redandwhite Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 The Score Radio in Chicago is reporting that the White Sox are close to completing a deal that would send Russ Ortiz to the White Sox, and prospects to Atlanta. Stay Posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 That would rock...but I will believe it when it is completed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dasox24 Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 This is a great deal if Ortiz can return to the year when he finished like 2nd or 3rd in cy young voting(it was either last year or 2 years ago). But, it's not like he's been bad this year, so I'm happy no matter what. Also, I'd like to see who we gave up to make this trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CubsSuck1 Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 Very nice Kenny. Hopefully one of more moves to come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 PLEASE LET THIS BE TRUE! I think Ortiz would be plenty fine for me. The only problem with him is the amount of walks he gives up. He was a 21 (?) game winner last year so that aint bad by any stretch of the imagination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash Tizzle Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 Wait. Any word on the prospects? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshPR Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 The Score Radio in Chicago is reporting that the White Sox are close to completing a deal that would send Russ Ortiz to the White Sox, and prospects to Atlanta. Stay Posted. Ortiz??? Blah!!!! :puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted June 25, 2004 Author Share Posted June 25, 2004 Wait. Any word on the prospects? The guy I talked to said he heard Rauch's name upon some other players he didnt know, but I can't see Rauch moving especially with Shoney on the DL now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatchetman Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 Is this the last year on Ortiz' deal? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wedge Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 so is Ortiz the Ace or the stopgap? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 "They just said this deal is not going to happen." - from chisox.com board Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerhead johnson Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 so is Ortiz the Ace or the stopgap? Ortiz is slightly worse than Freddy Garcia. A #2 at best, which works out for the Sox. Jon Boy will get to man the 4th spot now, which is where he belongs. And then, perhaps, we'll get Randy Johnson??? Do it now, KW! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitesoxin' Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 Current Season Stats - Games through Thursday Jun. 24, 2004 Pitching G GS W L SV IP H R ER BB K CG SHO ERA WHIP 15 15 6 6 0 88.1 84 44 41 47 73 1 0 4.18 1.48 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 "They just said this deal is not going to happen." - from chisox.com board Who said that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hi8is Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 according to them,Levine said no deal goin down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EvilJester99 Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 You have to remember Russ Ortiz's #'s are down this year but also mostly do to Atlanta sucking ass this year. I think Ortiz would be huge if they get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted June 25, 2004 Author Share Posted June 25, 2004 according to them,Levine said no deal goin down them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Queen Prawn Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 them? chisox.com board... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redandwhite Posted June 25, 2004 Author Share Posted June 25, 2004 chisox.com board... oh okay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cali Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 With Schoe going down a trigger is going to have to be pulled soon, and I mean soon, like before this game is over or right after. Diaz vs. Cubs? Please no... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heads22 Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 I wouldn't be surprised if an OF is traded with our over abundance... I'd probably give up an OF and either a middle infielder or a pitcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1549 Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 Ortiz is one of the more overrated pitchers in the game. Even when he pitches great he is often spent after 7 innings because of the ridiculous amount of balls he throws. He is slightly overweight, he leaves his pitches too high (when he throws them for strikes), if he ever loses a little bit of velocity, he is f***ED. He also averages 4-5 bb's a game. I don't like the thought of him pitching in a small park like the cell either. His ERA is 5.54 when he isn't playing in spacious Turner Field. Luckily we don't need Cy Young, so as long as we don't trade Reed, Borchard, Sweeney, or Honel I don't mind this trade. Otherwise it is a risky trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bo_chi_sox Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 even though bruce levine said it was not happening is he always right??? Anyone else remember him being wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 The Score Radio in Chicago is reporting that the White Sox are close to completing a deal that would send Russ Ortiz to the White Sox, and prospects to Atlanta. Stay Posted. I like Ortiz. He throws a lot of pitches and sometimes fails to go deep into games, but he's a good pitcher. I wonder what the Braves would be getting. I hope the Sox could somehow do the deal without giving up a top prospect, however, you have to give something to get something. Anyone know what Ortiz's contract is? Also, you'd have to think Rauch helped his trade value with yesterdays outing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chisoxfn Posted June 25, 2004 Share Posted June 25, 2004 Ortiz is one of the more overrated pitchers in the game. Even when he pitches great he is often spent after 7 innings because of the ridiculous amount of balls he throws. He is slightly overweight, he leaves his pitches too high (when he throws them for strikes), if he ever loses a little bit of velocity, he is f***ED. He also averages 4-5 bb's a game. I don't like the thought of him pitching in a small park like the cell either. His ERA is 5.54 when he isn't playing in spacious Turner Field. Luckily we don't need Cy Young, so as long as we don't trade Reed, Borchard, Sweeney, or Honel I don't mind this trade. Otherwise it is a risky trade. Isn't turner field a decent hitters park. Maybe I'm wrong, I know its not a small park, but I always though the stadium had pretty high homerun numbers. Well, its not as small as the Cell, but its not Safeco either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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