BrandoFan Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 I miss D'Angelo. Amidst a horrible June lost were April, May, July and September. He would literally have to try NOT to have a 360 OBP. Jimenez-Uribe platoon at 2B would be f***ing lethal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Problem with Jimenez wasn't getting on all the time, he was too damn stupid to know how to stay on the bases. He was always finding ways to get himself out. He was about the dumbest player out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 i don't care how good he's doing, dj has no idea how to play the game of baseball, he killed us too many times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 Dropped popup in Oakland. Nuff said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 16, 2004 Author Share Posted April 16, 2004 Granted, Jimenez is bad defensively (then agan so is Todd Walker), but his baserunning is not nearly as bad as it's presented -- he can still score from 1st on a double, go from 1st to 3rd on a single to right, tag up from 2nd on a medium-depth flyball to RF, etc, etc. With Cinci, he hit got on base, played tolerable defense and didn't get picked off much if at all. Right now, he looks sharp even when he makes OUTS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winninguglyin83 Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 when Jimenez learns to act as if he cares, I'll learn to act as if I care that he's gone. A thousand Yankees, Padres and White Sox can't be wrong. Good freakin riddance. Ted Washington has more lateral range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 16, 2004 Author Share Posted April 16, 2004 Dropped popup in Oakland. Nuff said. Omar Vizquel had a ball go between his legs last year, so 1-2 plays don't make a season. Speaking of dropped pop ups.....Both Crede and Uribe did that as well and they are considered to be future Gold Glovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steff Posted April 16, 2004 Share Posted April 16, 2004 when Jimenez learns to act as if he cares, I'll learn to act as if I care that he's gone. A thousand Yankees, Padres and White Sox can't be wrong. Good freakin riddance. Amen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 16, 2004 Author Share Posted April 16, 2004 Wow, Todd Walker is making Jimenez look like a GG -- 3 times through first 4 innings of today's game alone, he failed to get his glove on the ball an average 2B probably gets to. That's no different than making 3 errors as far as I am concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 16, 2004 Author Share Posted April 16, 2004 Wow, Todd Walker is making Jimenez look like a GG -- 3 times through first 4 innings of today's game alone, he failed to get his glove on the ball an average 2B probably gets to. That's no different than making 3 errors as far as I am concerned. Oops, make that 4. D'Angelo? batting 360 with 450 OBP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 Amen... only player I ever saw lay down on a play we couldn't have gotten rid of him fast enough for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSF Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 Willie is 2-3 tonight. I'll take the lack of power he has for the hustle and effort he brings instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDylan Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 He started hot for us last season too. Remember how much he dropped off? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Socks Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 The worst second sacker we have had recently is none other than Roberto Alomar. And we gave up Royce Ring for him. Way to go Kenny. How is Robby doing this year? Is he still hustling down the line like he did last year with us? Last year we had a better chance of winning the division with Harris than we did with Robbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 17, 2004 Author Share Posted April 17, 2004 He started hot for us last season too. Remember how much he dropped off? Yeah and then he finished strong with the Reds. Good: September (02), ST, April, May, July, September, ST (04), April. Bad: August Ugly: June That makes it 8-1-1. See a recent trend emerging anywhere? Or better yet....Just watch his at-bats if you want to understand why he has a 460 OBP so far. I was lucky to catch a Cubs game -- the dude is tough as hell to get out and had some nice baserunning to boot. Still below-average defense but not as big a liability as it's made out to be; Todd Walker was much worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 "when Jimenez learns to act as if he cares, I'll learn to act as if I care that he's gone." Great line by winninugly. I agree 100 percent! I don't miss him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 I agree with the majority on this one. The only thing I like about Jiminez is the fact that he's gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 17, 2004 Author Share Posted