Chisoxfn Posted February 26, 2003 Share Posted February 26, 2003 SN Report: Minoso's Hall of Fame Bid Denied By Mark Jacobsen February 26, 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 No Minoso, No One no new members until Minoso gets in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Who wrote this???????? He's a literary genious!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 minoso's lifetime OPS is only 37 points behind magglio's..minoso played in a era when pitching was a lot better..he also was a gold glover while maggs is a little above average defensively...for that era , minoso was very comparable to maggs...plus he also started his career at age 28 not doubt due to the color of his skin...he should have gotten in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 minoso's lifetime OPS is only 37 points behind magglio's..minoso played in a era when pitching was a lot better..he also was a gold glover while maggs is a little above average defensively...for that era , minoso was very comparable to maggs...plus he also started his career at age 28 not doubt due to the color of his skin...he should have gotten in He also went through the burden of being black in a game full of whites and having to be that much better to succeed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 I was there when Minnie came to us in a trade with Cleveland. He was a dandy, and the whole town loved him. It's too bad we didn't get to see him when he was a youngster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Minoso has one major flaw on his resume'. He never played for any team in New York. See Whitey Ford vs. Billy Pierce if you doubt me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IlliniKrush Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 I'm sorry, but put Santo in the Hall already, this coming from a Sox fan. And no, it has nothing to do with his diabetes. He should be in there, period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 I'm sorry, but put Santo in the Hall already, this coming from a Sox fan. And no, it has nothing to do with his diabetes. He should be in there, period. I agree .... Ron Santo is the single most deserving non-HOF'er. See Ron Santo vs. Brooks Robinson. No way Brooksie should be in there, and not Ronnie. No way in hell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cwsox Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 I disagree on Santo. He is not HOF to me. Minoso should be in. And I would have taken Brooks Robinson over Santo anyday. I made a special trip to Comiskey in 1977 to see Brooks' last appearance at Comiskey, he was special enough to make that trip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 We are all entitled to our own opinions, cwsox. And I respect yours. Yet, I see Santo as being superior to Brooks with the bat.... Though Brooks was good. And I see Robinson, as being superior to Santo defensively, though not by much. To me, that's a wash... if one is in, the other should be. Though neither of them hang with Mike Schmidt as far as 3B's go. Brooks did have the World Series exposure that Santo lacks, but day in, day out through the '60's.... I'd have a hard time picking which one I'd want to be my third-baseman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Okgoh Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Anyone old enough to have seen Brooks Robinson should believe he was the best defensive 3rd baseman of all time with the possible exception of Pie Traynor. If you never heard of Pie Traynor, maybe you should find out before you want Minoso with him in the hall of fame. Minoso was very good. Hall of fame?? If skin color qualifies for the hall of fame, maybe we need more than 1 hall of fame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Regarding that picture above Mark Jacobsen's article, I would swear that it is a picture of Dick Allen, not Minoso. Will someone please confirm or deny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 I dunno Jimmy..... gotta ask Jason on that one, he put the picture up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baggio202 Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 Regarding that picture above Mark Jacobsen's article, I would swear that it is a picture of Dick Allen, not Minoso. Will someone please confirm or deny. yes..that is dick allen in the famous "red pin stripes " unis of the early 70's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Fainter Posted February 27, 2003 Share Posted February 27, 2003 I know this is off the subject of this thread, which is Minnie Minoso and the Hall of Fame, but every time I see or hear of Dick Allen, I think of one of my all time favorite jock quotes: on artificial turf: "If a horse can't chew it, I don't want to play on it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted February 28, 2003 Share Posted February 28, 2003 Anyone old enough to have seen Brooks Robinson should believe he was the best defensive 3rd baseman of all time with the possible exception of Pie Traynor. If you never heard of Pie Traynor, maybe you should find out before you want Minoso with him in the hall of fame. Minoso was very good. Hall of fame?? If skin color qualifies for the hall of fame, maybe we need more than 1 hall of fame. As far as I'm concerned, Robinson is the greatest defensive 3B of all time. But, don't sell Santo short on his defensive abilities. He was excellent in his own right. And I mentioned Schmidt as being better than both, I'm talking about overall greatness as a baseball player, not just defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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