dasox24 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 There are still some pretty good players available tomorrow. Personally, as a Bears fan, I'd like to see us get any two of Will Poole, Nat Dorsey, Ben Utecht, or Greg Brooks if they fall to our picks. In the 5th round, I'd like to see us get Jason Peters (huge TE, over 300 lbs.), Tony Pape (if we don't get Dorsey in 4th), Mewelde Moore, or even maybe a 3rd QB like John Navarre or Jeff Smoker, but I would rather wait until 7th round to get a QB like Ryan Dinwiddie, Jared Lorenzen, or Rod Rutherford (this guy absolutely ran over Jonathan Vilma last year when Pitt played Miami; and, I know this means nothing to how he is as a QB, but I just wanted to point out that the guy who everyone considered the best LB in the draft was run over, i mean, absolutely flattened out by a quarterback.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WHarris1 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Guys I look for: Will Poole Nathan Vasher (My favorite) Jose Harris Issac Hilton Isaac Sopoaga Shaun Phillips Nat Dorsey And yes, Jarret Payton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighHeat45 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 i want the bears to go for jarrod payton just because of his dad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy2121 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 one guy i want to get even though he wouldnt play: JOSH HARRIS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 one guy i want to get even though he wouldnt play: JOSH HARRIS So the point of getting him would be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy2121 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 worst case scenarios: grossman getting hurt, grossman suxking this guys the next McNabb but with a better arm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 this guys the next McNabb but with a better arm So he innaccurately throws it hard? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 i really hope Poole is available 9 picks in tomorrow because i am thoroghly pissed off at the Chiefs draft so far. They took some DT from Oregon who i think was just a horrible pick, yet still is nowhere near as stupid as taking a TIGHT END with their 2nd second round pick. HELLO!?!?!? The problem was with DEFENSE! Plus, we have Tony Gonzalez so what the hell? They had two chances at Dockett and blew it. Then, late in the third Poole was available and they take a linebacker. Ridiculous. KC's biggest weakness was and is at cornerback. And they've addressed it by signing ZERO free agents and drafting ZERO corners in 3 picks. I am not happy with this draft one bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chimpy2121 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 he's a little inaccurate right now, thats why he wasnt a first day pick...i dont see what the big deal is with picking him up in like the 5th. we need a 3rd stringer anyways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 this guys the next McNabb but with a better arm Is he the next McNabb just like Ell Roberson is the next Michael Vick(only right-handed this time)? Harris is a 4th round pick or beyond for a reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 I would love Harris...also I wouldnt mind Fred Russell, I doubt he went today (not sure about the third round). Smoker would be a fun pick, although he could turn out like Brady a few years back. We will invite Jarrett Payton as a rookie free-agent to training camp IMHO. I want to see a LB and a TE drafted mostly. I am going to go nuts if we get anymore linemen...Haynes last year, now Harris (which I am very happy with) and Tank. Has Haynes done anything? A few Spartans I think should go: Jeff Smoker, QB; Mike Labinjo, LB; Joe Tate, OT; Matthias Askew, DT; Greg Taplin, DE. Askew declared a year early, made a number of plays last year. Labinjo was the heart and soul of State football last season, just came up with huge play after huge play. Joe Tate is a great kid. He is great in the classroom and community, has recieved all sorts of academic awards, and is a mighty tough tackle. I would love to see him get drafted. Everyone knows about Smoker. Askew should be our highest draft pick. More About These Five Guys Labinjo Impresses Scouts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Will Poole and Michael the Burner Turner in the 4th...then an OLB in the 5th and Josh Harris sometime late (Although I doubt it happens), maybe Lorenzen if he is still their in the 7th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 And yes, Jarret Payton For Jarret's sake I hope we DONT draft him. Now, I think he has some potential and I would LOVE to see him get a chance here in Chicago. But, you know the press here. They would have a FIELD DAY with the son of Walter coming to play for the Bears. It would be a Jarret lovefest and they would NEVER leave him alone. Now, if the press WOULD leave him alone and he could develope for a year or 2, then I think he could have some potential. But, he is better off going to someplace that could care less if he was the son of Walter and they already have an established back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 (1) Nat Dorsey - 4th Round - Could be a LT (2) Isaac Hilton - 4th Round - Pass rushing specialist I think we can get by in the secondary and if we can improve our line our secondary will improve from the added pressure. Azumah, McQuarters, and Tillman are a pretty good group of CBs, plus I don't think much of Poole. (3) LB possibly if there is one? (4) 7th round - Lorenzen? Smoker? Rutherford? back up QB, we need one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxfan99 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 worst case scenarios: grossman getting hurt, grossman suxking this guys the next McNabb but with a better arm Harris is not even close to the athlete McNabb is though. Harris ran in the 4.8-4.9 range in the 40 when McNabb was around a 4.55. