nitetrain8601 Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 QUOTE(SnB @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 01:10 PM) i know i don't speak just for myself on this one: you have jumped many posters to be the most annoying person on this board. i'd hate to see what you are like during an 02 type season. Positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 QUOTE(SnB @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 01:10 PM) i know i don't speak just for myself on this one: you have jumped many posters to be the most annoying person on this board. i'd hate to see what you are like during an 02 type season. Put me down on that list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 02:03 PM) Not as ridiculous as Buehrle probably losing Tuesday Night against Santana. i will take Buehrle over Santana any day of the week and twice on sundays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 10:29 PM) i will take Buehrle over Santana any day of the week and twice on sundays. Does it make me a bad fan if I said I'd rather have Santana? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 14, 2005 Share Posted August 14, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 04:29 PM) i will take Buehrle over Santana any day of the week and twice on sundays. I'd take Santana anyday of the week over Buehrle and thrice on Sundays. Our hardest statistical day for a win the past few years have been Sundays. I might take Buehrle on a Wednesday though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 I'd take Mark B over Santana every day of the week times two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 QUOTE(greg775 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 02:33 AM) I'd take Mark B over Santana every day of the week times two. Why? If I had one game to win, and had to choose between either of them, I'd take Santana in a heartbeat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 I don't. I was obviously wrong. We have no one who can shut them down. Our pitching is overrated. Probably because of the poor offenses we faced in our own division. It's obvious our pitching isn't as good as advertised. All I know is that come playoff time, I wouldn't bet on a White Sox advancement. --Why the pessimism? We still have the best record in baseball. We had enough trouble against the poor offenses in our division the past few years when we COULDNT WIN OUR DIVISION. I wouldn't bet much on a White Sox advancement in the playoffs either because anything can happen. I do think we can reach the Series, however. I really do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 06:22 PM) I'd take Santana anyday of the week over Buehrle and thrice on Sundays. Our hardest statistical day for a win the past few years have been Sundays. I might take Buehrle on a Wednesday though. Pitcher A has a 2.96 ERA, Has allowed 10 HR's, 1 Wild Pitches Pitcher B has a 3.48 ERA, Has Allowed 16 HR's, 7 Wild Pitches Can you guess who player A is and Player B is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 02:38 AM) Pitcher A has a 2.96 ERA, Has allowed 10 HR's, 1 Wild Pitches Pitcher B has a 3.48 ERA, Has Allowed 16 HR's, 7 Wild Pitches You might be the first person to ever use wild pitches as a statistic to compare pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 09:40 PM) You might be the first person to ever use wild pitches as a statistic to compare pitchers. Buehrle is the best lefty in baseball and probably the best SP in the AL right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 02:41 AM) Buehrle is the best lefty in baseball and probably the best SP in the AL right now. Exactly, right now. Santana's ERA is on the way down, while Buehrle's ERA is on the way up. Santana's numbers weren't that far off last year from where they are this year. He's been an amazing 2nd half pitcher the last few years. This isn't a shot at Buehrle, but Santana is a beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Sox Josh Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 QUOTE(fathom @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 09:43 PM) Exactly, right now. Santana's ERA is on the way down, while Buehrle's ERA is on the way up. Santana's numbers weren't that far off last year from where they are this year. He's been an amazing 2nd half pitcher the last few years. This isn't a shot at Buehrle, but Santana is a beast. Santana is a hell of a pitcher however he isn't the same pitcher that he was last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 02:44 AM) Santana is a hell of a pitcher however he isn't the same pitcher that he was last year. Tough to maintain for a whole season the dominance he had last season. His peripherals are still dominant, and his ERA should be better than it has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 This is like Cubs fans comparing D. Lee to A. Pujols. Who gives a s***, any team would want either of these players above almost anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 If I had to choose between the two, I'd pick Santana. Big K pitcher. Reason why he has lost some of his dominance is because his defense behind him is pretty damn bad. Especially with Torii out now. If Santana had the White Sox defense behind him, I'd say he'd have a sub 3 ERA. A better one than Buehrle might I add. Of course people won't admit this and will yell at me for stating facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 (edited) QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 12:15 AM) If I had to choose between the two, I'd pick Santana. Big K pitcher. Reason why he has lost some of his dominance is because his defense behind him is pretty damn bad. Especially with Torii out now. If Santana had the White Sox defense behind him, I'd say he'd have a sub 3 ERA. A better one than Buehrle might I add. Of course people won't admit this and will yell at me for stating facts. And if Buehrle didn't pitch in a hitters paradise...you could throw different arguments between the 2 all day. Edited August 15, 2005 by GBlum27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockRaines Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 QUOTE(White Sox Josh @ Aug 14, 2005 -> 09:38 PM) Pitcher A has a 2.96 ERA, Has allowed 10 HR's, 1 Wild Pitches Pitcher B has a 3.48 ERA, Has Allowed 16 HR's, 7 Wild Pitches Can you guess who player A is and Player B is? Does pitcher A have a Cy Young? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevHead0881 Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 04:31 PM) Does pitcher A have a Cy Young? Yah, Pat Hentgen won a Cy Young award once too. Does that mean he's better than Curt Schilling, who has never won a Cy Young? I don't know who the better pitcher is, but I'd find a better measuring stick than the 1 Cy Young award. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 QUOTE(RockRaines @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 11:31 AM) Does pitcher A have a Cy Young? um...wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 11:49 AM) um...wow WHarris1 is back? That might be the most intelligent thing I have seen in this whole thead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 QUOTE(southsider2k5 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 12:10 PM) WHarris1 is back? That might be the most intelligent thing I have seen in this whole thead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 Nitetrain, I thought that you were just a basketball numbskull. I had no idea that you were so versatile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nitetrain8601 Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 QUOTE(hammerhead johnson @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 02:46 PM) Nitetrain, I thought that you were just a basketball numbskull. I had no idea that you were so versatile. Basketball numbskull for saying that Joe Johnson improved on defense and is now a pretty good defender?? Go to any real basketball messageboard and say that and they'll laugh at you then continue to ban you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted August 15, 2005 Share Posted August 15, 2005 QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Aug 15, 2005 -> 09:50 PM) Basketball numbskull for saying that Joe Johnson improved on defense and is now a pretty good defender?? Go to any real basketball messageboard and say that and they'll laugh at you then continue to ban you. Naah, you misunderstood. Let's not forget that you have been s***ting on these here threads for quite a while now. It doesn't all boil down to just one particular conversation. Sometimes it's better to just read and NOT respond. You know what I'm saying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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