southsider2k5 Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4961694/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 He names a few others. McCain is a rare politician that would be equally uncomfortable in either party. He's a conservative Democrat or a Liberl Republican, either way, I would vote for him over either of our choices today. He could have been a deciding factor for either candidate if they had asked him to be veep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 He won't run w/ Kerry as he already said and Bush and he don't get along after Rove's shenanigans to get Bush the nod and McCain doesn't agree w/ Bush's policies much at all since McCain is a real conservative and Bush is a neo-con thug. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 He won't run w/ Kerry as he already said and Bush and he don't get along after Rove's shenanigans to get Bush the nod and McCain doesn't agree w/ Bush's policies much at all since McCain is a real conservative and Bush is a neo-con thug. You never cease to amaze me APU. Who the hell are you to judge what a "real" conservative is anyway? Being as far out on the left as you are you'd probably say Jesse Jackson is a freeking conservative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LowerCaseRepublican Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 You never cease to amaze me APU. Who the hell are you to judge what a "real" conservative is anyway? Being as far out on the left as you are you'd probably say Jesse Jackson is a freeking conservative. Real conservatives are for smaller government, an end to the nanny state, increased personal freedoms, lack of government involvement in peoples' lives. Increasing the size of government 43%, increasing govt initiatives like corporate welfare etc. to increase the teats of the ineffective nanny state, the PATRIOT Act decreasing personal freedoms ie http://www.hillnews.com/news/051204/patriot.aspx "Presidential push fails to quell GOP fear of Patriot Act", increasing the drug war and starting it hardcore under Reagan etc. I think real conservatives are Libertarians and not the shills that the Republican party has become. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kapkomet Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Real conservatives are for smaller government, an end to the nanny state, increased personal freedoms, lack of government involvement in peoples' lives. Increasing the size of government 43%, increasing govt initiatives like corporate welfare etc. to increase the teats of the ineffective nanny state, the PATRIOT Act decreasing personal freedoms ie http://www.hillnews.com/news/051204/patriot.aspx "Presidential push fails to quell GOP fear of Patriot Act", increasing the drug war and starting it hardcore under Reagan etc. I think real conservatives are Libertarians and not the shills that the Republican party has become. Mark this down. I agree! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 You never cease to amaze me APU. Who the hell are you to judge what a "real" conservative is anyway? Being as far out on the left as you are you'd probably say Jesse Jackson is a freeking conservative. Nuke, you've been quick to label what a liberal thinks, or have you forgotten According to most liberals those people who have money and a warm place to sleep are the reason that other people are homeless. They believe that life is a zero-sum-game and that even the most modest of the haves are evil oppressors of the have-nots. :headshake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 12, 2004 Share Posted May 12, 2004 Mark this down. I agree! I agree minus the real conservatives are libertarians argument. I like McCain, but I think he's too outspoken to ever become president. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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