CSF Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 June 7-9 First round 1. San Diego Padres 2. Detroit Tigers 3. New York Mets 4. Tampa Bay Devil Rays 5. Milwaukee Brewers 6. Cleveland Indians 7. Cincinnati Reds 8. Baltimore Orioles 9. Colorado Rockies 10. Texas Rangers 11. Pittsburgh Pirates 12. Anaheim Angels 13. Montreal Expos 14. Kansas City Royals 15. Arizona Diamondbacks 16. Toronto Blue Jays 17. Los Angeles Dodgers 18. White Sox 19. St. Louis Cardinals 20. Minnesota Twins 21. Philadelphia Phillies 22. Minnesota Twins (from Seattle for Eddie Guardado) 23. New York Yankees (from Houston for Andy Pettitte) 24. Oakland Athletics (from Boston for Keith Foulke) 25. Minnesota Twins (from Cubs for LaTroy Hawkins) 26. Oakland Athletics 27. Florida Marlins 28. Los Angeles Dodgers (from N.Y. Yankees for Paul Quantrill) 29. Kansas City Royals (from San Francisco for Michael Tucker) 30. Texas Rangers (from Atlanta for John Thomson) Sandwich picks for Type A players 31. Kansas City Royals - Raul Ibanez 32. Toronto Blue Jays - Kelvim Escobar 33. Los Angeles Dodgers - Paul Quantrill 34. White Sox - Bartolo Colon 35. Minnesota Twins - Eddie Guardado 36. Oakland Athletics - Keith Foulke 37. New York Yankees - Andy Pettitte 38. White Sox - Tom Gordon 39. Minnesota Twins - LaTroy Hawkins 40. Oakland Athletics - Miguel Tejada 41. New York Yankees - David Wells Second Round 42. New York Yankees (from San Diego for David Wells) 43. Detroit Tigers 44. New York Mets 45. Tampa Bay Devil Rays 46. Milwaukee Brewers 47. Cleveland Indians 48. Cincinnati Reds 49. Oakland Athletics (from Baltimore for Miguel Tejada) 50. Colorado Rockies 51. Texas Rangers 52. Pittsburgh Pirates 53. White Sox (from Anaheim for Bartolo Colon) 54. Montreal Expos 55. Kansas City Royals 56. Arizona Diamondbacks 57. Toronto Blue Jays 58. Los Angeles Dodgers 59. White Sox 60. St. Louis Cardinals 61. Minnesota Twins 62. Philadelphia Phillies 63. Kansas City Royals (from Seattle for Raul Ibanez) 64. Houston Astros 65. Boston Red Sox 66. Cubs 67. Oakland Athletics 68. Florida Marlins 69. White Sox (from N.Y. Yankees for Tom Gordon) 70. San Francisco Giants 71. Atlanta Braves Third Round 72. San Diego Padres 73. Detroit Tigers 74. New York Mets 75. Tampa Bay Devil Rays 76. Milwaukee Brewers 77. Cleveland Indians 78. Cincinnati Reds 79. Baltimore Orioles 80. Colorado Rockies 81. Texas Rangers 82. Pittsburgh Pirates 83. Toronto Blue Jays (from Anaheim for Kelvim Escobar) 84. Montreal Expos 85. Kansas City Royals 86. Arizona Diamondbacks 87. Toronto Blue Jays 88. Los Angeles Dodgers 89. White Sox 90. St. Louis Cardinals 91. Minnesota Twins 92. Philadelphia Phillies 93. Seattle Mariners 94. Houston Astros 95. Boston Red Sox 96. Cubs 97. Oakland Athletics 98. Florida Marlins 99. New York Yankees 100. San Francisco Giants 101. Atlanta Braves Fourth Round to 50th Round 102. San Diego Padres 103. Detroit Tigers 104. New York Mets 105. Tampa Bay Devil Rays 106. Milwaukee Brewers 107. Cleveland Indians 108. Cincinnati Reds 109. Baltimore Orioles 110. Colorado Rockies 111. Texas Rangers 112. Pittsburgh Pirates 113. Anaheim Angels 114. Montreal Expos 115. Kansas City Royals 116. Arizona Diamondbacks 117. Toronto Blue Jays 118. Los Angeles Dodgers 119. White Sox 120. St. Louis Cardinals 121. Minnesota Twins 122. Philadelphia Phillies 123. Seattle Mariners 124. Houston Astros 125. Boston Red Sox 126. Cubs 127. Oakland Athletics 128. Florida Marlins 129. New York Yankees 130. San Francisco Giants 131. Atlanta Braves Copyright © 2004, ChicagoSports.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 That's quite a few early picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
israel4ever Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 5 picks in the first 59...we SHOULD get some players!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 First round 22. Minnesota Twins (from Seattle for Eddie Guardado) 25. Minnesota Twins (from Cubs for LaTroy Hawkins) Can someone explain how Minnesota has two first round picks AND two sandwich picks for Guardado and Hawkins? Why didn't we get similar treatment for Colon and Gordon? I see Sox have two sandwhich picks (follwed by two second round for colon/gordon), but how the hell did Hawkins and Guardado end up as 1st rounders? