Jordan4life_2007 Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 I didn't get to see the gm tonight. But lookin at the stats, I can see Vasquez bamboozled our offense again. Was he that good tonight? Did we blow opportunities? I hate gettin shut down by the same pitcher twice in what 2 weeks? Seems like we can only get off against below average pitching. Not a good sign at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 I wouldn't look at it as a sign of anything. The guy has ace stuff on a $200 million dollar team. He's good, nothing else to say. Tip your cap and be thankful we won't have to face him throughout the regular season anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Yeah, tip your cap to the best pitcher that you'll have to go up against all year. Sheesh. I'd rather go up against Pedro. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Yankees are simply a superior talent team, no shame in admitting that. Hopefully I am proven wrong and Show wins tomorrow, but I doubt it. Oh and Willie is nothing short of brutal. 8-3 0-3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted April 22, 2004 Author Share Posted April 22, 2004 I realize he's a good pitcher. But we just saw the guy a couple weeks ago. A good team would've made the necessary adjustments and done some damage the second time around. Then again. It's too early to say we have a good team or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 I realize he's a good pitcher. But we just saw the guy a couple weeks ago. A good team would've made the necessary adjustments and done some damage the second time around. Then again. It's too early to say we have a good team or not. Yeah, well, Vazquez adjusted to our adjustments. He's going to make a lot of good offensive teams look like s***. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 I didn't get to see the gm tonight. But lookin at the stats, I can see Vasquez bamboozled our offense again. Was he that good tonight? Did we blow opportunities? I hate gettin shut down by the same pitcher twice in what 2 weeks? Seems like we can only get off against below average pitching. Not a good sign at all. I've been saying this since after the 2000 playoffs. The White Sox need, desperately, a good solid left handed hitting RBI producer. A good right handed pitcher can shut this team down. You know, the kind we'd see in the playoffs if we make it? .... I've seen it time and time again. A good righty, or a mediocre righty on a good night is trouble for us. The Sox have been throwing the team batting average or slugging percentage vs. righties out as "proof" that they hit righties very well. That's been going on for years. Well, there are a lot of bad to mediocre righties out there in Detroit, Texas, Baltimore, etc. Unfortunately, we won't be facing that kind of pitcher in mid-October. Look at what's happened this year. We've lost 6 games. The opening day fiasco in KC, shut down by Vazquez in NY, beaten by Mussina in NY, shut down by that kid in Tampa, then Buehrle's meltdown last night and shut down by Vazquez again. That's four losses directly attributed to losing to right handed pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 I've been saying this since after the 2000 playoffs. The White Sox need, desperately, a good solid left handed hitting RBI producer. A good right handed pitcher can shut this team down. That's why Jeremy Reed could become a very important player in the future, with his LH bat. Brian Giles would hav been nice too, but he's TRYIN to hit homers at PETCO Park without much success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 That's why Jeremy Reed could become a very important player in the future, with his LH bat. Brian Giles would hav been nice too, but he's TRYIN to hit homers at PETCO Park without much success. If Reed's power develops, yes. He could still be valuable as an OBP type of guy, but that's not what I'm talking about. Giles, in the middle of our lineup, would be awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Vaquez was awesome last night. I hope we have the chance to get to see him again, 'cause we all know what that would mean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Maggs came up once with the bases loaded and once with 1st and 3rd, 2 outs, and did NOT come through. He wants $14 mil/year, he needs to come through in at least one of those ABs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nokona Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 That's why this game is so hard. You only get a hit 3 out of every 10 ABs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Vaquez was awesome last night. I hope we have the chance to get to see him again, 'cause we all know what that would mean! What, tonight's game goes about 18 0r 19 innings?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 What, tonight's game goes about 18 0r 19 innings?? Smart ass! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkokieSox Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Maggs came up once with the bases loaded and once with 1st and 3rd, 2 outs, and did NOT come through. He wants $14 mil/year, he needs to come through in at least one of those ABs. That's a little unfair, but he did swing at some pretty poor pitches. He probably could have walked all night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 That's a little unfair, but he did swing at some pretty poor pitches. He probably could have walked all night. I don't know if he could have done that either. That was one BIG strike zone last night. I think Maggs would have gotten rung up looking, before he would have walked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soxbadger Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 Lets all jump off a bridge. Arguably the best pitcher on the Yankees staff shut us down, and the world is crumbling. Vazquez throws in the high 90's with a damn fine curve, Id say hes the best pitcher that Ive seen this year. The Sox kept it close, they were in the game the entire time, and it could of gone either way. I wish the Sox went 162-0, but they are gonna undoubtedly lose 60, and the losses that come to the Yankees and Vaz barely sting. SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 22, 2004 Share Posted April 22, 2004 I've been saying this since after the 2000 playoffs. The White Sox need, desperately, a good solid left handed hitting RBI producer. A good right handed pitcher can shut this team down. You know, the kind we'd see in the playoffs if we make it? .... I've seen it time and time again. A good righty, or a mediocre righty on a good night is trouble for us. The Sox have been throwing the team batting average or slugging percentage vs. righties out as "proof" that they hit righties very well. That's been going on for years. Well, there are a lot of bad to mediocre righties out there in Detroit, Texas, Baltimore, etc. Unfortunately, we won't be facing that kind of pitcher in mid-October. Look at what's happened this year. We've lost 6 games. The opening day fiasco in KC, shut down by Vazquez in NY, beaten by Mussina in NY, shut down by that kid in Tampa, then Buehrle's meltdown last night and shut down by Vazquez again. That's four losses directly attributed to losing to right handed pitchers. A-f***ING-MEN. I'm not sure Brian Giles will accept a trade to Chicago(otherwise he'd probably already be here...remember 2001?). But I'll take Carlos Delgado at the deadline when Toronto is out of it. They take on Konerko and Koch, and about $2 mill of his $18 mill contract(which would actually be roughly $1 mill at the deadline). We barely take on any of his contract, so we still have room to get a great pitcher too. I'd also take Raffy Palmeiro, and it probably wouldn't cost Konerko and Koch either(though Baltimore can have Koch if they want, especially if we could get Julio from them). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UofIChiSox Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 That's why this game is so hard. You only get a hit 3 out of every 10 ABs. Exactly what I wish more people realized. It's tough to come through in situations like that. Maggs is a guy who does it a lot, but you certainly can't rip on him for failing twice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Sean Casey would be a nice lefty bat. Ken Griffey would be nice as well, but Griffey is too injury-y and to money-y (Boers and Bernstein-isms, lol). If Konerko continues hitting like he has been, I see no need to trade Konerko. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Sean Casey would be a nice lefty bat. Ken Griffey would be nice as well, but Griffey is too injury-y and to money-y (Boers and Bernstein-isms, lol). If Konerko continues hitting like he has been, I see no need to trade Konerko. The Reds can keep Sean Casey. We have a player like Sean Casey in the minors, only probably better, in Jeremy Reed. By lefty bat in the middle of the lineup, I mean we need a serious f***ing threat in the middle of the lineup. Not a 20-25 homer guy. I'm talking big power, around 35-40 homers a year(I'll take 30-35 too) with a .900-.950 OPS at the very least, and, if there is one available, one that can put up a 1.000+ OPS. We could use one very badly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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