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Was it just me, or did the Bears magically lose a pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Was it just me, or did the Bears magically lose a pick? They traded it to SF to get another 5th rounder. Good deal if you ask me. Nathan Vasher - CB 4th round pick SELECTED BY CHICAGO , ROUND 4, PICK 14, OVERALL PICK 110 CB | (5'10", 177, 4.48) | TEXAS | COLLEGE STATS Lack of size and speed are concerns, but Vasher is an aggressive playmaker with terrific ball skills. Vasher is a step below the elite prospects in this class. However, he is aggressive and tough, and could develop into a solid No. 2 cornerback despite his size limitations. He should be ready to contribute right away as a nickel cover corner. Because of his value as a punt returner, Vasher is worth drafting starting late in the second round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be Good Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Guys I look for: Will Poole Nathan Vasher (My favorite) Jose Harris Issac Hilton Isaac Sopoaga Shaun Phillips Nat Dorsey And yes, Jarret Payton Yes the Dolphins got Poole..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 The Bears, with the 110th pick, take Nathan Vasher, CB, from Texas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Pick number 112 of the Bears is Leon Joe(sp?), LB, Maryland. Can someone get a scouting report on him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Be Good Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 http://www.nfl.com/draft/profiles/leon_joe : Leon Joe Position: Outside/Inside Linebacker College: Maryland Height: 5-11 Weight: 232 Hometown: Fort Washington, Md. Analysis | Agility | High School | Personal OVERVIEW An athletic linebacker who was one of the most underrated players in the country the last few years … An outstanding sideline-to-sideline player from his "Will" (weakside) linebacker position, he was also Iron Terp (honor bestowed on top performers in the team's offseason conditioning program), who is the strongest linebacker on the team and posted the highest strength index ever by a Terp linebacker (785) in 2002 … He also owns the Terp record for bench press (475 pounds) and vertical jump (41 inches) by a linebacker … In 48 games, he recorded 322 tackles (200 solos) with three sacks for minus-23 yards, 22½ stops for losses of 61 yards, 25 quarterback pressures, a fumble recovery, a forced fumble, two interceptions and five pass deflections while starting his final 37 contests. ANALYSIS Positives: Has a compact, yet muscular frame with above-average quickness, body control and change-of-direction agility … Makes up for a lack of instant ball recognition skills with his physical ability … Shows the speed needed to reach the outside to take down ball carriers … Has a sudden burst and takes proper angles when closing … Has the lateral agility and leg drive to work around the piles … Has the speed to cover tight ends and ball carriers beyond the short area … Has adequate hip flexibility in his pass drops, showing the foot speed and agility to come out of his backpedal without gathering himself … Will look up crossers (receivers on crossing patterns) and shows quickness to react to the switch-off in the zone … Effective blitzer with the speed off the corner to outmaneuver blocker. Negatives: Lacks ideal height … Late to react when asked to break down plays … Despite his awesome weight room power, it does not translate to the field (struggles to take on and shed blockers) … Shows marginal hand usage to maintain position on receivers in the short zone … Does a poor job of anticipating the receiver's routes, but compensates with quickness to recover … Can get past blockers, but lacks pass-rush moves in attempts to get to the quarterback (poor hand usage shows in his marginal ability to deliver good swim moves) … Tries to overpower blockers too much and rather than shed, he tries to use his forearm flipper to split double teams, resulting in rush lanes opening for the runner … Because of his lack of bulk, he gets washed out quite a bit vs. the larger blockers … Could possibly move to strong safety due to his quickness, but his inability to recognize routes could pose a big problem there. AGILITY TESTS 4.43 in the 40-yard dash (indoor track) … 4.6 in the 40-yard dash (outdoors) … 475-pound bench press … 615-pound squat … 363-pound power clean … 41-inch vertical jump. HIGH SCHOOL Attended Friendly (Fort Washington, Md.) High, playing both outside and inside linebacker as a senior, recording 165 total tackles (88 solos) and 10 sacks … As a fullback, he averaged 10 yards per carry in limited attempts … Scored four touchdowns, including a 95-yarder in the state semifinals … Helped spearhead Friendly to the county's first Maryland state title in 10 years … FHS went 13-0, won the 3A state championship and finished the season with a final ranking of No. 3 by the Washington Post … All-Region selection by Super Prep and Prep Star … Rated the No. 3 linebacker in the state by recruiting analyst Tom Lemming entering his senior year … First-team all-county selection as a junior when he played strictly outside linebacker. Friendly went 10-2 and advanced to the state semi-finals … Also an outstanding sprinter on the track team. PERSONAL Criminal Justice major … Son of Leslie Bishop-Joe and Clarence Joe … Born Leon Maurice Joe on Oct. 26, 1981 … Resides in Fort Washington, Md. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Guys I look for: Will Poole Nathan Vasher (My favorite) Jose Harris Issac Hilton Isaac Sopoaga Shaun Phillips Nat Dorsey And yes, Jarret Payton You got one in Nathan Vasher. Do you know a lot about him??? Do tell.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 You got one in Nathan Vasher. Do you know a lot about him??? Do tell.... Vasher seems like one of those guys who had a bad workout so his stock dropped. He was supposed to be a late second, early third round pick. He plays a solid corner, and could turn into the Bears number 2 cornerback. Solid pick, Mr Angelo! These later rounds are where the scouts earn their money. And as I type this, the Vikings take Nat Dorsey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 I'm definitely thinking LT in the 5th since we have 2 back2back picks. Nat Dorsey and Kelly Butler are still there. Butler is huge. 6'8, 330 pounds! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted April 25, 2004 Share Posted April 25, 2004 Scratch Dorsey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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