BrandoFan Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 I saw him with the Cubs last year and this is what he did: -Hit in the clutch - a MUCH better hitter with RO and RISP -After struggling with the Pirates against them, was mashing RHP down the stretch -Came through big time in the playoffs when called upon -Spark plug in the clubhouse - a team mascot almost. Konerko will have all the lefties and will have the incentive to thrive against righties as well or have Simon take those at bats away. I know he's having hamstring issues, they might be giving him away for nothing - Ross Gload perhaps. He loves Chicago - admitted so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 He has poor pitch selection issues and he has a bad swing that has a lot of holes in it. But, I you never know I suppose. He hit well for the Cubs last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 with the recent play of Daryle Ward, Randall Simon was said to be either released or if he accepted the assignment sent down. Go get him, he's virtually free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 I was pushing for him in the off season, he would definately be a good pick-up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sox-r-us Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 And why do we need another 1st baseman who will swing at anything and is slow as hell? Our team is full of them No thanks.....get a pitcher here to pitch every 5th day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 Also konerko makes to much to be platooned no matter how bad he is doing imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted May 29, 2004 Author Share Posted May 29, 2004 And why do we need another 1st baseman who will swing at anything and is slow as hell? Our team is full of them No thanks.....get a pitcher here to pitch every 5th day You must have read my post upside-down. I'll give you another chance to redeem yourself and agree with me. 1...2.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megs04sox Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 randal simon absolutely sucks, sorry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 I saw him with the Cubs last year and this is what he did: -Hit in the clutch - a MUCH better hitter with RO and RISP -After struggling with the Pirates against them, was mashing RHP down the stretch -Came through big time in the playoffs when called upon -Spark plug in the clubhouse - a team mascot almost. Konerko will have all the lefties and will have the incentive to thrive against righties as well or have Simon take those at bats away. I know he's having hamstring issues, they might be giving him away for nothing - Ross Gload perhaps. He loves Chicago - admitted so. We really don't need him with the way Konerko is hitting right now, and we don't need him because we already have Gload... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Socks Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 Simon has two claims to fame. 1) he is the former player who slugged someone dressed like a sausage in a Milwaukee pre-game parade. I think he was with the Pirates at the time; and 2) he is the former Brave who was referred to as a "Fat Monkey" by what's his name, the former Brave reliever who went off the deep end a few years ago. Can't think of his name (senior moment). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 And why do we need another 1st baseman who will swing at anything and is slow as hell? Our team is full of them No thanks.....get a pitcher here to pitch every 5th day bingo! we have a winner! (or at least a post that I agree with!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Simon has two claims to fame. 1) he is the former player who slugged someone dressed like a sausage in a Milwaukee pre-game parade. I think he was with the Pirates at the time; and 2) he is the former Brave who was referred to as a "Fat Monkey" by what's his name, the former Brave reliever who went off the deep end a few years ago. Can't think of his name (senior moment). Why Old Socks.. you are just off your _________. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted May 30, 2004 Author Share Posted May 30, 2004 bingo! we have a winner! (or at least a post that I agree with!) Ah yes.... Why could Sox possibly need a...... 1. Hitter with a live bat and great hand-eye coordination who might just "figure it out" one of these days. If Dummy Sosa could upgrade his hitting IQ and stop chasing everything at 30yo, then so could 29yo Simon. 2. Hitter, who despite having to sit for days on end, had NO problem coming up to the plate against RHP and driving in a big run, after big run, after big run and helping to propel the Cubs into an unlikely divisional crown in '03.......and then repeated that feat when given the opportunity in playoffs - and considering how badly Sox 3-4-5-6 sluggers choked the last time they were in the playoffs, I reckon Sox could use a hitter who is absolutely FEARLESS. 3. Hitter who hits extremely well against righties (Konerko would be handling lefties naturally) when the runners are on base or in scoring position - a money player in other words. Again, if Paul Konerko starts mashing right-handed pitching, then you don't play Simon. But if Paulie struggles against them like has in the last 2 years, then Simon would do a WHOLELOT better than Gload who is awful agaisnt RHP this season. 4. Hitter who despite his wild-swinging just does NOT strike out much and sprays hard grounders all over the place......which, considering he is a LH'ed hitter, means you can do all sorts of imaginative base-running things with Rowand/Olivo/Valentin/Uribe in front of him - how many botched H-n-R have we seen this year already? 5. Hitter who will cost you absolutely NOTHING, both in terms of salary and prospects. That means, for those who haven't figured it out, that Sox can STILL go after a pitcher and whatever other need they have....How do you say "low risk, high reward" in Bonhofferian? 6. Hitter who might just kick it up a notch when he plays on a winning team. Watched him in the dug-out with the Cubs - the guy was dancing and smiling and keeping everybody alive. Moreover, in the recent interview he admitted that he would absolutely LOVE to be back in the "great city of Chicago"......I have a feeling he would also love to play for Ozzzzzzie. I realize that people cannot get over the Sausagegate, producing a knee-jerk response when hearing 'Randal Simon'. I also think some here might have a problem with Sox "picking up Cubs' table scraps" - afterall, if Cubs didn't keep him, he might be worthless......Just more rubbish IMO. GET HIM NOW and light a fire under Paulie's ass against RHP - it's a win-win situation. Sox took a chance on Uribe and it paid off big time. Simon is even more Uribe than Uribe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSOX45 Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 I saw him with the Cubs last year and this is what he did: -Hit in the clutch - a MUCH better hitter with RO and RISP -After struggling with the Pirates against them, was mashing RHP down the stretch -Came through