greasywheels121 Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 It's still highly unlikely that this would ever happen, but Guillen is really thinking aobut it now...... Tough choice, and DH is not an option Konerko or Thomas may sit in NL parks By Dave van Dyck Special to the Tribune White Sox manager Ozzie Guillen has a major decision to make before handing in his lineup card against the Atlanta Braves on Sunday: Does he go for offense or defense for the upcoming series in Florida? If he chooses offense, Paul Konerko will be the third baseman and Frank Thomas the first baseman in the series finale. They are 1-2 on the team in both home runs and RBIs. Because there is no DH, either one of them plays first base against the Marlins or both play at different positions. And Guillen has indicated that Konerko will not play third base in Florida unless he gets an on-the-job refresher course Sunday. While he has not made the final decision, Guillen is keeping with his initial "doubt" that Konerko will play third for the first time in years. This is an important choice because of the amount of offense being lost by benching either one, and it could come back to haunt Guillen. "I don't want to take a chance," he said. "We would have Frank and Konerko at the corners and we're going to play two teams (Florida and Atlanta) who like to bunt a lot." Left unsaid was that neither is a great fielder and neither is very fast, so they could get bunted to death. Who plays at first in Florida will be a tough decision, because each is swinging a hot bat. "Frank played with me for so many years," Guillen said. "He's not a Gold Glove, but he will make the plays." Thomas was at first base Saturday for the first time this season and Konerko was the DH. "I don't mind DHing here and there," Konerko said. "I'd rather play the field. DH is tough, because you're not in the flow of the game." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 That'd be funny if we got bunted to death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 I totally forgot about the no DH thing in NL parks. That's a tough call if I ever heard one. I know Thomas is marginally better offensively but he's a total butcher in the field. I think that you have to go with the hotter hand and go with Thomas though if it came down to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 With Crede's 2 hits in today's game, I think we'll see Konerko sit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 If we are smoking them tomorrow or they are smoking us they may try konerko there for a few innings. Just incase if crede slumps worse than he already is, which would be hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 It would be great to see both PK and Thomas out there. I hope Ozzie does it, because Pauly isn't too bad defensively and Thomas isn't that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaSoxxJim Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Paulie has a handful of games at third under his belt, mostly with the Reds but a couple with us in 2000 as well. The bunted to death notion is a little unsettling though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoxFan1 Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Pk at third = uh-oh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostInBoston Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Couldn' t he play left and Clee play right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Couldn' t he play left and Clee play right? Outfielders have to run, which konerko cannot do unless if takes an oxygen take into left . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Pk at third = uh-oh! Crede is starting to pick it up now and PK doesn't need to be anywhere NEAR the hot corner. Best to sit him if necessary. I hate sitting PK as much as the next guy but I dont see any choice as hot as Thomas has been. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostInBoston Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 I was at a game a few years ago where CLee had to pee and ran off the field in between pitches to go take care of business. Was hilarious.... Perhaps Paulie could do a similar thing with an oxygen tank? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Crede is starting to pick it up now and PK doesn't need to be anywhere NEAR the hot corner. Best to sit him if necessary. I hate sitting PK as much as the next guy but I dont see any choice as hot as Thomas has been. Actually in the last week crede's batting average has gone down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Crede is starting to pick it up now and PK doesn't need to be anywhere NEAR the hot corner. Best to sit him if necessary. I hate sitting PK as much as the next guy but I dont see any choice as hot as Thomas has been. 4-for-26 over the last 7 games isn't picking it up. 2 of those hits have been downright terrible swings. One was a 9th inning HR in a Blowout loss -- Thanks for the help JC. Everyone's expectations for Crede have been lowered. People around here practically wet themselves when he actually makes contact. If Jose Valentin put together a few months like JC has he would have been run out of town already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi-Wan Kenobi Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 If Guillen wants to get an idea of what having both Thomas and Konerko in the field would be like, he can test the idea during tomorrow's game. Crede has two hits on Saturday, but he doesn't look comfortable at the plate right now. Both Frank and Paulie are swinging the bat well, so it makes sense to do whatever is necessary to keep both of them in the lineup. The bunts may just be something the Sox have to live with for a few games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted June 13, 2004 Author Share Posted June 13, 2004 LMAO...This isn't thread worthy, but Carl Everett, who's on the DL...got ejected tonight! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Real tough call for, Ozzie. I think if Maggs was healthy you might just have to sit one of them. But, we're already at a loss with Maggs being out. We can't really afford to be without either Frank Or Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 LMAO...This isn't thread worthy, but Carl Everett, who's on the DL...got ejected tonight! You saw the movie "Friday" right? "How in the HEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLL Did you get fired on yo day off?!?" Same deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Critic Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 I totally forgot about the no DH thing in NL parks. That's a tough call if I ever heard one. I know Thomas is marginally better offensively but he's a total butcher in the field. I think that you have to go with the hotter hand and go with Thomas though if it came down to it. Not true. That's a misconception. Frank has a weak throwing arm, but has soft hands, is decent at scooping throws in the dirt and is more nimble around the bag than he is given credit for. He's not a Gold Glove 1B, but he is also no butcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 If Guillen wants to get an idea of what having both Thomas and Konerko in the field would be like, he can test the idea during tomorrow's game. Crede has two hits on Saturday, but he doesn't look comfortable at the plate right now. Both Frank and Paulie are swinging the bat well, so it makes sense to do whatever is necessary to keep both of them in the lineup. The bunts may just be something the Sox have to live with for a few games. Why would Ozzie risk that move if he didn't have to. I can see it in a blowout game, but if he makes that call today in the starting line up and it costs us the game, you can bet we will lose the division by one game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLAK Posted June 13, 2004 Share Posted June 13, 2004 Don't forget how important a stud pinch hitter is without the DH. Who ever doesn't start is still likely to get a key at bat. I'd go mostly with Konerko so you don't have to save Gload for late inning defense. But Frank would be handy to double switch for with a late lead (you just can't leave him in if there is a possibility of a throw home). It's gonna be fun! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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