Reply 2 Why can't we keep Mags, pay roll

[popeye089]

Sorry I couldn't reply faster to my post but The ghost of Wayne Tolleson replied this and now I will answer back

I still go to school

but

 

by The ghost of Wayne Tolleson

The Cubs and Sox rarley compete anymore"

--INACCURATE. THE SOX ALMOST MADE THE PLAYOFFS LAST YEAR, WON THE CENTRAL IN 2000, WOULD HAVE WON IN 1994, WON THE CENTRAL IN 93, AND FINISHED SECOND ALMOST EVERY YEAR TO THE A'S JUGGERNAUT IN THE LATE 80'S, EARLY 90'S. THE CUBS WERE A PLAYOFF TEAM LAST YEAR, ALMOST WENT IN 2001 OR 02, WERE THE WILD CARD IN 1998, WENT TO THE PLAYOFFS IN 1989, AND 1984. DYNASTIES THEY'RE NOT, BUT TO SAY THEY HARDLY COMPETE? RIDICULOUS.

 

My reply YES I SAID ANY MORE YES they did great in the eighties but you only mentioned three competitive seasons in the past FOURTEEN yeas some years were due to injuries BUT YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED THE QUESTION "We, meaning Chicago, is third largest metropolitan sports venue in the country. Why can't we keep our players? If the amount is reasonable? Mags puts MAnny Ramirez numbers CONSISTENLY. Why can't we the 3rd Largest venue afford him.

 

At least the Cubs try and have an $80 mil payroll.

--SURE, IN THE LAST TWO YEARS THEY HAVE. BUT HOW MANY YEARS PRIOR TO THAT WAS WRIGLEY FILLED TO THE BRIM WITH LEMMINGS PAYING $5 A BEER TO WATCH A LOWER-MIDDLE OF THE PACK PAYROLL?

 

MY REPLY I don't care how many years it's been. They turned it around. Jerry is not going to get more people to go by letting our star prospects go and raising ticket prices

 

David Wells, Carl Everett, Alomar, Foulke, etc.

--WITH THE EXCEPTION OF FOULKE, (AND EVERETT, WHO FOR THE 900TH f***ING TIME COULD NOT HAVE BEEN RESIGNED REALISTICALLY BECAUSE OF ARBITRATION) THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO RESIGN THE PLAYERS YOU HAVE MENTIONED. DAVID WELLS ONLY SHOWS UP TO PLAY WHEN HE IS ON THE YANKEES, AND ALOMAR IS TEN TIMES WORSE RIGHT NOW THAN EITHER HARRIS OR URIBE(OR D'ANGELO JIMENEZ). CAN'T ARGUE THAT MORE MOVES SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE TO MAKE GOOD TEAMS BETTER, BUT THROWING MONEY AWAY JUST TO PUT UP THE FACADE OF "WE'RE TRYING" IS JUST STUPID.

 

MY REPLY, SCREW ARBITRATION WE ARE THE 3rd LARGEST MARKET WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO AFFORD ANYONE WE WANT yes uribe is doing better now and I believe he will do better in the long run than Jose would do because he is better defensevily and his stats are comparable. I know Jose is clutch but we have enough veterans now where that experience should rub off Plus Uribe is no rookie and has experience Once again WE ARE #3 we don't have to throw money away, just throw it at good pitching WE have a few, you know there names, but a few won't cut it. We have the bats but we need morePitching

 

People originally went to Wrigley because of the scenery and now theyexpect to see good baseball because of additions made

--INCORRECT. FANS WENT TO WRIGLEY BECAUSE THE CUBS WERE BROADCAST ON THE NATION'S MOST POWERFUL RADIO STATION, WHICH OWNED ONE OF THE NATION'S LARGEST NEWSPAPERS, AND THE NATION'S FIRST TRULY NATIONWIDE TELEVISION STATION(AND I WILL CEASE USING THE WORD 'NATION' NOW). THIS EXPOSURE CREATED LEGIONS OF FANS THAT NOW TEAM IN BASEBALL, SANS MAYBE THE YANKEES OR DODGERS CAN MATCH. AS THE CUBS PLODDED THROUGH THE GARBAGE YEARS DURING MOST OF THE 80'S AND 90'S, WRIGLEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ANYWHERE NEAR AS FILLED IF IT WEREN'T STATIONED SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF AN UPPER-CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A HUGE POPULATION DENSITY COMPRISED OF UPPER 20, LOWER 30-SOMETHINGS WITH NO SPOUSE/KIDS AND LOTS OF DISPOSABLE INCOME.

