WhiteSoxPride3035 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 I am here to present the question of will Miguel Olivo get a lot of playing time this season? With the aquisation (again) of veteran catcher Sandy Alomar Jr. and having along side him Josh Paul, will Olivo get a lot of playing time? I'd say Alomar would get the majority, Paul will got some, and Olivo will get little. Alomar is a veteran who can play the game and the White Sox have no reason not to play him when he is able. If he is not, they will probably use Paul more, which won't leave Olivo with a lot of playing time. Just my opinion. What's your's? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doubleM23 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 I am here to present the question of will Miguel Olivo get a lot of playing time this season? Unfortunately, yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 I don't think we'll see much at all of Paul. I think the vast majority of catching (bar Sandy's time on DL if any) will be betrween Olivo and Alomar. One is the future, one is the mentor, and Paul I think exists only for emergencies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 Alomar was signed to be Olivo's backup. Paul will be in AAA or with someone else. Olivo will be fine. There is no need to panic here. Just don't expect All-Star numbers from him and he'll hold his own. Look for him to play about 4-5 days a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete_SSAC Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 Paul will not be leaving AZ. to go to KC. - Pete, who doubts if Paul will even see the inside of USC Field again, let alone in the Sox Uni, and that's fine by him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kj1832 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 I think Miguel Olivo will catch at least 5 days a week with Alomar catching the other 2 days. I also don't see Paul making the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 I sure hope I never see Paul in Silver and Black again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigHurt4evah Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 yeah Jerry said that the starting job is Olivo's. I think we'll see him starting most of the days, FORTUNEATELY. I can't see how having a little bit of a change in scenery is bad. I mean even for teams who have done their homework, wouldn't a fast catcher be a little unexpected?? when we play out-of-division teams, would they really keep an eye on him? Also, when Sandy is playing, couldn't we use Olivo as a pinch-runner? Just a thought... I don't think we'll see much of Paul, even though he hit like .350 last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsSuck1 Posted February 17, 2003 Share Posted February 17, 2003 If it werent for the fact that Sandy is a great mentor for Olivo, I'd rather have Paul back up Miguel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 I am here to present the question of will Miguel Olivo get a lot of playing time this season? Unfortunately, yes. What's your problem with Miguel? Unless you've seen him play in the minors and know something that the rest of us know, I think making a comment like that is absurd. His stats last season were really good, and it sounds like he's got a legitimate chance at being a solid player. He's got speed, and supposedly he's very good defensively. Not only that, he hits for average and he's got pop in his swing. When did all those things become "unfortunate"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Alomar was signed to be Olivo's backup. Paul will be in AAA or with someone else. Olivo will be fine. There is no need to panic here. Just don't expect All-Star numbers from him and he'll hold his own. Look for him to play about 4-5 days a week. What Rex said Paul will be in AAA if he clears waivers, otherwise the Sox 3rd catcher will be Burke who was signed out of the Angels organization. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteSoxPride3035 Posted February 18, 2003 Author Share Posted February 18, 2003 Clujer, I asked the question because last year, when Alomar was with the White Sox, he had all the playing time. Olivo is still a rookie and Almoar is a veteran. It's my opinion that Alomar would have more playing time, it's your opinon that Miguel Olivo will. I had just learned after I posted this from Rex Hudler that Alomar was signed to back up Olivo. If it were a battle for the position, I would have to go with Alomar, you would have to go with Olivo. Simple as that. No need to get snippy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Clujer, I asked the question because last year, when Alomar was with the White Sox, he had all the playing time. Olivo is still a rookie and Almoar is a veteran. It's my opinion that Alomar would have more playing time, it's your opinon that Miguel Olivo will. I had just learned after I posted this from Rex Hudler that Alomar was signed to back up Olivo. If it were a battle for the position, I would have to go with Alomar, you would have to go with Olivo. Simple as that. No need to get snippy. Snippy? Me? Heh, if you think that was snippy, you're gonna have to get to know me a little better. Anyway, someone said it was "unfortunate" that a rookie catcher with power, average, speed, and good defense -- granted, at the AA level, but you can't hold that against him -- is going to be contending for the starting role. You've gotta start sometime, and it seems like the Sox feel he's ready to be in the bigs full-time this year. As far as Sandy goes...I would agree that he should be the starting catcher if he wasn't so injury-prone. It seemed last year that he couldn't catch more than 2 or 3 games in a row without needing to sit down and rest. That is unacceptable in today's game. And with either Olivo or Paul, they are going to need regular work in order to get into a rhythm. Playing sparingly doesn't bode well with youngsters (in most cases -- see Jeff Leifer if you need evidence of that). I say send Paul down to AAA (or trade him, I don't care much for him anyway), and keep Olivo and Sandy on