C.Rector Posted May 31, 2004 Author Share Posted May 31, 2004 To update this... These are MBs numbers over the past 4 years starting with 2001 ERA: 3.29, 3.58, 4.14, 3.45 K/BB: 2.63, 2.20, 1.95, 3.56 K/9IP: 5.12, 5.05, 4.65, 7.29 BAA: .230, .260, .278, .286 So, Buehrle's batting average against is still going up 4 years in a row. What that means is that his recent decline in ERA and improvement in W-L record is due to the improved defense behind him and not to any improvement in his pitching. If it were not for the pickup of Juan Uribe, the Sox fielding would not be any better than last year and that higher BAA would be even worse, working to Buehrle's detriment. For the time being, Buehrle can have a decent ERA/W-L record, but if his BAA keeps on going up, then by the time his contract expires, he could very well be toast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 So, Buehrle's batting average against is still going up 4 years in a row. What that means is that his recent decline in ERA and improvement in W-L record is due to the improved defense behind him and not to any improvement in his pitching. If it were not for the pickup of Juan Uribe, the Sox fielding would not be any better than last year and that higher BAA would be even worse, working to Buehrle's detriment. For the time being, Buehrle can have a decent ERA/W-L record, but if his BAA keeps on going up, then by the time his contract expires, he could very well be toast. Hey, look who's back! It's Rector! Rector, how's that crow tasting? Oh, and how's the job at the White Sox Times going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Surprised you don't post more Rector. I enjoy reading up your post even if some are controversial. We need that in Soxtalk and I would like to read more of your opinions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 So, Buehrle's batting average against is still going up 4 years in a row. What that means is that his recent decline in ERA and improvement in W-L record is due to the improved defense behind him and not to any improvement in his pitching. If it were not for the pickup of Juan Uribe, the Sox fielding would not be any better than last year and that higher BAA would be even worse, working to Buehrle's detriment. For the time being, Buehrle can have a decent ERA/W-L record, but if his BAA keeps on going up, then by the time his contract expires, he could very well be toast. Hey, dumbass (), it all boils down to one terrible game in Camden Yards. 5.2 IP 10 Hits 4.76 ERA 2.12 WHIP .417 Batting Average Against If you subtract this outing, he has only allowed 70 hits in 65 IP. I don't know about you, but that's not too shabby. Not to mention the fact that he hasn't been walking people (only 16 BB in 70 IP). And he's striking out one batter per inning at Comiskey! He is one solid home outing away from having a sub 4.00 ERA in Comiskey. That says a hell of a lot, as pitchers get lit up like none other at the "ballmall". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Someone needs to lock this thread so it doesn't keep reappearing. The sole premise is total BULLs***! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Someone needs to lock this thread so it doesn't keep reappearing. The sole premise is total BULLs***! Are you thinking your a mod or something? Let them decide what needs to be locked or not, not you.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Hey, dumbass (), it all boils down to one terrible game in Camden Yards. 5.2 IP 10 Hits 4.76 ERA 2.12 WHIP .417 Batting Average Against Actually, it boils down to TWO ugly outings - you forgot the one against the Yankees where: 1) Defense (Mark himself, then Crede and Uribe) eff'ed him in the ass in the 1st 2) Yankees took advantage of bad defense with at least 3 "soft" hits But Corky still has point - the .280+ BA-against is NOT gonna work. That's one area he's gonna have to improve upon because when he's gonna (knock on wood) go against either Red Sox or Yankees in ALDS, having extra baserunners will kill any pitcher because those teams know how to play for a BIG inning.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Actually, it boils down to TWO ugly outings - you forgot the one against the Yankees where: 1) Defense (Mark himself, then Crede and Uribe) eff'ed him in the ass in the 1st 2) Yankees took advantage of bad defense with at least 3 "soft" hits But Corky still has point - the .280+ BA-against is NOT gonna work. That's one area he's gonna have to improve upon because when he's gonna (knock on wood) go against either Red Sox or Yankees in ALDS, having extra baserunners will kill any pitcher because those teams know how to play for a BIG inning.... Yeah, that one as well. 8 hits and 8 earned runs allowed in 2 innings. His home ERA is 4.20, despite that outing. So, subtract those 2 starts, and he's allowed 62 hits in 63 inning pitched with 12 walks. That's a damn good WHIP ratio, and batting average against is most likely in the .250 range. It's June already, and the guy only has 1 loss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Are you thinking your a mod or something? Let them decide what needs to be locked or not, not you.. Reed, if you went back and read most of Rectum's, ummm, wisdom, you'd see why he's considered a Hall of Fame goof. Not only here, but at several other Chicago sports fan sites. He deliberately takes the contrarian opinion just to get noticed. He wants to be Jay Mariotti Jr. some day, so he does things like this on purpose (argue = gets noticed). He's had articles rejected by credible editors and he got launched from his most recent non-paying job at White Sox Times ... now he has the even more lame "blog" called Words of Rector