Whitewashed in '05 Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 "If I'd asked you who was second in the AL in OPS right now, would you have come up with Big Frank? A couple off years and the Big Hurt fell off our radars. Put him back on. He's got 58 walks right now, which, if you're not Barry Bonds, is really good. He's also slugging at a .615 clip and pasting doubles and dingers all over the yard. It's just like the old days. " Finally The Hurt gets some recognition on his great season, he should be in the AS game as he should have last year at home but it didn't work out that way as Everett took his spot. I will vote my butt off for him because he deserves to be in it. Good luck to him and hopefully he goes on a tear that will gaurentee him a spot in the game and will really show he is back, not only that but wouldn't it be good if our #4 hitter's avg is .320 once Maggs gets back? Heres the link: http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=neel/040624 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 Awesome! Frank is really tearing it up this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 lets hope he starts re-tearing it up against the cubs this weekend! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiSox_Sonix Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 ya Thomas wasnt his best this past series. Lets hope he busts out in a big way vs the Cubs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
witesoxfan Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 I almost hate to say this...but due to Thomas not getting the recognition he has deserved for some time now... Frank Thomas = Most Underrated Player in the League People have forgotten how good he actually is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greasywheels121 Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 Frank Thomas = Most Underrated Player in the League It's hard to fathom that being true, but it really is. I love seeing Thomas getting some due respect here and there. It's well-deserved at the moment; he has one of the better all-around offensive numbers in the league. People also aren't talking about him, because he's not talking or being "the problem" in the clubhouse. Franklin!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuskyCaucasian Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 He should be the starting First baseman in the AL in the All-Star Game. He wont (damn NY fans) but he will make the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 What's funny is that he was #1 in OPS less that a week ago. I'd say that he's easily the most underrated hitter in the league right now. Easily. He has a brutal 0-10 streak going right now, though, and there's no way that he's going to right himslef against Prior. He very well may be under .280 by the time the game ends tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reddy Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 not the league, the game. He's definitely the most underrated in the game period. And he's having a better season than any other 1B or DH in the league, of course he should start (except for Ortiz he's doing amazing... maybe he should start...) But Frank definitely doesnt deserve ANOTHER snub Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mousetom78 Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 People forgot that he was #2 in AL with 42 HRs last year. Thats far from bad in my book. This year, he is tearing it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordan4life_2007 Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 I almost hate to say this...but due to Thomas not getting the recognition he has deserved for some time now... Frank Thomas = Most Underrated Player in the League People have forgotten how good he actually is. I don't know if he's underrated. But he did fall off a little bit for a couple years. But last year and especially this year he's proven that he's still one of the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keninem Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 He may have had a bad series against the Tribe, but I can count at least twice where he flied out DEEP to the warning track and thought he got all of it..he's still hitting the ball, just not getting the breaks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 He should be the starting First baseman in the AL in the All-Star Game. He wont (damn NY fans) but he will make the team. I think Franks is great, but he is a DH, not a 1st baseman, and would argue if a DH started a fielding position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keninem Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 I think Franks is great, but he is a DH, not a 1st baseman, and would argue if a DH started a fielding position. In his career, Frank has played 972 games at 1B with 3485 AB's, getting a .337 avg..and he's played 924 games as a DH with 3319 AB's, getting a .281 avg..he's done his time as a 1B and is listed as a DH/1B in the same way that Harris is a CF/2B and Juan is a 2B/SS. It's entirely possible that Frank could represent as a 1B in the ASG. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Gleason Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 Isn't Frank really a case of he hurt himself in a way? He set the bar so damn high for himself, that when he wasn't performing at his peak performance, people were saying he was washed up. But it was never like he sucked, he was always a good - very good player, he just wasn't as insanely great as he was early on. He never fell into a Griffey like sllump, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 In his career, Frank has played 972 games at 1B with 3485 AB's, getting a .337 avg..and he's played 924 games as a DH with 3319 AB's, getting a .281 avg..he's done his time as a 1B and is listed as a DH/1B in the same way that Harris is a CF/2B and Juan is a 2B/SS. It's entirely possible that Frank could represent as a 1B in the ASG. I thought the ASG was judged by this current season, not career. Sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keninem Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 I thought the ASG was judged by this current season, not career. Sorry. He is a first baseman. He's played more games at first than at DH in his career, and he has played some games at first this season, even. Your arguement about being judged by the season and not the career is moot, however. Exhibit A: Nomar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Confederate_48 Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 Will we be seeing Frank in the HR Derby ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 He is a first baseman. He's played more games at first than at DH in his career, and he has played some games at first this season, even. Your arguement about being judged by the season and not the career is moot, however. Exhibit A: Nomar. Interesting that the White Sox roster just lists him as a DH. I guess that's why I am confused. I thought that 10 games or so a year for the past 4 years pretty much took him out of the 1st base consideration. Chisox.com link So A-Rod, for the next few seasons, could still be voted SS since that is where be played most of the games in his career? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keninem Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 Interesting that the White Sox roster just lists him as a DH. I guess that's why I am confused. I thought that 10 games or so a year for the past 4 years pretty much took him out of the 1st base consideration. Chisox.com link So A-Rod, for the next few seasons, could still be voted SS since that is where be played most of the games in his career? If he plays the minimum number of games as a SS in the year he gets voted, why not? Thomas is listed as a DH on that website, yes..but Burke is listed as a catcher, and I swear I saw him play outfield the other day. Just pointing out that those things aren't set in stone as the be all end all of what positions people play. Since there is no voting allowed for the DH in the ASG, I see no reason why DH's shouldn't be able to be voted under their "other" position, if they have one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoda Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 I want to see Big Frank killing the Cubs this weekend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 Frank the Tank! Frank the Tank! Frank the Tank! Frank the Tank! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Texsox Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 If he plays the minimum number of games as a SS in the year he gets voted, why not? Thomas is listed as a DH on that website, yes..but Burke is listed as a catcher, and I swear I saw him play outfield the other day. Just pointing out that those things aren't set in stone as the be all end all of what positions people play. Since there is no voting allowed for the DH in the ASG, I see no reason why DH's shouldn't be able to be voted under their "other" position, if they have one. I cannot see selecting a guy who plays a position 4 or 5 times that season over a guy who plays the position every day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YASNY Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 I cannot see selecting a guy who plays a position 4 or 5 times that season over a guy who plays the position every day. Why not? A guy who was DH all year, won the 1B Gold Glove a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandoFan Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 I thought the ASG was judged by this current season, not career. Sorry. Yes, and Frank beats everybody at 1B THIS year. And it's only "ostensibly" about pefromance-relative-to-peers in the first 3 months of a given season. In reality it's named the All-Star Game, not the All-PlayerWhosHadTheBestFirstHalf Game. The fact that voting is left up to the lemming fans only confirms it. Popularity is at least equal in weight to actual merit - and sometimes exceeds it when it comes to ASG. Garciappara and Tejada are a bigger "stars" than Carlos Guillen and Michael Young. People want them there whether it's fair or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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