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Can someone explain how Minnesota has two first round picks AND two sandwich picks for Guardado and Hawkins? Why didn't we get similar treatment for Colon and Gordon? I see Sox have two sandwhich picks (follwed by two second round for colon/gordon), but how the hell did Hawkins and Guardado end up as 1st rounders? When a team signs multiple FAs the team that has the worst record of teams losing FAs gets the pick, the next in line gets the 2nd round. We just had dumb luck of who we lost people to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Can someone explain how Minnesota has two first round picks AND two sandwich picks for Guardado and Hawkins? Why didn't we get similar treatment for Colon and Gordon? I see Sox have two sandwhich picks (follwed by two second round for colon/gordon), but how the hell did Hawkins and Guardado end up as 1st rounders? good question -- Here's the ESB rankings they use to help determine compensation. http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam031029/mlb_al-ap.html http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam031029/mlb_nl-ap.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 I can't wait to see who we draft. Maybe some awesome infielders or pitchers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 I can't wait to see who we draft. Maybe some awesome infielders or pitchers. Most likely a there will be some middle infield taken high in this draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 When a team signs multiple FAs the team that has the worst record of teams losing FAs gets the pick, the next in line gets the 2nd round. We just had dumb luck of who we lost people to. It's a little more complicated than that..... When a team signs a Type A free agent, the team losing the player is awarded the first round pick of the team that signed the player if that pick is in the second half of the first round (picks 16-30). If the signing team's 1st round pick is in the first half of the round (picks 1-15), the team that lost the free agent gets that team's second round pick, instead of their first. In this scenario, the Angels signed Colon, but they were slotted to pick 12th overall, meaning the Sox get the Angels second round pick instead of their first. When teams sign multiple free agents, the team that loses the highest rated player gets the first round pick and the team with the next highest gets their second round pick. The Yankees signed both Paul Quantril and Tom Gordon. According to the rankings, The Cheat posted above, Quantril was rated higher than Gordon, giving the Dodgers the Yanks first round pick and the White Sox their second round slot. This applies only to free agents that were offered arbitration by their original club, so some free agents such as Greg Maddux, Gary Sheffield, etc. are not factored in. No compensation is due the teams for losing such players. For instance, if the Braves would have offered arbitration to Gary Sheffield, they would have gotten the Yanks 1st rd. pick, the Dodgers would have gotten their 2nd rounder and the Sox their 3rd round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mathew Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 It's a little more complicated than that..... When a team signs a Type A free agent, the team losing the player is awarded the first round pick of the team that signed the player if that pick is in the second half of the first round (picks 16-30). If the signing team's 1st round pick is in the first half of the round (picks 1-15), the team that lost the free agent gets that team's second round pick, instead of their first. In this scenario, the Angels signed Colon, but they were slotted to pick 12th overall, meaning the Sox get the Angels second round pick instead of their first. When teams sign multiple free agents, the team that loses the highest rated player gets the first round pick and the team with the next highest gets their second round pick. The Yankees signed both Paul Quantril and Tom Gordon. According to the rankings, The Cheat posted above, Quantril was rated higher than Gordon, giving the Dodgers the Yanks first round pick and the White Sox their second round slot. This applies only to free agents that were offered arbitration by their original club, so some free agents such as Greg Maddux, Gary Sheffield, etc. are not factored in. No compensation is due the teams for losing such players. For instance, if the Braves would have offered arbitration to Gary Sheffield, they would have gotten the Yanks 1st rd. pick, the Dodgers would have gotten their 2nd rounder and the Sox their 3rd round pick. Likewise for the Alomars, Everitts, ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1549 Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Does anyone know if Jered Weaver is going to be in the draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Does anyone know if Jered Weaver is going to be in the draft? I do believe he is draft eligible, yes. 12-0 with a 1.45 ERA isn't too bad.... but that mullet he is sporting has got to go!