T R U Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 Yeah I dont see how adding Ortiz and losing a LH Power Bat is going to help us out any... Specially since Ortiz has had one good year and a few decent ones.. We need someone who has a good year damn near every year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 I'd take either of these guys (talking about Contreras or Ortiz), as long as we don't give up a lot. Both of these guys are trying to be dumped (Well, that's what I'm taking out of it, I could be wrong though.). If we don't give up a lot and they eat a lot of the salary, then I'll do it. Not for Jose though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSteve Posted June 12, 2004 Share Posted June 12, 2004 I could see it if we put Uribe at SS, Harris at 2B, and go out and get a top CF, ie Finley. It would make more sense then. I wouldn't be opposed to it. Remember Schoeneweis had been taken out of their rotation and put in the pen, and look at him for us now. If I were the Sox, I would throw in a minor leaguer and try to get Alfredo Amezaga too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mac9001 Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Just to point something out: Jose has: 11 HR's (1st among SS in AL) .883 OPS (2rd among SS in AL) .390 SecA (1st among SS in AL) 23 XBH (3rd among SS in AL) I think he's worth more than Ortiz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Supposedly Ramon Ortiz has requested a trade and the Sox may have offered Jose V for him. Found this on ESPN's Angel boards. Like I said I don't know how true this is though. http://boards.espn.go.com/cgi/mlb/request....b_ana&id=346804 Thats what was reported in the times today. My thinking is if Bill Stoneman turned down this offer, he would be a moron, therefor I don't believe that the Sox made this deal. I think the Angels probably proposed it just to see the reaction. If the Angels gave the Sox Eckstein or Kennedy in return, then that be another story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knightni Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 I doubt that Ozzie or Kenny would allow Jose be traded. It is a team chemistry issue more than anything. The Sox most likely will add without subtracting off of the MLB roster. Just like last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elrockinMT Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Supposedly Ramon Ortiz has requested a trade and the Sox may have offered Jose V for him. Found this on ESPN's Angel boards. Like I said I don't know how true this is though. http://boards.espn.go.com/cgi/mlb/request....b_ana&id=346804 The Sox aren't going to trade Jose Valentin for a 5th starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Socks Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 It would take incredible balls to trade a strater when you are in first place, even though I expect Jose's production to fall off as the season wears on. I don't see why the Angels would make the trade either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Trading Jose Valentin would be moronic right now. We need a Steve Finley type of player in addition to Jose, not instead of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Honest to God, I'd make this deal... ...if Anaheim gave us a good prospect or two and they took Billy Koch. Valentin straight up for Ortiz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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