the team. Have Sandy "mentor" Miguel, as planned, and give 75-80% of the starts to Miguel. Of course, if Miguel is hitting .220 with 4 HR and 13 RBI at the end of May, then you're obviously going to have to re-evaluate things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Let Alomar teach Olivo, but Olivo has to be the starter and get more and more playing time over time. First week Alomar will play more but after that Olivo will continue to get more and more time and be allowed to adjust to major league pitching. Olivo will have his struggles but he is great behind the plate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 I think Miguel Olivo will catch at least 5 days a week with Alomar catching the other 2 days. I also don't see Paul making the team. I think you will see Alomar definitely starting when Colon is pitching and, for the first month/month and a half at least, you'll see a pretty even distribution of starts for both Alomar and Olivo. After Alomar's knees start acting up, expect to see Olivo in the more traditional everyday role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubKilla Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 His stats last season were really good, and it sounds like he's got a legitimate chance at being a solid player. He's got speed, and supposedly he's very good defensively. Not only that, he hits for average and he's got pop in his swing. When did all those things become "unfortunate"? You forgot about that cannon-arm that many a sports writer has likened to a "in-his-prime-and-healthy" IRod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 geez us.. why is everyone questioning miguel..........give it up folks.. he rocks and he will do just fine up here........i would rather have 1/2 a miguel than 1 whole josh paul.............and with sandy backing him up things behind the plate will be fine.... better worry more whats going to happen at 2nd and ss more ........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 better worry more whats going to happen at 2nd and ss more ........... Worried about SS? Why? Jose's gonna do just fine. The positions we need to worry about are CF (Aaron needs to step-up and put up decent numbers), 3rd (Joe's first full season, and he won't be facing some of the September call-up scrubby pitchers that he faced last seasn), and our #5 starter (we're either going to have a rookie in Rauch or a veteran on their last legs in Loaiza or Heredia). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 (choking cough cough).... jose will be fine???? mr. errors himself.. and he doesnt even have a good backup.....were screwed at the ss and 2nd base spots........... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clujer420 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 (choking cough cough).... jose will be fine???? mr. errors himself.. and he doesnt even have a good backup.....were screwed at the ss and 2nd base spots........... You're calling someone "Mr. Errors" after just 10 minutes ago saying the Sox would have been better off in 2001 and 2002 with Mike Caruso? LOL! Anyway, Jose might make a few too many errors, but what he brings to the team in his leadership and energy EASILY makes up for them. Plus, he's got a ton of pop in his bat. He's going to hit in front of Thomas, Mags, Paul, and Carlos, so he's going to see a ton of pitches that he can drive, and he's probably going to do just as well, if not better, than he's done that past 3 seasons. He's averaged 26 HR and 78 RBI since 2000 -- for a #2 hitter (and a SS), that's pretty darned good. 2B is a bit of a question mark, I agree. But, D'Angelo showed excellent patience last season, and if he can live up to some of his hype and potential that he was bombarded with when he was with the Yankees, he'll score a ton of runs for the '03 Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hotsoxchick1 Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 what part of caruso was a joke didnt you understand???? geez....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supernuke Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 [ Of course, if Miguel is hitting .220 with 4 HR and 13 RBI at the end of May, then you're obviously going to have to re-evaluate things. I could live with those numbers as long as his D is solid. They would be an improvement over last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 were screwed at the ss and 2nd base spots........... That's no way for a hot chick to be treatin' D-Jim & Manos. Them's two is de real deal, see. Unless you meant "oooh, we, like, have two amazing studs up the middle...yay!". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 Olivo will firmly entrench himself as the starting catcher. Rowand put up decent numbers in CF after Lofton was traded, and if that injury doesn't interfere with his swing, there is no reason to think he won't do so again. I'm more than happy to have Jose back at SS where he belongs. Crede and Jiminez sure looked good to me last year. I also believe we have enough quality candidates for the 5th starters spot, that we will find someone that is at least serviceable in that role. I really like this team this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted February 18, 2003 Share Posted February 18, 2003 I could live with those numbers as long as his D is solid. They would be an improvement over last year. My friend, don't ever say that. I remember the days when it was said if our shortstop coulld just hit 240 but played stellar defense... and then along came Royce... who actually had a better batting year than Valentin last year, hit 260 for us, and did it mater? If our catcher hits 220 he will be a bum in the fans minds and I will think it is woefully inadequte. And 220 will only be improvement over MJ, not over Sandy and JP. I am following HSC on this, I think Olivo will be fine. If he is around 260 his first year, cool, but I want that average higher plus the stellar defense plus a good chemistry in the clubhouse player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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