maggsmaggs Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 JUST ASKING: The Mets planned to inquire about Jon Rauch, the 6-11 White Sox pitcher who drove home to Louisville after getting knocked out of Saturday's game in the fourth inning, drawing the ire of GM Ken Williams. Rauch, Baseball America's 2000 minor-league Player of the Year, has a 2-2 record and 7.24 ERA in nine career big-league appearances. "He severely hampered his chances for ever pitching for the White Sox again," Williams said in a statement. "If any team has any interest in Jon Rauch, they should contact me." http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/baseball...0p-171436c.html Looking at their roster in AAA, the guy I think that could help us is Pat Strange, a former top-prospect for the Mets, maybe a change in scenery would do wonders for both. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Socks Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Maybe Royce Ring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighHeat45 Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Maybe we can make a bigger deal that includes Rauch and maybe Borch and some otheres for Glavine or Leiter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Maybe we can make a bigger deal that includes Rauch and maybe Borch and some otheres for Glavine or Leiter That sounds like something that might work. Anything that'd get someone somewhat reliable in here to plug that hole in our 5th starter slot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Showtime Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Maybe we can make a bigger deal that includes Rauch and maybe Borch and some otheres for Glavine or Leiter Ding! I was waiting for someone to bring up Leiter or Glavine, both are two names you wouldn't expect the Sox to be after, and it wouldn't shock me at all to see Kenny go after one of the them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDsDirtySox Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 I wouldn't mind trying to add Glavine or Leiter to the Sox, but the Mets aren't looking to sell right now. They consider themselves buyers for the time being. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Leiter is one hell of a pitcher, i'd take him, make him our #3 and move jonny and shoney back... wow that'd be amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 How about we don't trade Jon Rausch? Let's step back a minute and I would ask that KW do the same thing. He does in fact seem to have calmed down and is saying something a bit different now. Jon Rausch made a stupid immature move, but he has talent and I think now understands what he did was wrong. But, it's not the end of the world. I think motivation is now the answer. Jon Rausch must be motivated to show the team he made a mistake and has learned from it. He must also want to produce and show that he can be a winner at the ML level. KW is right to say that Jon needs to talk with the other teammates and ask for their blessing for him to continue. I would think they will give it to him and then Jon takes the hill with a fire to show he deserves that chance. Folks it is all about motivation and leadership and don't mistake the importance of character building in developing a winning mindset in a team. I think the cohesiveness of this team will be the thing that gets them to the top after 162 games are played. The demand to trade Jon Rausch is somewhat understandable, but retribution is not the answer. Jon Rausch deserves a spanking and he is getting it, but you don't shoot yourself in the foot after you stick it in your mouth or up your rear. Use this situation for the teams and the organizations advantage to send a message, but also show the willingness to forgive, that's family too. KW can make an important move here and I hope the rush to trade is not it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 How about we don't trade Jon Rausch? Let's step back a minute and I would ask that KW do the same thing. He does in fact seem to have calmed down and is saying something a bit different now. Jon Rausch made a stupid immature move, but he has talent and I think now understands what he did was wrong. But, it's not the end of the world. I think motivation is now the answer. Jon Rausch must be motivated to show the team he made a mistake and has learned from it. He must also want to produce and show that he can be a winner at the ML level. KW is right to say that Jon needs to talk with the other teammates and ask for their blessing for him to continue. I would think they will give it to him and then Jon takes the hill with a fire to show he deserves that chance. Folks it is all about motivation and leadership and don't mistake the importance of character building in developing a winning mindset in a team. I think the cohesiveness of this team will be the thing that gets them to the top after 162 games are played. The demand to trade Jon Rausch is somewhat understandable, but retribution is not the answer. Jon Rausch deserves a spanking and he is getting it, but you don't shoot yourself in the foot after you stick it in your mouth or up your rear. Use this situation for the teams and the organizations advantage to send a message, but also show the willingness to forgive, that's family too. KW can make an important move here and I hope the rush to trade is not it. as great as that sounds... i'd definitely take a package deal that involves us getting Leiter or Glavine over keeping Rauch and Borchard.... plus i kinda just dont like the guy [Rauch] anymore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Does anyone know if either of these guy have no trade clauses? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Does anyone know if either of these guy have no trade clauses? That would be an excellent thing to look into. You would almost think that with the stature these two pitchers have that they just might have those clauses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 if these scenarios come to pass, I am all for it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonkeyKongerko Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Could you imagine? Maddux on the Northside and Glavine on the Southside. That would be insane, too bad it also will never happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 No way the Mets are trading anyone. At least until they are out of it. Plus Leiter is hurt and Glavine would really cost the Sox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AngelasDaddy0427 Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 I say if anyone is interested.... GOODBYE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 I said we should trade for Glavin after the 1 hitter he had. I would love to see Glavin with the Sox. Agreed - after the one-hitter, even of it was just one game, you know the guy still has it. He was hitting all his spots, he mixed up locations and speeds, it was an awesome game to watch. He does carry his contract into 2005, so that will probably make for part of the decision, but I'd personally love for him to be stuck right into the number three spot (Making the rotation Buerhle-Loaiza-Glavine-Garland-Show, L-R-L-R-L). Not to mention he brings the playoff experience. Glavine for Rauch and (Can this deal be made without dealing Borchard-Sweeney-Anderson-Honel-Reed-Munoz?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maggsmaggs Posted May 31, 2004 Author Share Posted May 31, 2004 No way, for the Mets to give away Glavine, We would have to give 1 of our outfield prospects: Borchard, Reed, Anderson or Sweeney. Not to mention a top flight pitching prospect, either Honel or Munoz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnSoxFan Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Glavine just signed as a FA with Mets, cannot trade a guy in first year of long term contract or he immediately becomes a free agent, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rex Hudler Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 can't trade him before JUne 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Glavine just signed as a FA with Mets, cannot trade a guy in first year of long term contract or he immediately becomes a free agent, correct? he signed close to two years ago, he can be traded whenever to whomever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 2004: $10.5M 2005: $10.5M 2006: Mutual option $6.5M or $3.0M buyout Glavine is still owed a ton of money, so the odds of this deal happening are about as slim as they would be for Al Leiter who is owed a very similar amount of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighHeat45 Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 No way, for the Mets to give away Glavine, We would have to give 1 of our outfield prospects: Borchard, Reed, Anderson or Sweeney. Not to mention a top flight pitching prospect, either Honel or Munoz. we are gunna have to give those guys away if we want ANY starting pitcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Glavine is still owed a ton of money, so the odds of this deal happening are about as slim as they would be for Al Leiter who is owed a very similar amount of money. Clearly, Williams has been given the go-ahead from board Chairman Jerry Reinsdorf to take on more payroll if necessary, with one source saying the amount is large. http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sp...tesox-headlines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Glavine just signed as a FA with Mets, cannot trade a guy in first year of long term contract or he immediately becomes a free agent, correct? Glavine is in his 2nd season with the Mets if I recall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted May 31, 2004 Share Posted May 31, 2004 Glavine is in his 2nd season with the Mets if I recall. correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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