knightni Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Rauch and Wunsch are done... Diaz is promising but showed nothing.. So what if it is a 3-1 deal with Pittsburgh? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan Kenobi Posted May 30, 2004 Author Share Posted May 30, 2004 I know, what the f*** was that? We've had enough 3-for-1 deals with the Pirates. And they all blew up in our faces. I don't want KW to make any deals until he's certain he's getting the best players availible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Rauch, Diaz and Wunsch for Kris Benson? Ick...I hate guys with elbow problems...that would set well in my stomach... :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 So what if it is a 3-1 deal with Pittsburgh? The deal is we're giving Pittsburg three players.....two of which could prove valuable at the back end of rotation someday. Far as Kelly, If Wunsch ever regains his velocity then Pittsburghs bullpen would be solitified. Heres what we get in return: an injury plagued, inconsisent starter who can't seem to live up to his potential; pass on that deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Since our new PA director does good things, why doesn't he show a message by 5th starters day! Featuring Celebrity pitcher Garth Brooks! Oh, we have to do something soon...this isn't pretty at all...although I will say this, Rauch didn't do so bad until the 4th... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Who does this mean is the next on the fifth starter carousel? I wouldn't be surprised if it will be Adkins.... It's all a game of chance. The roulette wheel costs us another one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Ick...I hate guys with elbow problems...that would set well in my stomach... :puke I seem to remember a guy with elbow problems we got before the 2000 season that did just fine. Even though you do have to watch out for these injuries, it doesn't mean everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Since our new PA director does good things, why doesn't he show a message by 5th starters day! Featuring Celebrity pitcher Garth Brooks! Oh, we have to do something soon...this isn't pretty at all...although I will say this, Rauch didn't do so bad until the 4th... And Sergio Mitre didn't "do bad" until the fifth. When hitters begin to see a new pitcher for the second, third time they become familiar with their "stuff." Rauch was simply mediocre the first three innings, and in the fourth the Angels caught up to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 I forgot to add, I'm not advocating that deal at all, just saying that some guys, even when they've been injured, are worth a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 I forgot to add, I'm not advocating that deal at all, just saying that some guys, even when they've been injured, are worth a shot. Benson's not one of them -- Not at his salary, not without getting a low-level prospect in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 I will say this, Rauch didn't do so bad until the 4th... Not completely. He got a lot of breaks for example, Timo throwing a guy out at home, Figgins trying to take the extra base in the first, and another big break that I can't remember. His curve just didn't look good today. See you later Rauch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beast Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Not completely. He got a lot of breaks for example, Timo throwing a guy out at home, Figgins trying to take the extra base in the first, and another big break that I can't remember. His curve just didn't look good today. See you later Rauch. Yeah, but those lucky breaks still COULD have made him a winning pitcher without that inning...we would be saying different about him with that one inning...IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Bye Bye Rauch, the Big & Tall by my house is hiring if you're interested. Apparently, he'd walk out early if he blew a sale... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 I am baffled. Why say this now, why not just try to deal him before saying this? I understand that he is never going to pitch for us, but we will likely get a bag of balls for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 I am baffled. Why say this now, why not just try to deal him before saying this? I understand that he is never going to pitch for us, but we will likely get a bag of balls for him. After his latest performance we'd be lucky to get a bucket of used jock straps for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xero Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Brando, this is.......by far.....the most RIDICULOUS comment you have ever posted on this board. Listen, the players have no right to leave their team (even if there not playing) unless a situation warrants it. If Uribe ever left a game he knew he wouldn't play in to "go to vegas" his ass would be gone. Think what kind of message that sends to your teammates. Though I can't argue with Prior kicking someone in the balls....he probably woulld have the advantage of doing that. I'm sure Cub fans would line up for the prestigious opportunity to be kicked by the Messiah. Once again... Contrary to the popular belief, Bigger Unit's biggest offense today was NOT "leaving the team" but rather CRAPPING all over the Sox logo by serving batting practice balls all game long. Had he pitched a shut-out through 8 today and then decided to take off a little earlier....no problem - well some problem, but not nearly big enough. It's not as if Big Hurt or Little Willie, upon seeing him pull out off the drive way, are gonna go, "Gosh, if he can do it, then damnit so can we!!...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Not completely. He got a lot of breaks for example, Timo throwing a guy out at home, Figgins trying to take the extra base in the first, and another big break that I can't remember. His curve just didn't look good today. See you later Rauch. I can honestly say, my curveball has more break then Rauch's and when I throw my curve it goes down in the zone. I do struggle throwing it for a strike, but when I used to pitch on a consistent basis I had every bit the curve Rauch had today. That was brutal and it was finishing at the letters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 I can honestly say, my curveball has more break then Rauch's and when I throw my curve it goes down in the zone. I do struggle throwing it for a strike, but when I used to pitch on a consistent basis I had every bit the curve Rauch had today. That was brutal and it was finishing at the letters. Yeah I agree. My curveball, when executed correctly, breaks from a righties hips to the low and outside corner, sometimes in the dirt. It is better to be in the dirt than right in a hitters power zone. Rauch just didn't have it today. He was putting pitches right there all day and was lucky to only give up 5 runs. All this talk of curveballs is reminding me that I start on the mound Tuesday for my summer league team. It should be fun to test out my new and improved slider and curve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxAce Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Wow, that's all I can say... Wow!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 I had no clue any of this happened with Jon today. I will have to watch BBTN and see if they say anything. I just thought Jon had headed for Charlotte after pitching the game the Sox needed him for and since there was no need for #5 for about 2 weeks it was back to Charlotte. The question I have though is why all these vauted prize prospect we are supposed to have keep failing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnB Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Wow, i had to go to work in the 3rd and come home to see all this insanity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSF Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 I'm trying to give Rauch the benefit of the doubt, but reading all of this stuff about his attitude is making it really tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 I had no clue any of this happened with Jon today. I will have to watch BBTN and see if they say anything. I just thought Jon had headed for Charlotte after pitching the game the Sox needed him for and since there was no need for #5 for about 2 weeks it was back to Charlotte. The question I have though is why all these vauted prize prospect we are supposed to have keep failing? Let's just hope Honel and Reed aren' t the same way. Same with Anderson, Borch, Sweeny, Bikowski, Nanita, etc... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 Yeah I agree. My curveball, when executed correctly, breaks from a righties hips to the low and outside corner, sometimes in the dirt. It is better to be in the dirt than right in a hitters power zone. Rauch just didn't have it today. He was putting pitches right there all day and was lucky to only give up 5 runs. All this talk of curveballs is reminding me that I start on the mound Tuesday for my summer league team. It should be fun to test out my new and improved slider and curve. I throw a deceptively slow fastball......that's it..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.