redandwhite Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 The other potential bat is Jeremy Reed although I don't see him up here quite yet. I also think Jose may very well be on the block. So if you ask me, Jose and/or Konerko will be on the move for a starting pitcher and I think they will then move Gload to the starting position at 1st and then eventually add Reed for cf, imo. Reed needs more time to progress at Charlotte... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 Brewers fans would boycott if they trade Sheets after sundays game.. When was the last time a major trade took place in May? Obviously, this trade will take place in June or July. Some team that thinks they need another starter and potential ace will probably go out and get him. I could see Baltimore wanting him, the Yanks, Rangers, White Sox, possibly the Mets, etc...more teams then most people think will probably be in the hunt for him, not only for this year, but for years to come(which is why there will be more teams then people think). One name not mentioned enough is Livan Hernandez, and I believe I have mentioned it before. He is battle tested, he is a horse, and he would not cost very much. Send a couple of decent prospects to Montreal, and Livan is probably yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 When was the last time a major trade took place in May? Obviously, this trade will take place in June or July. Some team that thinks they need another starter and potential ace will probably go out and get him. I could see Baltimore wanting him, the Yanks, Rangers, White Sox, possibly the Mets, etc...more teams then most people think will probably be in the hunt for him, not only for this year, but for years to come(which is why there will be more teams then people think). One name not mentioned enough is Livan Hernandez, and I believe I have mentioned it before. He is battle tested, he is a horse, and he would not cost very much. Send a couple of decent prospects to Montreal, and Livan is probably yours. well, obviously KW, along with many people here think that changes need to be made here in May... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 well, obviously KW, along with many people here think that changes need to be made here in May... Exactly, sorry bolding words looked like fun. Anways kenny will make a move and he'll make one quite soon I believe. Jas you make a great point about the financial flexibility right now. Peter Gammons,(yes I know it's peter gammons so not a great source) brought up Kris Benson again on the 11 o'clock bbtn, but if Kenny is looking to acquire him he must be trying to also trade PK or carlos because I'm positive he has no money to spend right now, I wonder how he's trying to work that out. Kenny is probably the most aggressive gm in baseball and I don't think it's just a coincidence gammons keeps mentioning him with trade talks. I think there might be a trade before Diaz's next start against the twinkies. I said before in other threads that if the sox could get rid of pk or carlos even for prospects it would be addition by subtraction meaning I think the sox offense is better off with gload starting at 1b then pk(I really love watching ross play) and reed out in lf then carlos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 anyone else thinking rushing Jeremy Reed is pointless and stupid on the White Sox part? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 anyone else thinking rushing Jeremy Reed is pointless and stupid on the White Sox part? It'd be great for the sox to take their time with him, but I think he'd be more beneficial to the white sox then clee even if he didn't produce at a huge level right away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 anyone else thinking rushing Jeremy Reed is pointless and stupid on the White Sox part? yeah because when he does not succeed people will be ripping him apart just like diaz now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 It'd be great for the sox to take their time with him, but I think he'd be more beneficial to the white sox then clee even if he didn't produce at a huge level right away. I know its hard to compare a position player to a pitcher, but during the Red Sox Dan Duquette era he rushed many pitchers to the minors including Paxton Crawford, Brian Rose, Casey, Sun Woo Kim, Jin Ho Cho etc. that ended up draining the Red Sox minor league system for years. We all know the kids got talent, but whether or not he can perform at a major league level this season is the question, and when you have Carlos Lee under contract among others, I say leave Reed in the minors and use others such as Konerko to bring in a starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 anyone else thinking rushing Jeremy Reed is pointless and stupid on the White Sox part? If the Sox improved in other areas to the point that Reed could be brought up in the 8 hole and just allowed to play, then I woudln't have a problem with it. Either way I feel he's destine for Chicago by June. I think he would already be here had he not been suffering from the banged up wrist. Once he's healthy or at least feeling near healthy (and in turn hitting the ball well) he will be in Chicago, imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 anyone else thinking rushing Jeremy Reed is pointless and stupid on the White Sox part? With all Reed's hype, he should be good enough to be a starting pitcher for us. I say no to Benson...I wouldn't mind Sheets. What about Kennedy out in COlorado? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 With all Reed's hype, he should be good enough to be a starting pitcher for us. I say no to Benson...I wouldn't mind Sheets. What about Kennedy out in COlorado? i agree benson is just way to much of a risk and he is not pitching as well as some people thinkl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 With all Reed's hype, he should be good enough to be a starting pitcher for us. I say no to Benson...I wouldn't mind Sheets. What about Kennedy out in COlorado? great trade for Colorado to get Kennedy who LaMar had completely given up on.. I like Elarton, but what about giving Scott Elarton a shot once he is released by the Rockies? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 why would u want elarton he has proven nothing in his career and he is getting smoked this year more so than any other. i know its early but i do not see him doing much better .just seems like a waste of time and effort to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 why would u want elarton he has proven nothing in his career and he is getting smoked this year more so than any other. i know its early but i do not see him doing much better .just seems like a waste of time and effort to me Well he did have a 17 win season once, he'd be virtually free.. I dont know, just seemed like an alright option when i was typing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodAsGould Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 how about jason jennings on colorado his numbers dont look great but can you really blame him with the park he is in and i dont think the rockies are that attached to him since their team relies on hitting the ball out of the park at home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 I really wouldnt mind one of these Colorado youngsters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 i think san diego is in a good position for the future with peavy and eaton why or why can the sox not bring someone up and produce like them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 For the record, Gammons did not say KW wasgoing after Benson, nor even that there were any talks between the Sox and Bucs about him. He simply said Benson was "out there". So, if the Sox don't get Benson this is not "more bulls*** reporting from Gammons". I think Benson is ok as a number 5. I know Brando wants us to get a number 1 and push everyone else back a spot, but if we are looking for someone to step in the Wright/Diaz slot, then Benson should be more than adequate. It all depends on KW's plan of attack, or what he would consider the most bang for the buck out of the options available to him. Any starting pitcher that can at least be effective in the number 5 slot would be an improvement for this team. As for the Konerko part of his comments, KW definitely needs to do something in that regard. In fact, that should have been done after the 2000 season when Seattle just shut down our offense in the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 As for the Konerko part of his comments, KW definitely needs to do something in that regard. In fact, that should have been done after the 2000 season when Seattle just shut down our offense in the playoffs. I still think a trade for John Olerud could be an option, gives us more payroll flexibility after this year when Olerud either retires or his contract runs out I think. Then with Valentin and Koch leavin with Olerud, we can make a run at Delgado and some pitching. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 I know Brando wants us to get a number 1 and push everyone else back a spot I think after 86 years....with Cubs threatening to cement their dominance.....it's the least Sox could do. I am unresonable like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 hell,if they could get a number two starter i would be jumping up and down for joy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 i think san diego is in a good position for the future with peavy and eaton why or why can the sox not bring someone up and produce like them Guess you don't pay attention to the minors, Kris Honel's down there and once he gets healthy and rolling again this year like he has since he was drafted in 2001, he'll be the next big thing pitching wise for the White Sox. Homegrown Chicago boy with nasty stuff...Can't wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 I think after 86 years....with Cubs threatening to cement their dominance.....it's the least Sox could do. I am unresonable like that. I don't think that is an unreasonable opinion at all. I don't know what options are available to KW right now. He may have to settle for something less than an "ace" even if he wants to acquire one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 Well Eaton came from the Phillies (via Andy Ashby) and Peavy didn't exactly explode onto the scene. The Pads also dealt with Tankersley and Oliver Perez's struggles and really Peavy was the only guy that panned out. At the same time, Eaton took quite a while to develop because every time he'd get rolling he'd get hurt. Peavy is a stud though. Still, 99% of all youngsters take time to develop once reaching the majors. And Aboz, for whatever reason I have some doubts about Honel. I'd like to see him come up with some better secondary pitches to go with his knuckle curve and fastball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 Well Eaton came from the Phillies (via Andy Ashby) and Peavy didn't exactly explode onto the scene. The Pads also dealt with Tankersley and Oliver Perez's struggles and really Peavy was the only guy that panned out. At the same time, Eaton took quite a while to develop because every time he'd get rolling he'd get hurt. Peavy is a stud though. Still, 99% of all youngsters take time to develop once reaching the majors. And Aboz, for whatever reason I have some doubts about Honel. I'd like to see him come up with some better secondary pitches to go with his knuckle curve and fastball. Give him an average changeup and another decent pitch to go along with his fastball and knuckle curve which are plus pitches and I think he'll be fine...Who knows, if Coop is still around when it's Honel's time they may teach him the cutter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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