April 17, 2004 when Jimenez learns to act as if he cares His bat, solid speed and his glove (as of coming to the Reds has fielded better than Robbie in that span) are doing all the "speaking" and all the "caring". Put him against RHP with Uribe against tougher LHP starters and watch Frank and Maggs come up with runners on base for a change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 The only thing I like about Jiminez is the fact that he's gone. I couldn't have said it better myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 I'll definitely take him on my fantasy team, but not on my White Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 Brando sumtimes numbers don't matter. This is the case with Jimenez. The whole culture instantly became betta when Lazy Ass Jimenez left for Cincinatti. We all know he has talent, that's why we traded for him in the 1st place. But when he goes out here lookin like he doesn't giv a s*** when u hav othas bustin their asses tryin to make it to the big leagues, then it's just not worth havin a headcase like him around. Although I would hav like to hav seen what Ozzie would hav done if he was still here for this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 17, 2004 Author Share Posted April 17, 2004 Brando sumtimes numbers don't matter Yeah, or so they tell me. Not sure if I buy it; give me a Jimenez over an Ozzie any damn game day of the week. Jimenez had one horrendeous month (June) and that overshadowed the 4 good months (Sep-May with ST) he had as a Sox. DJ is unfairly associated with the 1st half collapse. Guess what? Konerko wasn't hitting. Thomas was just beginning to heat up. Magglio had an ordinary year by his standards. Koch, White, Wright, Riod, Daubach, Rowand, Crede and even Gordon -- they were all struggling well into June. To put it simply: had Jimenez stayed and Robbie was never traded for, Sox would have been in the playoffs. You like playoffs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 Yeah, or so they tell me. Not sure if I buy it; give me a Jimenez over an Ozzie any damn game day of the week. Jimenez had one horrendeous month (June) and that overshadowed the 4 good months (Sep-May with ST) he had as a Sox. DJ is unfairly associated with the 1st half collapse. Guess what? Konerko wasn't hitting. Thomas was just beginning to heat up. Magglio had an ordinary year by his standards. Koch, White, Wright, Riod, Daubach, Rowand, Crede and even Gordon -- they were all struggling well into June. To put it simply: had Jimenez stayed and Robbie was never traded for, Sox would have been in the playoffs. You like playoffs? Notice though afta we traded D'Angelo suddenly the team got betta. So ur sayin if we kept D'Angelo and not traded for Robbie we would hav made the playoffs. I think not, we would hav prob finished 3rd behind Kansas City. The rest of the team played betta when he left, all of their numbers picked up. Now if he had been there this year with Ozzie then yes, mayb he would hav been kept in line, and he would prob put up sum good numbers. But he had his chance here in Chicago and blew it with his nonchalant attitude. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 17, 2004 Share Posted April 17, 2004 Granted, Jimenez is bad defensively (then agan so is Todd Walker), but his baserunning is not nearly as bad as it's presented -- he can still score from 1st on a double, go from 1st to 3rd on a single to right, tag up from 2nd on a medium-depth flyball to RF, etc, etc. Brando, I even have to disagree with you on that one. I remember quite well in a game against the Twins that we lost early last year that someone got a hit to RF, a little blooper that was obviously going to fall in, and Jimenez only got to 2B(or maybe he was on 2B and only got to 3B...it was one of the two). He is a s***ty baserunner, and that's being kind. I too am glad he is gone. His s*** attitude and his s*** defense was not something I liked to watch. I'm glad he's in Ohio playing for Cincinatti. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 17, 2004 Author Share Posted April 17, 2004 Notice though afta we traded D'Angelo suddenly the team got betta. So ur sayin if we kept D'Angelo and not traded for Robbie we would hav made the playoffs. I think not, we would hav prob finished 3rd behind Kansas City. The rest of the team played betta when he left, all of their numbers picked up. Now if he had been there this year with Ozzie then yes, mayb he would hav been kept in line, and he would prob put up sum good numbers. But he had his chance here in Chicago and blew it with his nonchalant attitude. The way you're making it sound, Jim-Jim is worse than SARS and plague combined. How convenient; then we don't have to face the fact that with Everett and Jimenez the team would have in all likelyhood made the playoffs -- and off to a fantastic start in 2004. Compare Jimenez to Robbie from July-October. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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