NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 According to the Sun Times Saturday is the next 5th starter day, or roulette wheel day as I call it. Who do you guys think it's gonna be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MurcieOne Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Arnie Munoz......... Prolly the best canidate thus far.... gut check for the young south paw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinnesotaSoxFan Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Diaz might get another shot plus WE WILL FACE THE FRIGGIN' EXPOS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 I believe Munoz will be the next one called up... I'd really liked to have seen Rauch again, but due to the unfortunate circumstances, I suppose he's not an option. Heck, I'd even like to see Diaz again. Oh well, time to see what Munoz can do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Grilli. I think it would have been Rauch if he hadn't have screwed up. He's been lights out since he went back down, from what I understand. I think they'd be rushing Munoz just a bit if it was him. But I'm hoping it's that Ben Sheets guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted June 15, 2004 Author Share Posted June 15, 2004 I believe Munoz will be the next one called up... I'd really liked to have seen Rauch again, but due to the unfortunate circumstances, I suppose he's not an option. Heck, I'd even like to see Diaz again. Oh well, time to see what Munoz can do. Diaz?? Whew, I've seen enough of him to last me a long time. May as well give Munoz a shot and hope he gets some backup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DBAHO Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Arnie Munoz. Deserves his chance and his K curveball against Sosa probably sealed the deal. If not, it'll be Jason Grilli. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Diaz?? Whew, I've seen enough of him to last me a long time. May as well give Munoz a shot and hope he gets some backup. I don't think I've seen enough Diaz. It was only two starts. Maybe he just wasn't accustomed to the major leagues yet. Even though I said otherwise when Diaz stunk against Cleveland (out of pure anger I suppose), I really think 1 more start might have been a good idea. Patience, however, is not a virtue on this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted June 15, 2004 Author Share Posted June 15, 2004 I don't think I've seen enough Diaz. It was only two starts. Maybe he just wasn't accustomed to the major leagues yet. Even though I said otherwise when Diaz stunk against Cleveland (out of pure anger I suppose), I really think 1 more start might have been a good idea. Patience, however, is not a virtue on this team. I was all about second chances with him after his 1st go at it but when he got turned into a tee ball stand again in his second go-around I was done supporting him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 I was all about second chances with him after his 1st go at it but when he got turned into a tee ball stand again in his second go-around I was done supporting him. I wish there was a stat that showed decent pitchers getting hammered their first few starts then panning out and pitching decently. I'd be willing to bet there are pitchers out there that had this happen to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 I was all about second chances with him after his 1st go at it but when he got turned into a tee ball stand again in his second go-around I was done supporting him. Still two chances is not very many to know what kinda pitcher he will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted June 15, 2004 Author Share Posted June 15, 2004 I wish there was a stat that showed decent pitchers getting hammered their first few starts then panning out and pitching decently. I'd be willing to bet there are pitchers out there that had this happen to them. I'm not saying Diaz will never ever be a star in the Bigs but it's not doing the team any good when you're running the same guy out there every 5th day to get slammed by the opposition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wise Master Buehrle Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 I'm not saying Diaz will never ever be a star in the Bigs but it's not doing the team any good when you're running the same guy out there every 5th day to get slammed by the opposition. Well, you don't seem too fond of this roulette wheel deal we have going on currently. Which would you rather have? Sticking with one 5th starter (who isn't Danny Wright), who could become accustomed the major league style of pitching. Or Spinning that wheel and seeing if we get a star or another goober. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NUKE_CLEVELAND Posted June 15, 2004 Author Share Posted June 15, 2004 Well, you don't seem too fond of this roulette wheel deal we have going on currently. Which would you rather have? Sticking with one 5th starter (who isn't Danny Wright), who could become accustomed the major league style of pitching. Or Spinning that wheel and seeing if we get a star or another goober. None of the above.......Lets get that trade done and get a real 5th starter in here to do the job right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 I wouldn't mind seeing Diaz again. You can pretty much throw out his 1st start, due to the fact he was pretty much set up to fail. Grilli is another guy I wouldn't mind seeing. And as much as some would disagree. Why not give Rauch another shot? He's pitched well since being sent down. And really, other than 1 inning he wasn't that bad. Sure they hit him hard. Maybe he'll make some adjustments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FUCKREINSDORF Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 I'm hoping it's that Ben Sheets guy. KEEP DREAMING!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 I wouldn't be surprised about Rauch. I heard he had permission to leave the game early from Cooper (to stop by his family on the way to AAA, since he was going to be optioned down there regardless of the game's result). Remember, that was the game that Guillen missed. I'm sure if Guillen had been there, none of this would have happened. My impression was that the whole Rauch-gate was just a miscommunication between Rauch, Cooper, and Kenny Williams, who exploded. It'd be really funny if Rauch came up and was a star. The "he'll never play for the White Sox organization again" quote would be sort of funny to have played at a Cy Young award ceremony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 Grilli. I think it would have been Rauch if he hadn't have screwed up. He's been lights out since he went back down, from what I understand. I think they'd be rushing Munoz just a bit if it was him. But I'm hoping it's that Ben Sheets guy. It was pointed out in the paper yesterday that, believe it or not, Grilli is 2 & 0 against the Expos in his career, having beaten them twice in 2001. Now, whether anyone from those Expos is still around is uncertain. I would hope that the Sox would make their decision based on who is throwing well now, and that looks like Munoz. I just hope we're now on a 3 game losing streak when we head into Canada - we're facing the best pitching we've seen in a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 It was pointed out in the paper yesterday that, believe it or not, Grilli is 2 & 0 against the Expos in his career, having beaten them twice in 2001. Now, whether anyone from those Expos is still around is uncertain. I would hope that the Sox would make their decision based on who is throwing well now, and that looks like Munoz. I just hope we're now on a 3 game losing streak when we head into Canada - we're facing the best pitching we've seen in a while. With the way the Expos have been hitting, whoever we put out there should be able to do a decent job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted June 15, 2004 Share Posted June 15, 2004 From ESPN.com: Barring a deal for another starter, either RHP Jason Grilli or RHP Jon Rauch might get the June 19 start at Montreal, the Chicago Sun-Times reported June 14. Grilli was named International League Pitcher of the Week on June 7, going 1-0 in two starts with a 1.38 ERA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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