greasywheels121 Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Monday, Nov. 29 7 p.m. Purdue at N.C. State, ESPN2 Tuesday, Nov. 30 7 p.m. Michigan at Georgia Tech, ESPN 7:30 p.m. Florida State at Minnesota, ESPN2 9 p.m. Michigan State at Duke, ESPN 9:30 p.m. Maryland at Wisconsin, ESPN2 Wednesday, Dec. 1 7 p.m. Wake Forest at Illinois, ESPN 7:30 p.m. Ohio State at Clemson, ESPN2 9 p.m. North Carolina at Indiana, ESPN 9:30 p.m. Virginia at Northwestern, ESPN2 IU to host North Carolina in Big Ten-ACC Challenge Two of the nation's most storied college basketball programs are scheduled to meet in the sixth annual Big Ten-ACC Challenge. Indiana will host North Carolina on Dec. 1 at 9 p.m. at Branch McCracken Court at Assembly Hall in a game that will be televised by ESPN. The nine-game event will run from Monday, Nov. 29 through Wednesday, Dec. 1. The first day of the Challenge features Purdue at N.C. State. Indiana and North Carolina have combined to win eight national championships. IU holds a 7-4 advantage in the all-time series between the two programs, including four victories in the last five meetings. This is the second time that Indiana and North Carolina have met in The Big Ten-ACC Challenge. On Nov. 28, 2001, A.J. Moye scored 20 points to lead Indiana to a 79-66 victory at North Carolina. With three returning starters, nine returning letterwinners and one of the nation's top recruiting classes set to arrive in Bloomington later this summer, Hoosier coach Mike Davis can't wait to get started. "I am pleased with what our guys have been doing this spring and summer," Davis said. "They're intense and working hard in the weight room, and the attitude has been great. We learned so much last season, but now that is behind us, and we're ready to move forward." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Are your boys the favs in the Big 10 this season Greasy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Virginia! You gotta love the name Branch McCracken Court. Nothing could better summarize the state of Indiana than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted June 10, 2004 Author Share Posted June 10, 2004 Are your boys the favs in the Big 10 this season Greasy? I would be insanely surprised if we were; however, we're definitely going to make some noise and at the least be back in the tourney. That's so awesome that the games at Assembly Hall this year. It's on my b-day too; hopefully I'll be able to get a ticket! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 It usually comes down to a Michigan State vs. Illinois final, but I wouldn't certainly rule out Indiana or Wisconsin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted June 10, 2004 Author Share Posted June 10, 2004 It usually comes down to a Michigan State vs. Illinois final, but I wouldn't certainly rule out Indiana or Wisconsin. You're a wise one, DBAH0! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 You're a wise one, DBAH0! I played Tournament Dreams College B-Ball Trial from .400 Software as Michigan State. I always used to play against Illinois in the Big 10 final, great game that especially with the recruiting aspect of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted June 10, 2004 Author Share Posted June 10, 2004 Just for the hell of it.... BIG TEN CHAMPIONSHIPS SCHOOL/NO. Purdue--21 Indiana--20 Ohio State--17 Illinois--16 Wisconsin--16 Michigan--12 Michigan State--10 Minnesota--9 Iowa--8 Northwestern--2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Northwestern has a Big Ten Championship? They've never been in the tourney how can they have won a Big Ten Championship? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted June 10, 2004 Author Share Posted June 10, 2004 Northwestern has a Big Ten Championship? They've never been in the tourney how can they have won a Big Ten Championship? They're last championship was in 1933; I couldn't tell you about when the one before that happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 I think Wisconsin is gonna be badass next year. I'm scared for when my Illini have to play them. Go Illini! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palehosefan Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 I dunno, losing Devin Harris REALLY hurts them. Brian Butch is a softy also, he has to prove he can bang down low after redshirting his freshman year as a Mickey D's AA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Why do they bother to include Northwestern in this event every year. Last year the Big Ten got it's collective asses handed to them... You'd think they'd want to eliminate the weakest teams so that thet can at least appear to be able to compete with the ACC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Why do they bother to include Northwestern in this event every year. Last year the Big Ten got it's collective asses handed to them... You'd think they'd want to eliminate the weakest teams so that thet can at least appear to be able to compete with the ACC How bout the Big Nine then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Why do they bother to include Northwestern in this event every year. Last year the Big Ten got it's collective asses handed to them... You'd think they'd want to eliminate the weakest teams so that thet can at least appear to be able to compete with the ACC Who beat Iowa twice last year? That's right NORTHWESTERN. And when are Miami and Va. Tech going to be eligible for this? That would make 11 vs. 11, everyone in from each conference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Who beat Iowa twice last year? That's right NORTHWESTERN. And when are Miami and Va. Tech going to be eligible for this? That would make 11 vs. 11, everyone in from each conference. I realized you'd probably reply... I wasn't trying to take a shot at NW. I just think the Big Ten would want to put thier best clubs out there, and recently they haven't done that. Penn St., Minnesota, Ohio State, Northwestern -- These teams wont compete for a Big ten title. Why put them against top competition in the ACC -- as for the Miami, Va Tech thing, I'm not sure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreye Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Virginia! You gotta love the name Branch McCracken Court. When did they do that? Sounds like a spite to Bob Knight to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 The biggest game of the challenge is Wake Forest at Illinois, though MSU/Duke and UNC/Indiana are also good games It's going to be a back court war at Assembly Hall. Take the Mizzou game, times it by 10, and you have Wake Forest @ Illinois. