quade36 Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 .304 BA 4 HR 20 BB only 8 K's and an amazing .494 OBP He is doing this under the radar, but I think he may have a hell of a season the way he is going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 his home runs are lagging a bit so far but im totally sure that that will improve. I think we can expect great things this year... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Doesn't he usually start a little slow on the power numbers? I seem to recall him as a May/June explosion of homers in the past. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm waaaaay too lazy today to go stat-hunting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettysburg32 Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Even if he does hit only 25-28 HR's (which is about his pace). I'd definitly take that if, on the other hand, he hits over .300 and nearly .500 OBP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 that type of batter's eye to get all those walks means perhaps he is not getting that many good pitches to hit the home runs with and I'd have to believe the hrs will come with the batter's eye being that exact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Switch them back? Magglio - 350 OBP. Frank - 490 OBP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Switch them back? Magglio - 350 OBP. Frank - 490 OBP Honestly I think those numbers would be vastly different if they were switched anyway. Maggs has Frank hitting behind him, and it getting pitches to hit. Hence the big power and clutch numbers he is throwing up. Carlos on the other hand is hitting like s***, so they have no reason to pitch to Frank. I think the fact that Frank is a waaaaaaaay more disiplined hitter than Maggs makes him better to hit in front of a slumping Lee than Maggs would be. I think Frank at least keeps the line moving better. The good thing has been Pauly has been clutch so far this year, taking up Lee's slack. That is the move I would think about is swapping Pauly and Lee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFanForever Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Switch them back? Magglio - 350 OBP. Frank - 490 OBP tinker tinker tinker. Is JM at your house Brando? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Honestly I think those numbers would be vastly different if they were switched anyway. Maggs has Frank hitting behind him, and it getting pitches to hit. Hence the big power and clutch numbers he is throwing up. Carlos on the other hand is hitting like s***, so they have no reason to pitch to Frank. I think the fact that Frank is a waaaaaaaay more disiplined hitter than Maggs makes him better to hit in front of a slumping Lee than Maggs would be. I think Frank at least keeps the line moving better. The good thing has been Pauly has been clutch so far this year, taking up Lee's slack. That is the move I would think about is swapping Pauly and Lee. That's why Crede is such a big key to this line-up -- he protects Kong, who protects Caballo, who protects Frank...etc. Uribe Valentin Ordonez Thomas Lee Konerko Crede Rowand Olivo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Even if he does hit only 25-28 HR's (which is about his pace). We've only played 21 games. That is roughly 1/8 of games to be played. 4 HR times 8 is 32 HR, and not 25. Plus, he just missed 3 games against the Yankees, so he has played 18 games, which is 1/9 of games to be played. He has homered once per 13 to 14 at bats thus far. Multiply that times 500 ABs and you have roughly 38 HR. Once again, people think that April is over, and therefore, we're 1/6 of the way through. Remember, we're not Cubs fans. This is inexcusable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 thanks for the clarification... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 thanks for the clarification... Hey, no problem. Maybe the April 5 start has thrown everyone off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 Doesn't he usually start a little slow on the power numbers? I seem to recall him as a May/June explosion of homers in the past. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I'm waaaaay too lazy today to go stat-hunting. I am quite sure you are correct. I predicted that he could have like a .300 50 150 1.100 season before the season started, and Frank has done nothing but try and help my "could-be" prediction this month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 that prediction is freaking insane!! but i like it... B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 I am quite sure you are correct. I predicted that he could have like a .300 50 150 1.100 season before the season started, and Frank has done nothing but try and help my "could-be" prediction this month. You said that he'd hit .350 I have the Beatles "Don't Let Me Down" playing in the background...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gettysburg32 Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 We've only played 21 games. That is roughly 1/8 of games to be played. 