fathom Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Seriously, Ozzie Guillen might be the worst manager of pitchers that I have ever seen. He continues to leave batters in way too long. There's a reason that we have like 6 starters who have given up 7 or more earned runsi n a game. Ozzie has his head up his ass way too much when the Sox are in the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 I wish mike jackson had gotten in the game earlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 24, 2004 Author Share Posted June 24, 2004 Even though Jackson sucks, Buehrle was the one that allowed 3 hits to start the inning. Time to release Jackson, and call up Jose Santiago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 he learned from the master of overworking your startes, jeff torborg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Socks Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Ozzie got real lucky early in the season when he continued to leave Koch in and he got away with it a few times. Now he is getting burned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Honda Civic Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Even though Jackson sucks, Buehrle was the one that allowed 3 hits to start the inning. Time to release Jackson, and call up Jose Santiago. Screw that -- Bring on ManHands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 This bullpen would make any manager look like an idiot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fathom Posted June 24, 2004 Author Share Posted June 24, 2004 Exactly, the bullpen is awful. However, Ozzie is playing into the suckitude by bringing in Jackson to face a strong lefty in Broussard. Jackson has never been effective against lefties. KW proves his ingnorance by not addressing this problem, being the talent level of the relievers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rowand44 Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Seriously, Ozzie Guillen might be the worst manager of pitchers that I have ever seen. He continues to leave batters in way too long. There's a reason that we have like 6 starters who have given up 7 or more earned runsi n a game. Ozzie has his head up his ass way too much when the Sox are in the field. I'd rather have a tired mark buehrle in there then Mike Jackson, Cliff Politte, Neal Cotts, everyone else out in the bullpen except for shingo and damaso but you can't use those guys every day and the bullpen has some major issues right now, along with the whole pitching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSGuy406 Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 I'd rather have a tired mark buehrle in there then Mike Jackson, Cliff Politte, Neal Cotts, everyone else out in the bullpen except for shingo and damaso but you can't use those guys every day and the bullpen has some major issues right now, along with the whole pitching staff. Exactly. And had Jackson gotten out of it we'd have a 'Guillen - the Genious' thread. Players gotta perform. A fastball right down the middle of the plate and Broussard said, 'Thank you sir!' and hit it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greg775 Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Wasn't our bullpen considered a strength in the preseason? It shows you how that didn't mean squat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Exactly, the bullpen is awful. However, Ozzie is playing into the suckitude by bringing in Jackson to face a strong lefty in Broussard. Jackson has never been effective against lefties. KW proves his ingnorance by not addressing this problem, being the talent level of the relievers. Did you watch the game? Jackson was not brought in to face Broussard. Broussard was brought in after they called in Jackson. I guess Ozzie could have called in Dravenshannaglefroogle at that point, but would it have really mattered? We have one guy in the bullpen that gets guys consistently out. ONE GUY!!!!!!! Blame this all you want on the manager, but after seeing Buehrle give up 3 straight hits I saw enough of him. We need a lot of pitching on this staff. A 5th starter and 2 or 3 more bullpen guys. Maybe calling up Baj and Maj from the minors is a start. Something has to be done. I definately wouldn't blame it on Ozzie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 I wish mike jackson had gotten in the game earlier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Maybe calling up Baj and Maj from the minors is a start I see a sitcom in the future for those two Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Jeff Bajenaru AA W 1 L 0 ERA 1.01 G 26 CG 0 SHO 0 SV 10 IP 26.2 H 16 R 6 ER 3 HR 2 BB 7 SO 43 Gary Majewski AAA W 1 L 2 ERA 2.9 G 29 CG 0 SHO 0 SV 12 IP 31 H 19 R 11 ER 10 HR 1 BB 13 SO 31 CALL THEM UP NOW!!!!! Send down Mike Jackson and Darrensfroogleshmeagleheimershmidt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Lopez Ghost (old) Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Did you watch the game? Jackson was not brought in to face Broussard. Broussard was brought in after they called in Jackson. I guess Ozzie could have called in Dravenshannaglefroogle at that point, Well, no. The pitcher you bring in must face one batter, so Jackson had to pitch to Broussard. Not for long, mind you, but he had to pitch to Broussard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWSHarris1 Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 ah hes doin fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southsideirish Posted June 24, 2004 Share Posted June 24, 2004 Well, no. The pitcher you bring in must face one batter, so Jackson had to pitch to Broussard. Not for long, mind you, but he had to pitch to Broussard. I never knew that to be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 ah hes doin fine No hes not. His ERA is f***ing terrible(about 5.50), his WHIP is in Koch-land(1.40 or so), and he is allowing a BAA of .291. That's f***ing horrible. It's time for Mike Jackson to go on the 60-day DL for a sore shoulder(but in reality for sucking major ass) SSI...the pitcher does have to face one batter or record an out, and that is an and/or situation. If he comes into the game in the bottom of the 8th with 2 outs and a runner on 1B, and he picks off the guy on 1B to end the inning, he does not have to face the hitter. However, I do believe that if it does not end the inning, he does have to face atleast one batter. That's the only situation where a pitcher can come in and not have to face the batter...or atleast the only one I can think of off the top of my head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danman31 Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 Manuel was awful with his pitchers and it is Ozzie's first year as a manager. He still has to get used to his pitchers. Besides, at least he is getting the team going everyday, unlike last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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