Loaiza21 Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 He's been unbelieveable Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Quality start, technically speaking, is not particularly quality -- 6inn/3 ER is 4.50 ERA, which is league average. It's only quality when it's either 4th or especially 5th starter who does it.....but when we're talking 2-3, I prefer 7 inn/3 er and ace - 7 inn/2 er Show wasn't great -- hardly threw a change up, which he is going to have to do sooner or later lest ML hitters get comfortable with slider-fastball combo, and walked Tony friggin Clark 3 times -- but overall was very, very solid. I was gonna start a second "kudos" thread but this one'll do. I hope Neal took notes - his time has come. I hope Ozzie realizes that. Oh and.....Please don't compare Show to Loaiza -- E-Lo has a better control, better four-seamer, better cutter and a change-up that hitters don't crush 420 feet. Show has a nice sinker and a serviceable slider, but unless he discovers his inner Buerhle, he is just a good #4, nothing more. If Scott's year-end ERA is 4.20, I'll be ecstatic. The abslutely worst thing would be if Sox management goes the cheap route, thinking this rotation is good enough for the pennant race/playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 I know I had a long post in defense of him, just after his last ST appearence-- Took a little time to find it, but I was cautiously optomistic. link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 I think I read somewhere Scot has given up 1HR in his past 26+ innings of work. Of all the plusses we already mentioned another big thing is that he is left-handed. And we all know that the Twins have a big weakness against lefties. Here's to Scot having a real coming-out this year and turning some heads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 I agree Scho has pitched very well, far above my expectations. Hats off to Kenny for having faith in him. Colon, by the way, is now 3-1. I wish we had him, with Scho as our #5. That would put Danny in the pen, where he belongs, and we would have run away with the division. Darn, the Colon non-signing still freaking hurts. Especially given our shaky BP, something he would have helped keep fresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 I like that he is getting groundballs, but in ST he was K'ing people like crazy. That change-up is such a key because when it works, it adds another dimension, allowing him to set hitters up much better. Then again, when the change doesn't work, it gets hit a LONG way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Darn, the Colon non-signing still freaking hurts Last year he was pitching in a division that had some of the more pathetic-hitting teams of the last decade (Tigers and Tribe as well as the mediocre Twins) and he still barely cleared the 4.00 ERA mark. I know he is off to a good start, but a 4.00 ERA pitcher ain't worth nearly 13 Mill per when your payroll is 60+ I'd rather have Show and wait until the All-Star Break to acquire a REAL ace pitcher, not an apathetic donut-chaser Bartolo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 I too was on the Scho to the Pen Bandwagon. So far he has done a great job of proving me wrong, but I am not completely sold yet either. I just hope he keeps proving me wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 I like that he is getting groundballs, but in ST he was K'ing people like crazy. That change-up is such a key because when it works, it adds another dimension, allowing him to set hitters up much better. Then again, when the change doesn't work, it gets hit a LONG way. Shows u how important how defense is goin to be wheneva Shoe takes the mound. I feel very comfortable with Willie Harris and Juan Uribe in our infield. Shoe always had a changeup, it just wasn't very good, but in ST he found a new changeup grip and it's been workin really well for him as the results show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 Hope it tastes like chicken.. :puke Which begs the question: What does chicken taste like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 He threw one at one point. Hawk commented on it. He threw a change on I think Sheffield and got sheffield way out in front of it. By the way, thanks wite...and you defended me Still, I'm not going to say I was right, at least not yet. Scho has pitched good, but 3 starts don't make a season or a career. He has good stuff though and the fact that he's pitching inside a lot is huge. He also is doing a really good job of throwing his slider in-in on righties and its really tying them up. He's still having some control issues, but he's mixing speeds pretty well, although I'd still like to see more sliders. I think the pitch your referring to cheat (the 85-88) was at times his slider and at other times his cutter. He used both quite consistently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted April 23, 2004 Share Posted April 23, 2004 I am not a Schoenweiss supporter ever since we penciled him to be the 4th starter. I am just happy for the 2 wins he has given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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