 

MY REPLY Legions of fans were crerated by Sammy Sosa in his home run chase I don't care where there games were broadcasted no one like a loser unless some was there to grasp and they grasped Sosa, the ivey, the lovelable loser image, the curse, and most of all THE CLASSIC WRIGLEY FIELD. WHY DO YOU THINK EVERYTHING IS GOING GREEN AND NOT BLUE ANYMORE AT COMISKEY

 

Steinbrener turned his wallet upside in mid 90's and now the Yanks are "America's Team"

--STEINBRENNER DIDN'T EXACTLY "TURN HIS WALLET UPSIDE-DOWN." HE SIGNED THAT HUGE DEAL WITH THE CABLE COMPANY, AND THAT GAVE HIM A HUGE NEW REVENUE STREAM TO WORK WITH. EVERYONE BUT YANKEE FANS HATES THE YANKEES, CALLING THEM "AMERICA'S TEAM" IS A STRETCH AT BEST, LUDICROUS AT WORST.

 

All TEAMS RECEIVED $50 million AT THE START OF THE YEAR:lol:

[Wong & Owens]

Sorry I couldn't reply faster to my post but The ghost of Wayne Tolleson replied this and now I will answer back

I still go to school

but

 

by The ghost of Wayne Tolleson

The Cubs and Sox rarley compete anymore"

--INACCURATE. THE SOX ALMOST MADE THE PLAYOFFS LAST YEAR, WON THE CENTRAL IN 2000, WOULD HAVE WON IN 1994, WON THE CENTRAL IN 93, AND FINISHED SECOND ALMOST EVERY YEAR TO THE A'S JUGGERNAUT IN THE LATE 80'S, EARLY 90'S. THE CUBS WERE A PLAYOFF TEAM LAST YEAR, ALMOST WENT IN 2001 OR 02, WERE THE WILD CARD IN 1998, WENT TO THE PLAYOFFS IN 1989, AND 1984. DYNASTIES THEY'RE NOT, BUT TO SAY THEY HARDLY COMPETE? RIDICULOUS.

 

My reply YES I SAID ANY MORE YES they did great in the eighties but you only mentioned three competitive seasons in the past FOURTEEN yeas some years were due to injuries BUT YOU STILL HAVEN'T ANSWERED THE QUESTION "We, meaning Chicago, is third largest metropolitan sports venue in the country.  Why can't we keep  our players?  If the amount is reasonable?  Mags puts MAnny Ramirez numbers CONSISTENLY.  Why can't we the 3rd Largest venue afford him.

 

At least the Cubs try and have an $80 mil payroll.

--SURE, IN THE LAST TWO YEARS THEY HAVE. BUT HOW MANY YEARS PRIOR TO THAT WAS WRIGLEY FILLED TO THE BRIM WITH LEMMINGS PAYING $5 A BEER TO WATCH A LOWER-MIDDLE OF THE PACK PAYROLL?

 

MY REPLY I don't care how many years it's been.  They turned it around.  Jerry is not going to get more people to go by letting our star prospects go and raising ticket prices

 

David Wells, Carl Everett, Alomar, Foulke, etc.

--WITH THE EXCEPTION OF FOULKE, (AND EVERETT, WHO FOR THE 900TH f***ING TIME COULD NOT HAVE BEEN RESIGNED REALISTICALLY BECAUSE OF ARBITRATION) THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO RESIGN THE PLAYERS YOU HAVE MENTIONED. DAVID WELLS ONLY SHOWS UP TO PLAY WHEN HE IS ON THE YANKEES, AND ALOMAR IS TEN TIMES WORSE RIGHT NOW THAN EITHER HARRIS OR URIBE(OR D'ANGELO JIMENEZ). CAN'T ARGUE THAT MORE MOVES SHOULD HAVE BEEN MADE TO MAKE GOOD TEAMS BETTER, BUT THROWING MONEY AWAY JUST TO PUT UP THE FACADE OF "WE'RE TRYING" IS JUST STUPID.

 

MY REPLY, SCREW ARBITRATION WE ARE THE 3rd LARGEST MARKET WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO AFFORD ANYONE WE WANT yes uribe is doing better now and I believe he will do better in the long run than Jose would do because he is better defensevily and his stats are comparable.  I know Jose is clutch but we have enough veterans now where that experience should rub off Plus Uribe is no rookie and has experience  Once again WE ARE #3 we don't have to throw money away, just throw it at good pitching  WE have a few, you know there names, but a few won't cut it.  We have the bats but we need morePitching 

 

People originally went to Wrigley because of the scenery and now theyexpect to see good baseball because of additions made

--INCORRECT. FANS WENT TO WRIGLEY BECAUSE THE CUBS WERE BROADCAST ON THE NATION'S MOST POWERFUL RADIO STATION, WHICH OWNED ONE OF THE NATION'S LARGEST NEWSPAPERS, AND THE NATION'S FIRST TRULY NATIONWIDE TELEVISION STATION(AND I WILL CEASE USING THE WORD 'NATION' NOW). THIS EXPOSURE CREATED LEGIONS OF FANS THAT NOW TEAM IN BASEBALL, SANS MAYBE THE YANKEES OR DODGERS CAN MATCH. AS THE CUBS PLODDED THROUGH THE GARBAGE YEARS DURING MOST OF THE 80'S AND 90'S, WRIGLEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN ANYWHERE NEAR AS FILLED IF IT WEREN'T STATIONED SMACK IN THE MIDDLE OF AN UPPER-CLASS NEIGHBORHOOD WITH A HUGE POPULATION DENSITY COMPRISED OF UPPER 20, LOWER 30-SOMETHINGS WITH NO SPOUSE/KIDS AND LOTS OF DISPOSABLE INCOME.

