DonkeyKongerko Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 There are still a few people around who have the impression the White Sox have a terrible defense. This is really a misperception I think based on the fact our pitchers seem to get into jams alot and magnify any defensive miscues. Here are the current DER stats (basically % of balls in play fielded by defense) for 2004. http://baseballprospectus.com/statistics/def_eff2004.html This chart tells me our guys are making more than the average share of plays. Also it shows me that our pitchers are giving up more than their share of homeruns and not striking anybody out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 thanks for the link dk and for the observations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Uribe and Harris hav improved our defense with their energy and hustle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 There are still a few people around who have the impression the White Sox have a terrible defense. This is really a misperception I think based on the fact our pitchers seem to get into jams alot and magnify any defensive miscues. Here are the current DER stats (basically % of balls in play fielded by defense) for 2004. http://baseballprospectus.com/statistics/def_eff2004.html This chart tells me our guys are making more than the average share of plays. Also it shows me that our pitchers are giving up more than their share of homeruns and not striking anybody out. No kidding. We have 4 infielders with exceptional range: 2004 ZR (Zone Rating): Valentin: 919 (leads all ML SS despite 4 errors, so it should improve) Uribe: 900 (4th) Crede: 833 (6th among all 3B....good) Harris: 856 (7th among all 2B....will shoot up toward top 3 by year's end) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 No kidding. We have 4 infielders with exceptional range: 2004 ZR (Zone Rating): Valentin: 919 (leads all ML SS despite 4 errors, so it should improve) Uribe: 900 (4th) Crede: 833 (6th among all 3B....good) Harris: 856 (7th among all 2B....will shoot up toward top 3 by year's end) Where's Paulie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 I'm sure Crede will shoot up some as well by the time the season gets further on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Where's Paulie After finishing dead last in 2003, he has improved this year.....to the tune of 20th out 25 MLB first basemen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 After finishing dead last in 2003, he has improved this year.....to the tune of 20th out 25 MLB first basemen. PK marching to the top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 I'm sure Crede will shoot up some as well by the time the season gets further on. Crede should work on quicker release -- takes too long to load up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 PK marching to the top Soon enough he'll lead the league in steals too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Soon enough he'll lead the league in steals too Only because Matt LeCroy is on the DL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Soon enough he'll lead the league in steals too You think that's funny and yet PK would beat Aparicio in a race around the bases anyday! especially since Louie is 70 now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Only because Matt LeCroy is on the DL. I dunno, Edgar is tough to beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 You think that's funny and yet PK would beat Aparicio in a race around the bases anyday! especially since Louie is 70 now... I love Cobb's quote, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 The perception of the Sox being a bad defensive team should have died in 2003. Still, some people hold on to misconceptions in spite of numbers that prove otherwise. For example, Jose Valentin being a lousy shortstop is a misconception that has a life of it's own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 The perception of the Sox being a bad defensive team should have died in 2003. Still, some people hold on to misconceptions in spite of numbers that prove otherwise. For example, Jose Valentin being a lousy shortstop is a misconception that has a life of it's own. I wouldn't call the Sox a great fielding team either. We ain't the Mariners of 2001 or Twins of 2002. Sox used to have an abomination of an infield: Baldwin-Fordyce-Thomas-Durham-Caruso-Norton back in 1999. :puke Now, they're no longer terrible - just average-to-above-average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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