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Does anyone know if Jered Weaver is going to be in the draft? W-L ERA IP H R ER BB SO OPP AVG 12-0 1.42 95.1 51 18 15 13 146 .154 ------------------------ He'll go in the top three -- Won't fall past the Mets -- He's likely to be a Boras client as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 I think that is fair for Colon. Since draft picks in baseball have about the lowest rate of success of any sport, I like having lots if picks. As always going after arms, then maybe a 1st baseman, cf, and depending on contract discussions, looking at the OF corners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 you beat me to it Cheat..... scroll back up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulokis Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 when was the last time we drafted high (1-10 picks)? if i can recall correctly we always drafted around picks 15 and up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 when was the last time we drafted high (1-10 picks)? if i can recall correctly we always drafted around picks 15 and up? The last time we had a BAD team was 99 -- So 2000 we drafted "high" -- Borchard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 when was the last time we drafted high (1-10 picks)? if i can recall correctly we always drafted around picks 15 and up? Frank Thomas was drafted about 6th overall. I think that was the last time we had a real high pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 5 picks in the first 59, very nice. This could turn into an extremely good draft for us. We'd better not take more than 1 OF in those first 5, lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 The last time we had a BAD team was 99 -- So 2000 we drafted "high" -- Borchard 1. Sox were not "bad' in 1999 despite sporting a 23 Mill payroll. If Frank's foot didn't bother him all year, forcing him to miss last 25% of the season, Sox would have finished around .500. Now Cubs, on the other hand...... 2. Borchard was taken with a 13th pick, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
False Alarm Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 i haven't read up on it too much yet, but i think it's considered a very pitching-heavy draft. unusually thin talent for position players or something. i wouldn't be surprised to see us take like four pitchers with those first five picks. rex or some of the other minor-league gurus probably know better though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 Is there a list anywhere for draftees and thier stats perhaps? Also, when is the draft? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 1. Sox were not "bad' in 1999 despite sporting a 23 Mill payroll. If Frank's foot didn't bother him all year, forcing him to miss last 25% of the season, Sox would have finished around .500. Now Cubs, on the other hand...... 2. Borchard was taken with a 13th pick, no? Borchard was taken 11th -- The sox won 75 games in 99 -- I put "bad" in quotes cuz on the Northside that would be considered a success -- but that is a bad team by our standards -- 89 was the last full season where we had less than 75 wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 If he falls this far, I'd like to see Jeremy Sowers taken by the Sox with the 18th pick, however, that is highly unlikely to happen...Nonetheless, I think we take a pitcher first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted May 6, 2004 Share Posted May 6, 2004 MnSoxFn (MSF) is the draft guy. I follow it a little bit, but beyond that, just soak in all he shares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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