 

MY REPLY Legions of fans were crerated by Sammy Sosa in his home run chase I don't care where there games were broadcasted no one like a loser unless some was there to grasp and they grasped Sosa, the ivey, the lovelable loser image, the curse, and most of all THE CLASSIC WRIGLEY FIELD.  WHY DO YOU THINK EVERYTHING IS GOING GREEN AND NOT BLUE ANYMORE AT COMISKEY

 

Steinbrener turned his wallet upside in mid 90's and now the Yanks are "America's Team"

--STEINBRENNER DIDN'T EXACTLY "TURN HIS WALLET UPSIDE-DOWN." HE SIGNED THAT HUGE DEAL WITH THE CABLE COMPANY, AND THAT GAVE HIM A HUGE NEW REVENUE STREAM TO WORK WITH. EVERYONE BUT YANKEE FANS HATES THE YANKEES, CALLING THEM "AMERICA'S TEAM" IS A STRETCH AT BEST, LUDICROUS AT WORST.

 

All TEAMS RECEIVED $50 million AT THE START OF THE YEAR:lol:

My reply YES I SAID ANY MORE YES they did great in the eighties but you only mentioned three competitive seasons in the past FOURTEEN yeas

 

--NO, I DIDN'T. THE SOX FINISHED IN 1ST OR 2ND IN THEIR DIVISION 11 TIMES SINCE 1990. IF YOU DON'T CONSIDER THAT COMPETITIVE, THEN YOU SHOULD RE-EXAMINE WHAT THE WORD MEANS.

 

 

"We, meaning Chicago, is third largest metropolitan sports venue in the country. Why can't we keep our players?

 

--SIMPLE, BECAUSE THE STADIUM IS FILLED TO THE TUNE OF BEING THE 25TH LARGEST MARKET. AND SPECTATING AT SPORTING EVENTS IS NOT ABOUT SPORTS ALONE ANYMORE. THE SOX HAVE FEW NEIGHBORHOOD DRAWS, AND A LESS-THAN-POPULAR IMAGE.

 

"Mags puts MAnny Ramirez numbers CONSISTENLY."

 

--MAGS CAREER AVGS: 29 HR'S, 109 RBI'S .307 AVG, .365 OBP, .528 SLG

MANNY AVG'S: 36 HR'S, 119 RBI'S .318 AVG, .413 OBP, .598 SLG

 

FIRST OFF, MANNY MAKES $20 MILLION, AND NOBODY IS WORTH THAT KIND OF DOUGH. NOT AROD, NOT BONDS, AND CERTAINLY NOT MAGGLIO ORDONEZ. SECONDLY, MAGS DOESN'T EVEN PUT UP MANNY NUMBERS, SO ARGUING THAT HE SHOULD BE PAID AS SUCH IS FOOLISH.

 

"MY REPLY, SCREW ARBITRATION WE ARE THE 3rd LARGEST MARKET WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO AFFORD ANYONE WE WANT "

 

--THIS IS A BRILLIANT STATEMENT, SUBMIT YOUR NAME AT ONCE FOR CONSIDERATION AS THE NEXT COMMISSIONER OF BASEBALL.

 

"We have the bats but we need morePitching [/b]"

 

--NO ARGUMENTS HERE. AND IF THE SOX ARE IN CONTENTION, KW WILL GO GET SOME HELP.

 

"Legions of fans were crerated by Sammy Sosa in his home run chase"

--WRIGLEY FIELD WAS BEING SOLD OUT YEARS BEFORE SOSANUTS EVER JUMPED ABOARD THE 60-HR JUICEWAGON. ONE PLAYER IN ONE SEASON DOES NOT FILL A STADIUM FOR YEARS THEREAFTER. YOUR LOGIC IS BASELESS.

 

"no one like a loser unless some was there to grasp and they grasped Sosa, the ivey, the lovelable loser image, the curse, and most of all THE CLASSIC WRIGLEY FIELD."

--I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THIS COMMENT MEANS. COULD YOU CLARIFY THIS, POR FAVOR?

 

"All TEAMS RECEIVED $50 million AT THE START OF THE YEAR

 

--YES. SO WHAT'S YOUR POINT?

[BrandoFan]

[Wong & Owens]

I was expecting something more entertaining than that, Russkie!

 

Throw your two cents in, you know you wanna..........

[BrandoFan]

I was expecting something more entertaining than that, Russkie!

 

Throw your two cents in, you know you wanna..........

Damn right I wanna, my rhetorical nuts are a-scratchin'........But Mommy hasn't medicated me yet, so I am not allowed.