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Damn, with our game at 7 and IU's at 9, i'm gonna have to run home to not miss much of that game. I wouldn't want to miss either of these games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted June 10, 2004 Author Share Posted June 10, 2004 When did they do that? Sounds like a spite to Bob Knight to me. I think it's always been named after him; it just never was noted that much. Knight, Carnesecca deserve to be honored All across America, the latest trend is to recognize coaches for their big-time success by naming the home court after them. It happened to Mike Krzyzewski down at Duke, Jimmy Boeheim up at Syracuse and Lute Olson at Arizona. It's happening to the Wizard of Westwood out at UCLA, John Wooden -- an honor long overdue considering his accomplishments over the years. After 10 national championships, I would have thought that would have happened years ago. At DePaul, before the DePaul-Notre Dame contest on Dec. 14, DePaul's home court at Allstate Arena will be named Ray and Marge Meyer Court to honor the legendary Blue Demons coach and his late wife. That leads me to ask why two other schools haven't honored their former coaches: Bob Knight at Indiana and Lou Carnesecca at St. John's. I realize that Assembly Hall has its court named after another legendary and deserving coach, Branch McCracken. That fact has been underpublicized for years. McCracken coached the Hoosiers to their first two national championships (in 1940 and '53). So here's my thought: Call it the Robert Montgomery Knight Center at Assembly Hall. I can hear some people in Bloomington saying no way, no way to Knight, who currently is the head coach at Texas Tech. But he has done so much for Indiana University, and I'm not just talking about Ws on the hardwood. Consider what Knight has meant to the institution. He raised tons of money for the library and gave the school lots of notoriety and publicity throughout his tenure. Obviously, there was a battle between Knight and former Indiana president Myles Brand (currently the NCAA's executive director). Looking beyond that, it would be a classy move by Indiana administrators to honor Knight at Assembly Hall. Look at his overall record: He graduated his players and won three national championships ('76, '81 and '87). Nobody deserves that type of honor more than the General. Naysayers should forget the little antics and their petty jealousies and do what is right. Knight brought tremendous basketball honor to the Hoosiers. If others are being honored with courts being named for them, then Knight deserves some special treatment as well. As I wrote in my new book, "Living a Dream," the time has come for the people in Indiana to come through. It would be a great move. The Hall of Famer had so many magical moments. The 1976 team was the last unbeaten squad in Division I. The 1981 club, led by Isiah Thomas, captured the national title. The '87 squad, led by sweet-shooting Steve Alford, knocked off Syracuse in a memorable final. Imagine bringing back all the stars who played under Knight! What a moment that would be. Hey Hoosiers, make it happen. I know Knight would probably say he doesn't need something like this to happen. But this is about what's right. He deserves it. At St. John's, I can't understand why Lou Carnesecca hasn't been bestowed that type of honor. I really miss him on the sidelines. We don't have as many characters in the game today, as we did with Carnesecca, my late buddy Jimmy Valvano, the late Al McGuire and others. The St. John's program needs a spark. When I called the game between the Red Storm and Marquette at the Coaches vs. Cancer Classic, I was surprised by the lack of buzz created by the program right now. The school was given 600 tickets to sell and returned more than 100. What happened to the St. John's program? It has had problems recruiting and creating interest. Perhaps a night honoring Carnesecca by renaming the court at Alumni Hall would give the program a boost. It's an honor that Carnesecca truly deserves! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Northwestern = European semi-pro team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Northwestern = European semi-pro team They weren't that bad last year and they are going to get better this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsider2k5 Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 They weren't that bad last year and they are going to get better this year. Mychael Thompson will be a huge add. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 Mychael Thompson will be a huge add. Yeah. They haven't had a big man since Eschmeyer, and they almost made the tournament that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted June 10, 2004 Share Posted June 10, 2004 They weren't that bad last year and they are going to get better this year. Regardless, they are a bunch of Europeans, if they put on different jerseys i would think we were playing a European semi-pro team. Just an observation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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