4 HR times 8 is 32 HR, and not 25. Plus, he just missed 3 games against the Yankees, so he has played 18 games, which is 1/9 of games to be played. He has homered once per 13 to 14 at bats thus far. Multiply that times 500 ABs and you have roughly 38 HR. Once again, people think that April is over, and therefore, we're 1/6 of the way through. Remember, we're not Cubs fans. This is inexcusable. Fair enough dude. I was just estimating and guessing we were about 1/7th of the way through, which is how a got the 28 number. I was attempting to make the point that, even if his power numbers are a bit less than they were at the height of his career, his contributions as far as BA and OBP would still be very impressive and valuable. Thanks for the correction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 You said that he'd hit .350 I have the Beatles "Don't Let Me Down" playing in the background...... .300, .350 - what's the difference? "Don't let me down"...coincidence? I think not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted April 30, 2004 Share Posted April 30, 2004 I predicted that he could have like a .300 50 150 1.100 season before the season started, and Frank has done nothing but try and help my "could-be" prediction this month. Holy s***! 40 HR I cood see. 120 RBI I cood see. 975 OPS I cood see. Heaven help us all if you're right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 1, 2004 Share Posted May 1, 2004 Holy s***! 40 HR I cood see. 120 RBI I cood see. 975 OPS I cood see. Heaven help us all if you're right. If he is right, it is 1983 all over again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 1, 2004 Share Posted May 1, 2004 Holy s***! 40 HR I cood see. 120 RBI I cood see. 975 OPS I cood see. Heaven help us all if you're right. All I can do is hope I'm right. I personally doubt he puts up .350 50 150 1.100...just said he could put it up(and obviously anyone could put it up, but I obviously meant he had a much better shot at it then nearly anyone in the league). If I'm right, I'll be preparing for mid-October baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 1, 2004 Share Posted May 1, 2004 Just one more great year from Frank would secure his place in the HOF. Personally, I think he's a lock right now, but some seem to have doubts. Another MVP season would erase those doubts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted May 1, 2004 Share Posted May 1, 2004 Just one more great year from Frank would secure his place in the HOF. Personally, I think he's a lock right now, but some seem to have doubts. Another MVP season would erase those doubts. The White Sox making the playoffs and Frank hittin well in the post season would do no harm either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 1, 2004 Share Posted May 1, 2004 Just one more great year from Frank would secure his place in the HOF. Personally, I think he's a lock right now, but some seem to have doubts. Another MVP season would erase those doubts. You and I think alike on this subject. I think right now, he's a HoFer, as in, if he retired tomorrow, maybe 7-10 years down the road Thomas is making his acceptance speech at Cooperstown. However, if he puts up 2-3 more good years in a row, makes the playoffs in those 2 or all 3 of those years, and makes some noise once in the playoffs, I think he could very well be a first ballot HoFer. Having the 3rd best active OPS(behind only Bonds and Helton, though he may be 4th behind Ramirez too), and in the top 10 in OPS all time(he has the highest career OPS without having it over 1.000...I believe he's at .996 or so), he should be a lock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 1, 2004 Share Posted May 1, 2004 You and I think alike on this subject. I think right now, he's a HoFer, as in, if he retired tomorrow, maybe 7-10 years down the road Thomas is making his acceptance speech at Cooperstown. However, if he puts up 2-3 more good years in a row, makes the playoffs in those 2 or all 3 of those years, and makes some noise once in the playoffs, I think he could very well be a first ballot HoFer. Having the 3rd best active OPS(behind only Bonds and Helton, though he may be 4th behind Ramirez too), and in the top 10 in OPS all time(he has the highest career OPS without having it over 1.000...I believe he's at .996 or so), he should be a lock. A world series title would do more for a First Ballot Hall of Fame induction, than an MVP award would. JMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted May 1, 2004 Share Posted May 1, 2004 Just one more great year from Frank would secure his place in the HOF. Personally, I think he's a lock right now, but some seem to have doubts. Another MVP season would erase those doubts. I hope he goes Edgar on us and becomes a 1st ballot HOF'er with a couple of rings on his finger -- as a member of the White Sox, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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