which is essentaily dormant ... much like Rector's intellect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Didn't even now about that. I'll take your word for it Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Reed, if you went back and read most of Rectum's, ummm, wisdom, you'd see why he's considered a Hall of Fame goof. Not only here, but at several other Chicago sports fan sites. He deliberately takes the contrarian opinion just to get noticed. He wants to be Jay Mariotti Jr. some day, so he does things like this on purpose (argue = gets noticed). He's had articles rejected by credible editors and he got launched from his most recent non-paying job at White Sox Times ... now he has the even more lame "blog" called Words of Rector which is essentaily dormant ... much like Rector's intellect. And I notice that you're the one that has to call Rector out 99.9% of the time. You must like following Rector around. Let people decide for themselves. I might agree with you, but it gets old you chasing him around like a baby swinging from a teat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Why does this thread keep getting bumped? To stick it to Rectum? Maybe you should be bumping my DECLINE THIS! thread instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 I might agree with you, but it gets old you chasing him around like a baby swinging from a teat. Is that Texas talk? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 So, Buehrle's batting average against is still going up 4 years in a row. What that means is that his recent decline in ERA and improvement in W-L record is due to the improved defense behind him and not to any improvement in his pitching. If it were not for the pickup of Juan Uribe, the Sox fielding would not be any better than last year and that higher BAA would be even worse, working to Buehrle's detriment. For the time being, Buehrle can have a decent ERA/W-L record, but if his BAA keeps on going up, then by the time his contract expires, he could very well be toast. Actually the baa is much simpler than you make it out to be. It is a function of his run support. MB has had such huge leads that he has been able to attack hitters, instead of being fine, because it doesn't matter if he gives up a run or two. So consequentially he is giving up more hits. The fact that he has had better stuff is indicated by his much higher K/9 and K/BB ratios. That means he is getting hitters out when he needs to by making good pitches. And the the exact opposite of your premise is actually true, because with more Ks and less BBs, Buehrle is actually taking the pressure off of his defense, instead of vice versa. The difference is batting average against isn't up nearly enough (.008) to make up for the near doubling of his K/9 ratio, and his almost doubling K/BB ratio. Mark is allowing WAY less baserunners than the last year, and when they are on base, he is getting the key strike out or double play ball to keep them from scoring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 And I notice that you're the one that has to call Rector out 99.9% of the time. You must like following Rector around. Let people decide for themselves. I might agree with you, but it gets old you chasing him around like a baby swinging from a teat. Well, myself along with Jim aren't very fond of Rector, he's a troll, looking to take the side of anything that will cause an argument. Case-in-point, over at BHZ (Blackhawk fan site), about a year ago, he was pleading for Brian Sutter to be fired. Well, the end of the year came, and most of the people at BHZ we're basically calling for Sutter's head. Well, like clockwork, Rector jumped on and said Sutter should be kept (so he switched his mind after another poor season?). So it seems he only does stuff to piss people off. Not to mention how he was a jerk to Molto. And now, even after Buerhle's dominating performances, he says the reason that Buerhle has been dominating is because and ONLY because of the massive run support he's recieving. He also called Ozzie Guillen a dufus (sp?) or something in an article he wrote (which he was later let go from, the website). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted June 1, 2004 Share Posted June 1, 2004 Rector called Guillen a buffoon and a "cultural illiterate". Kapkomet ... you don't like what I write, don't read it. Simple as that. Go swing from your own tree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 I have a hunch this thread will be needed tonight after the 6 run in 2 innings debacle by Buerhle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsSuck1 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 I say this thread must be bumped after any MB start, good, bad, or indifferent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 I concur. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 I concur. It pretty much has been. It is looking like this will be the motherf***ing dips*** thread of 2004, FWIW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsSuck1 Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 It pretty much has been. It is looking like this will be the motherf***ing dips*** thread of 2004, FWIW. If that one wasn't locked, we'd probably have seen it a lot more this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted June 9, 2004 Share Posted June 9, 2004 bump Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Oh, hello. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Oh, hello. Oh no! Rector has hacked into Brando's SN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 What about my Billy Koch thread? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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