big time in the playoffs when called upon -Spark plug in the clubhouse - a team mascot almost. Konerko will have all the lefties and will have the incentive to thrive against righties as well or have Simon take those at bats away. I know he's having hamstring issues, they might be giving him away for nothing - Ross Gload perhaps. He loves Chicago - admitted so. Good to see someone else wants Simon as badly as I do, I remember this was discussed in an earlier thread....can't remember what it was called though. CWSOX45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Simon might address a few things the team could use, but I'd rather they worry about what they NEED, and what they need is a starter - I'd like a quality #2 or 3 but would gladly settle for a reliable #5 who could win 7-10 games from here on out. Simon might be something to think about over the winter, but another hitter is low on the list of priorities right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted May 30, 2004 Author Share Posted May 30, 2004 Good to see someone else wants Simon as badly as I do, I remember this was discussed in an earlier thread....can't remember what it was called though. CWSOX45 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted May 30, 2004 Author Share Posted May 30, 2004 Simon might address a few things the team could use, but I'd rather they worry about what they NEED, and what they need is a starter - I'd like a quality #2 or 3 but would gladly settle for a reliable #5 who could win 7-10 games from here on out. Simon might be something to think about over the winter, but another hitter is low on the list of priorities right now. Our need for a pitcher has NOTHING to do with Simon whatsoever. Over the winter? Simon could possibly help the Sox big-time this season against RHP - especially if, god forbid, Paulie goes off the deep end again. I am telling you man this time last year I wouldn't have given him a second thought, but I saw something in him during the pennant race and playoffs that makes me think he is much more valuable in the right role than people are giving him credit for. (And that of course does NOT include a possiblity that he might just blossom in the right circumstances, Melvyn Mora style....which would be great if it happens) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Our need for a pitcher has NOTHING to do with Simon whatsoever. Over the winter? Simon could possibly help the Sox big-time this season against RHP - especially if, god forbid, Paulie goes off the deep end again. I am telling you man this time last year I wouldn't have given him a second thought, but I saw something in him during the pennant race and playoffs that makes me think he is much more valuable in the right role than people are giving him credit for. (And that of course does NOT include a possiblity that he might just blossom in the right circumstances, Melvyn Mora style....which would be great if it happens) It DOES to the extent that worrying about acquiring Randall Simon is secondary to acquiring a decent starting pitcher. The 5 hole in the rotation worries me FAR more than anything Simon would possibly add to the offense. Priorities....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 I say stick Simon is RF until Mags is back and then CF when Mags gets back. Haha, no way. I would love Simon, but we got no where for him unless he will come off the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted May 30, 2004 Author Share Posted May 30, 2004 Priorities....... I dunno bout choo, but I consider Paulie's production against RHP since the ASB of 2002 (two years including spring training) something worthy of prioritizing. Again, this has nothing whatsoever to do with our pitching situation; the Randal Simon trade might as well be handled by KW's minions as to not "distrupt" His thought process. There is virtually no downside to this....and the upside is HUGE: Simon finally shrinking his strike-zone and having a break-out season, making Konerko's salary highly expendable - especially if Paulie has himself a 2002-type season and thus becomes a somewhat desired trade commodity. If nothing else, Simon is a colorful character in the clubhouse who will give you clutch hits off RHP down the stretch and possibly in the post-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 I'm not going to go around in circles with you about this. You want Randall Simon and that's fine. I happen to think that starting pitching is more important right now than another first baseman, and that's fine too. You keep wanting to separate this from the pitching situation, but I maintain that the starting pitching situation should be THE TOP item on any shopping list the Sox have, and they should do nothing else until they obtain a decent starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted May 30, 2004 Author Share Posted May 30, 2004 I'm not going to go around in circles with you about this. You want Randall Simon and that's fine. I happen to think that starting pitching is more important right now than another first baseman, and that's fine too. You keep wanting to separate this from the pitching situation, but I maintain that the starting pitching situation should be THE TOP item on any shopping list the Sox have, and they should do nothing else until they obtain a decent starter. Whoa, of course starting pitching is more important right now, that goes without saying. We agree on that, Critic. The thread title isn't "Simon. Get Him. Super Top Priority". Getting that mythical starter will be/is difficult, especially right now while many teams feel like they're in contention. Those teams also know Sox are pretty desperate, and will undoubtedly charge arm and a couple of legs. So while the Great Pitcher Search is on, it doesn't mean Sox should put every other consideration on hold. Get Simon. Put him in the 6 slot behind Valentin and in front of Uribe against RHP. Then get Steve Finley sometime in July. Fine-tune the team while you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 I'm sorry but I don't see how we would have room for Thomas, Konerko, Gload, and Simon. Gload can play the OF but all the other three can do is play 1B and DH. No thanks we need more defensive flexibility then that..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted May 30, 2004 Author Share Posted May 30, 2004 I'm sorry but I don't see how we would have room for Thomas, Konerko, Gload, and Simon. ..... You don't see it? Well, that's too bad isn't.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JimH Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 I like Randall Simon, I think he's a good LH bat and a well liked teammate. My concerns are the defensive flexibility Gload gives the Sox, since Gload is likely the odd man out if they pick up another 1B LH bat. The team needs more speed too. Simon doesn't fit in that respect, but there's no doubt he'll help someone. Guillen appears to really like Gload and I'm not thinking they'll want to move him. Who knows, it's a wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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