NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 Last time we got Jon & he was screwed out of a win when he deserved it. Lets see if he can get us back on track tomorrow after the way that tee ball stand Felix Diaz got slapped around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 Garland will pitch well the rest of the year, I envision a era near 4.00 with 14-15 wins...He'll show up tomorrow. If we don't knock Durbin around, it'll be embarassing. It was bad enough we made that clown Greisinger from the Twins looks great on Saturday, but Durbin is even worse than him....Better knock him around early and often and give Jon some run support. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 Last time we got Jon & he was screwed out of a win when he deserved it. Lets see if he can get us back on track tomorrow after the way that tee ball stand Felix Diaz got slapped around. if the sox hit like they have recently been hitting it may not matter if u put cy young out there it would most likely result in the same outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 Jon has a history with Cleveland. Let's just say that history involves Jon bent over and Chief Wahoo standing behind him. G GS W L SV CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP BAA 12 11 2 7 0 0 0 61.2 64 46 46 8 37 31 6.71 1.64 .281 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 that has to be by far the worst he pitches against any one team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 18, 2004 Share Posted May 18, 2004 i for one think we get judy after seeing those stats and the indians are hitting extremely well as of late, which is not a good combination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 i apoligize jon for ever doubting u, u pitched one hell of a game tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 19, 2004 Author Share Posted May 19, 2004 We got JON That's what I'm talking about!!!!! Hopefully the Pen can nail down a well deserved win for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pastime Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Well, we got Jon tonight, but I still saw the Scarecrow (Joe Crede), the TinMan (Carlos Lee), and the Cowardly Lion (Ron Karkovice - don't know why he was there). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Jon Garland. Nice outing; tonight was his coming out party for the rest of the 2004 season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSF Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Now would some of you quit it with the "Judy" Garland talk. Back to back strong performances. Get off the guy's case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Jon has a history with Cleveland. Let's just say that history involves Jon bent over and Chief Wahoo standing behind him. G GS W L SV CG SHO IP H R ER HR BB K ERA WHIP BAA 12 11 2 7 0 0 0 61.2 64 46 46 8 37 31 6.71 1.64 .281 Cleveland got bent over tonight by Garland and then Koch... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 19, 2004 Author Share Posted May 19, 2004 Now would some of you quit it with the "Judy" Garland talk. Back to back strong performances. Get off the guy's case. For the past 3 years we haven't known which Garland would show up. He's been maddeningly inconsistent having a brilliant outing one time then getting slapped around the next. Hopefully he can put a good streak together and be the dominant pitcher everyone wants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aboz56 Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 His ERA is in the mid 3's after a pretty good portion of the season...Maybe Hawk was right at Soxfest and this is the breakout year for Garland. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 19, 2004 Author Share Posted May 19, 2004 His ERA is in the mid 3's after a pretty good portion of the season...Maybe Hawk was right at Soxfest and this is the breakout year for Garland. We need it to be. We are fortunate to have Schoenweis as successful as he's been so far & with the 5th slot still in limbo we need to have a consistent Garland to round out a solid 1-4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Nuke --- You could make a case for JG being our best starter over the last year -- Take a look at the stats for the last 28 starts Last 28 Starts Pitcher IP ERA Loaiza 181.2 3.72 Buerhle 188.1 3.73 Garland 180 3.95 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 19, 2004 Author Share Posted May 19, 2004 Nuke --- You could make a case for JG being our best starter over the last year -- Take a look at the stats for the last 28 starts Last 28 Starts Pitcher IP ERA Loaiza 181.2 3.72 Buerhle 188.1 3.73 Garland 180 3.95 You do see my point about the consistency issue though right? That ERA looks pretty good to be sure but if you give up nothing one day then 8 the next then you still have a 4.00 ERA. What I want to see from him is the same Garland come out every time like with MB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Excellent. I'm very happy. 3.62 ERA? Beautiful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 If he can lower it alittle, or stay right around there, that would be alot more that many of expected i'm sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Jon is maturing before our very eyes. Does any one else find it annoying how Hawk has to bring up every time Jon starts that he is benefitting from "a manager that shows confidence in him"? It's like Hawk is so cautious never to rip JM by name but he mentions this Jon Garland thing every friggin start. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 You do see my point about the consistency issue though right? That ERA looks pretty good to be sure but if you give up nothing one day then 8 the next then you still have a 4.00 ERA. What I want to see from him is the same Garland come out every time like with MB. Yeah cuz MB would never lay an egg every once in a while yankees game this year DATE OPP RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB PIT BF GSc DEC REL ERA* Apr. 20 NYY L 11-8 2.0 8 8 8 0 2 1 5 4 57 17 7 L(1-1) - 5.96 How about when he pouted and layed another egg in Detroit after not getting to pitch in Yankee stadium last season. DATE OPP RESULT IP H R ER HR BB SO GB FB PIT BF GSc DEC REL ERA* Aug. 29 @DET L 8-4 5.0 10 8 8 1 4 3 8 6 93 28 14 L(11-13) - 4.27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted May 19, 2004 Share Posted May 19, 2004 Yes, Garland is maturing right before our eyes. I know it seems like it's been a long time coming, but really, he's pretty much on a normal schedule as far as ML service time. An added bonus is that he is still very young. He can be a good one for a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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