 2.40

B 30 Jackson, Mike CHW R 2.80

B 31 Walker, Jamie DET L 2.82

B 32 Koch, Billy CHW R 2.84

B 33 Romero, J.C. MIN L 2.91

B 42 Betancourt, Rafael CLE R 3.32

B 45 Sullivan, Scott KC R 3.50

B 46 Gobble, Jimmy KC L 3.51

B 50 Stanford, Jason CLE L 3.62

B 52 Patterson, Danny DET R 3.97

B 55 Roa, Joe MIN R 4.00

B 57 Nathan, Joe MIN R 4.02

B 58 Reyes, Dennys KC L 4.09

B 59 Camp, Shawn KC R 4.26

B 61 Levine, Al DET R 4.47

B 62 Politte, Cliff CHW R 4.49

B 63 Yan, Esteban DET R 4.53

B 64 D'Amico, Jeff C. CLE R 4.59

B 69 Adkins, Jon CHW R 4.94

B 71 Marte, Damaso CHW L 5.35

B 72 Pulido, Carlos MIN L 5.38

B 77 Knotts, Gary DET R 5.87

B 79 Cressend, Jack CLE R 6.40

B 80 Wright, Dan CHW R 6.60

B 82 Greisinger, Seth MIN R 6.82

B 85 May, Darrell KC L 7.01

B 86 Durbin, Chad CLE R 7.10

B 89 Stewart, Scott CLE L 7.84

B 90 Colyer, Steve DET L 8.53

 

Relievers & failed starters: CHW > MIN > KC > CLE > DET

 

C 3 Huisman, Justin KC R .20

C 10 MacDougal, Mike KC R 2.10

C 11 Cerda, Jaime KC L 2.15

C 15 Mulholland, Terry MIN L 2.55

C 20 Urbina, Ugueth DET R 3.79

C 21 Jimenez, Jose CLE R 3.80

C 24 Carrasco, D.J. KC R 4.44

C 27 Robertson, Jeriome CLE L 4.73

C 28 White, Rick CLE R 4.90

C 33 Lee, Dave CLE R 6.96

C 34 Appier, Kevin KC R 7.01

C 36 Laker, Tim CLE R 7.51

C 38 Tadano, Kazuhito CLE R 8.34

C 40 Leskanic, Curtis KC R 8.53

C 43 Villacis, Eduardo KC R 9.44

C 45 Riske, David CLE R 11.48

C 49 Anderson, Jason CLE R 16.38

 

Temps: KC > CLE > MIN > DET > CHW (we don't have any! :))

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